"Remember that Nintendo 3DS can also play all Nintendo DS Pokemon games. The Nintendo DS family also has a massive installed base of more than 51 million systems in the United States alone, and we are keen on continuing to deliver new experiences to this audience." - Nintendo statement
There's definitely more of a chance for bigger sales on the DS at this point. There will definitely be a Pokemon title for the 3DS, but we just aren't at that point yet.
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There's definitely more of a chance for bigger sales on the DS at this point. There will definitely be a Pokemon title for the 3DS, but we just aren't at that point yet.
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Exactly. I don't know how this was surprising to so many people.
Also, for once, Nintendo is sticking to their "third pillar" thing they intended a generation ago.
Not sure why fans are mad, really, other than wanting 3D Pokemon, but those fans would've been disappointed anyway. Pokemon Gray would've been 2D, and the same game as Black & White, resulting in more rage. And probably would've been on DS as well. If it was on 3DS, it wouldn't have been full 3D pokemon battles.
Lots of people had unrealistic expectations of what the next game would've been and they couldn't believe their wild dreams didn't come true.
I feel like very few people had realistic thoughts on what the next game would be.
When they said a huge reveal, I expected Pokemon Gray, retreading Black/White, one new form, DS game with DSi/3DS features (probably just the video chat stuff; Not sure what 3DS enhancements are possible) and updates.
What was announced was better than my expectations in every way and changed up the formula of "lol, here's the same game a 3rd time".
Would a 3DS game be amazing? Yeah. But I don't expect a true Pokemon 3DS sequel until 6th generation. Or Ruby/Sapphire remakes.
I still don't really get it.... this would be like Sony putting Uncharted on PS2.
Sure the install base is there, but if you put it on the new console you sell games AND consoles..... which will sell more FUTURE games.
I just hope something big is headed to the 3DS and this is merely a bone thrown our way in the meantime.
Guess we wait till generation 6 then...
Nintendo left out one small detail - While the 3DS can play all DS Pokemon games, visually it doesn't play them all well.
That's why I wanted a Grey, and for it to be on the 3DS. Don't get me wrong, overall I very much prefer a sequel over Grey, but I seriously held off on getting Black because I thought that Grey would be a 3DS game and would therefore work so much better for my 3DS.
If only I could have known all of this in the past. Then I would have bought Pokemon Black instead of Ocarina of Time 3D. Nintendo literally threw a wrench in everything, because it would have been really nice if I hadn't wasted that money on OOT3D.
Still, I don't like this decision. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell that this would really would have helped sell 3DS systems a great deal, and the 3DS will have been out for a year and three months by the time they are released in Japan. The DS went on for way too long as it was. We need support for the 3DS, because it is the successor to the DS and the DS is officially outdated.
But hey, if they'd rather keep on catering to owners of an outdated system than promoting the purchasing of their new console that they should be supporting, that's their problem in the end.
People really need to stop with the whole "it's not a 3DS game" This Pokemon game and the other one were obviously have been in development for a while and thus them being DS games. They are working on a 3DS game so people just need to be patient. -_-
They've probably been working on a 3DS game at the same time. They have at least two different teams, which is how they were able to release Platinum in 08, HG/SS in 09 and B/W in 2010.
Yes Nintendo I know that but it looks blury on my 3DS.
Waste of time for short term profits in my opinion. -_-
Some of that audience has moved on like I have.
Why not simply stop shipping DS units in the two to three months before it releases thus causing anyone who wouldve bought a ds for it will buy a 3ds
@kernal It does make sense, but if these games were released for 3DS, it would spike hardware sales quite a lot. Problem is that the other stakeholders in the franchise apart from Nintendo wouldn't benefit from this at all. They most likely cockblocked Nintendo from putting it on the 3DS.
@Mirr0rR3flection My Black looks perfectly fine on my 3DS...
one thing about playing ds games on 3ds is it cuts off part of the screen that's sorta annoying.
Here's the problem Nintendo. You're basically telling the Pokémon fans without a 3DS to not get one. They're not going to buy a 3DS to play a DS game.
What a cop out, many are putting off buying a 3DS until a mainline game is on it, which might not be in the west until 2014, and the 3DS could have lost a lot of 3rd party support by then...
People who are pissed over it being DS only clearly know nothing about business sense and should just stop talking now.
@EVIL-C if it was on the 3ds it would move systems which is something that nintendo needs and wants. This is the Pokemon company's decision
Well, it's coming out by the end of the year no matter how you look at it, so perhaps they want to emphasize their other in-house 3DS titles? Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, maybe? I can see LM2 being released in October.
I'm sure once a full 3DS installment gets released it's going to be a big deal, much like the months leading up to the release of B/W.
I think it would be too obvious to say, but making the Pokedex 3D with AR was somewhat like a test for next games.
Give them time, be grateful that they are making a new game at least.
@CrashMan
Considering the fact the game was randomly announced only 4 months before release and it's going to be localized in only 4 more, I feel like people are making a bigger deal out of this than they need to. I don't think this is going to be a huge game/huge release. They're reusing the same engine and it's only a year and a half after the first Black & White that we're getting a new story-game.
Also, Capcom kept making MEGA MAN games on NES when SNES was already out. And Persona 4 and a few other SMT titles from Atlus came out on PS2 instead of PS3, so it's not that weird. Those were big titles released on last gen systems.
Granted, Atlus and Capcom didn't create the PS2/3 or S/NES.
@link29
Why do people keep suggesting this? What does Pokemon have to do with 3rd parties supporting the 3DS?
Mario and Zelda (and Smash Bros.) is what people buy consoles for. The only people who buy a console FOR a Pokemon game are *huge* Pokemon fans. The ones who buy BOTH versions even though they are only supposed to buy one.
Pokemon may have a humongous fanbase, but not all of that fanbase is holding out on a 3DS for a new mainline Pokemon game.
In fact, the people who are into Pokemon that much would have already bought a 3DS for Rumble Blast, the Pokedex 3D and the fact that Pokemon would inevitably be coming anyway. They may not be real Pokemon games, but if you're going to drop $210 or $250 (3DS+game or games) on Pokemon, then you'd have already done so.
@Sir Tobbii
But that's only a problem for Nintendo. And since they're going to be making money regardless, it effectively is not a problem. They're still making money.
@Radiant
That's really your own fault for thinking that a Gray was going to be a 3DS game right there.
I don't know what got into people's heads to make them think that.
Pokemon Crystal? That's the best I got, but even then, I feel like that was only because lots of people owned a Gameboy Color at that point.
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@Storm101
@led-naruto
This. People are acting like this is the next generation and we're in for a long haul and staying on the DS.
The 3DS is only a year old, barely, and everyone's like "WHAT? SUPPORTING THE DS STILL?". We got a few GBA games after DS came out already, so I don't know why this is surprising. Especially in regards to Pokemon, which caters to their past fans more than anything.
I feel like Pokemon fans don't grasp that they are probably working on a legit 3DS Pokemon game as we speak, but they need to make and plan the whole generation around the 3DS and Wii U.
Black 2 and White 2 are just something to hold us over and something better than just handing us a quick re-release of the same thing with a few new tricks.
@Mirr0rR3flection
Not sure what your point is. Regardless of what Black and White looks like on the 3DS, they were developed for the DS and came out in Japan well before the 3DS.
These games were developed while 3DS was out. We already know that some DS games are "DSi-enhanced" (as in, they support the camera), so it's entirely possible that these could be built to support the 3DS. I don't know why anyone hasn't considered that.
Just like how some Gameboy games (like Gold/Silver) were developed to work on old Gameboy, but could be played in full color on the Gameboy Color, it's possible Black 2 and White 2 were developed with the 3DS in mind and actually look fine on the 3DS. It'd be cool if it supported shoddy 3D too, but I doubt it.
And "moving on" means nothing. If Gray came out and was on 3DS, it would still look like Black and White, it would just look a little less 'blurry'. So what difference does this honestly make?
@Zeldana
That's another thing. People are so pissed about a pair of DS games (that they can still play, but boohoo, my unrealistic dreams were crushed about having a true 3D pogeymanz) that they forget Nintendo has a crapton of other 3DS games still on the way. Plus we have E3 coming up. We don't know what's coming from that, and we don't know what other 3rd party titles are coming (and I mean, we have a lot of good ones now still).
Black 2/White 2 aren't out until October/November at the earliest outside of Japan, and at the end of the day, the only reason Japan is releasing them June (or at all really) is to tie in with the Kyurem/Keldeo film. They release the movie, release some quickly made direct sequels on the same engine (Hello Mario Galaxy 2) and they sell crazy because everyone who goes to see the movie can buy the games.
NoA/NoE really have no reason to release them, in that sense, as the movies are not some huge annual event here. They have a DVD release and recently, limited releases in some theaters for a day or two. We're only getting them because of how well Black/White sold. Japan's getting them because of the movie, though.
I'm okay with it being on the DS, but it kind of reinforces the idea that Game Freak is extremely lo-fi lol.
By the logic that the ds has a larger install base, when would it ever be a smart move to move pokemon to the 3ds? I understand where they are coming from, I really do (gamefreak is a business after all), but the 3ds isn't capable of proving itself on it's own.
For the 3ds to get big, it need good games. Pokemon is a good game, but they are waiting for the 3ds to get big. It just rubs me the wrong way seeing gamefreak play no part in developing the environment for their future titles and will instead release rehashed games on old hardware for a quick buck until that environment magically develops on it's own.
If that environment isn't up to snuff a year or two after black and white 2, will they release black and white 3 or grey on the ds again? that's where I'm going with this.
Given that it's the same generation and that pokemon RTS thing is on the DS platform, I just cannot agree with not doing this on 3DS and driving the install base
I thought black and white coming out literally WEEKS before the 3DS launched was a bad move then, and it is now too
I really don't get why everyone thinks the 3DS is doomed without Pokemon. Were not even at E3 yet, and Animal Crossing and Luigis Mansion will both move major numbers most likely, not to mention Kid Icarus and Paper Mario.
Message: No need to buy a 3DS.
@Nintendude92
But how is this affecting you in any way?
I don't understand why this is bothering people.
Also, why would being the same generation mean it should be on 3DS?
Or are you upset that we're still in Generation 5? After only a YEAR.
Pokemon generations last 3-4 years, so I hope you're cool with seeing Black & White sequels, spin-offs and side games for another 2-3 years.
I honestly hope you weren't expecting gen 6 to start so abruptly after we just went from 493 to 649.
And I don't know what the RTS game has to do with anything. It's a spin-off crossover that means nothing outside of Japan and will never do as well outside of it and I would be surprised if it makes it out to North America. That's not a system seller either, so I don't see how it would've made a difference if that was on 3DS or not.
@tellis429
Pokemon isn't the only good game that could come to 3DS. It doesn't need Pokemon in order to get 3rd parties. There are other games out now and coming soon that are enough. Not to mention, we know a 3DS Zelda and Pokemon will come down the line. It's inevitable. They aren't going to stick to DS forever. Stop acting like 3DS has been around longer than it has and Nintendo's been pumping DS games out.
The first mainline DS Pokemon game wasn't until late 2006 (Japan), a good two years after the DS came out. So where's the fire?
Also, rehashed games? We don't even know what these games are. They released Rumble Blast on 3DS, and the Pokedex app. Obviously they're doing things on the 3DS. They just haven't made a main game for it yet. God forbid.
By that logic there is no point in ever making a new console. Just support Wii and DS forever.
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