This data is supposedly relevant to the revision 4 dev kit / SDK 2...
- several features introduced in the E3 2011 presentation video were not available to the developers
- some of them are linked to the DRC camera (facial recognition, ability to record movies)
- these functions are documented and planned, but weren't implemented at the time
- possibility to track your head/eyes (to change what happens in the game depending on it for example)
- capture footage of you and insert it into a title
- taking a video and storing it in the system
- video calls option
- all these (and possibly others) weren’t accessible to third-parties developers until at least February of this year
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- several features introduced in the E3 2011 presentation video were not available to the developers
- some of them are linked to the DRC camera (facial recognition, ability to record movies)
- these functions are documented and planned, but weren't implemented at the time
- possibility to track your head/eyes (to change what happens in the game depending on it for example)
- capture footage of you and insert it into a title
- taking a video and storing it in the system
- video calls option
- all these (and possibly others) weren’t accessible to third-parties developers until at least February of this year
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Is this information hard to believe anyway? Most of this user's rumors are from things that are already known or expected. I dont see why we shouldnt believe this any more than if we had figured out by ourselves.
I still hope this guy is legit, because he is the only "source" in that topic that is never disappointed and even excited by the system's specs
In theory with head tracking, couldn't the WiiU controller turn your bounding box for you? Instead of pointing left or right with your gun, you can keep your gun forward while you look left and right with your eyes/head?
@Star Luigi You pretty much implied it.
Uh no, that's just what you git from it. All I said was "without a good camera, this is bleh", as in, unless it has a good camera, these possible features are going to be more frustrating to get working than they are cool to use.
@Star Luigi Well at least gtt said it. "they will barely work either, and forget about working at all in anything less than perfect light." Yeah, if the cameras aren't that good it won't work that well, but if this rumor is true then the cameras have to be pretty good.
One would assume that, but this IS Nintendo...-sigh-
/pessimism
They all sound dope to me. I can see the video call feature being used in some clever ways i.e. something similar to Star Fox 64 3D where the player can see the other players face while playing online multiplayer. An awesome possibility with the facial recognition feature would be being able to log into your Wii U account by facial recognition alone(on your own console only). Now that would be dope. Do it Nintendo.
P.S.
Both of those features wouldn't need fancy shmancy cameras either
@Star Luigi being a pessimist isn't good for your health.
@LegendofSantiago
He wont suffer disappointment
when it turns out to be truethough@LegendofSantiago
I'm not really pessimistic, but Nintendo's track record with cameras doesn't leave me with much hope that they'll improve it much. =/
@Star Luigi do track records really mean much? Sony went from making the weakest consoles to the most powerful this gen, the opposite us true for nintendo. Also, another analogy or comparison of sorts, people expected a great camera from the vita and its just as bad as the 3ds's. The camera won't be amazing, but still good
@Hawk
hehe, so pessimistic. If the rumours are negative, of course people are going to be upset and at least hope that it's not true, and to be fair some of the wording was a little bit funny in some of those. Likewise if the rumours are positive of course people will get excited about it. It's not just Gonintendo reader rules, it's internet rules, and quite frankly there's not too much wrong with it.
You seemed to have this "everyone else here is a blind fanboy and I'm a much better, open minded gamer" attitude and just defend almost absolutely anything negative said about nintendo, it does not make you cool.
it's just facts. The 3ds and dsi cameras are terrible .3MP affaris. if you want to do face recognition from a few feet away, you need a much better resolution. same with eye tracking (unless they are doing it without using contrast lock and thus,with lasers or something, and would require the eyes to usually be bathed in IR light)
So I simply doubt that nintendo is going to spring for 2-5 MP cameras for the wiipad.
Not exactly. But these rumors help to explain the context of those précis rumors -- that the unnamed developers had older, less powerful dev kits.
Mike from Morgantown
I will be one happy cynic if Nintendo really goes balls out like this with Wii U's feature set.
THere will be no final dev kit from nintendo with all features until after the console ships. not everybody is using the same dev kits the lesser dev studios are using old ones because nintendo don't care they give the newist ones on;y to top studios while supplys last. some noob studios that make shovel ware only have early dev kits that give them basic code functions for the machine.
this one is OLD like way old there have been at least 3 more DEV kit software updates since feb 2012.
the newer Dev kits have even more features and you wont see 80% of the features in launch games anyway not enough time only studios that get the kits the fastest and gets stuff done quick have a chance of using any of the non basic features at launch.
so reading the responses here.. i notice two different camps... it really is like reading responses on a political site..
gonintendo haters: "poop poop crap doomed crap poop!"
gonintendo lovers: "rainbows sunshine rainbows happines!"
since im definitely a fan of happiness and optimism.. and really, who hates sunshine and rainbows? im going to say, nintendo! i love you, you beautiful bastard!
oh.. and the rumors are cool too!
I've been following the wii u speculation over at neogaf, someone suggested that this could be used to improve the games graphics. It's been said that if the Wii U is rendering graphics on both the screen and the controller, then there will have to be sacrifices made to do that(lower resolution, lower frame rate etc.) but with the facial recognition and eye tracking, the controller will know when you are looking at it so when you are looking at the tv screen, the controller will display a static image or something similar freeing up resources to render what is on the tv screen. Then when you look at the controller, it knows you are looking at it so it lowers the quality of what is on screen so that the controller screen can use more of the resources.
Actually this eye detection technology would be the definitive answer to camera control on first person games imagine turning the game view just moving your eyes in metroid prime 4 (hopefully). Or scanning a door holding the wiiu controller in front of your eyes and pointing to the tv screen, and the two screens showing you the same door but on the tablet you see an x ray version in real time of the picture on the tv screen, so you move your eyes and the picture on the tablet moves and zoom in and out, then you find the secret spot, but to unlock the door you need to solve some kind of puzzle, so, the picture locks on the tablet and then you put the controller down and solve the puzzle using the touch screen and the sensors. You unlock the door and then you keep moving samus with the left stick while you look with your eyes for new thing to scan. ( i'll guess you have to put the conteoller in an angle in wich it can see your face, that could be a problem)
Remember, the 3DS does have facial recognition! Yeah, it makes a Mii from a photo of your face. :O
But yeah, the other rumors are really cool even if some (eye tracking) is less likely. The "eye tracker" could mean it tracks which screen you're looking at... Remember, Nintendo are the kings at doing wonders with almost nothing, so subtle "hacks" like this could very well be possible.
shhhhh! nothing positive, dang you!
The thing is, IdeaMan is NeoGAF's most trusted source. He's reported some plausible-but-modest information from time to time from unnamed 3rd parties as well, even stating that 50% more power and 1.5GB of RAM was as powerful as the system was going to get but still being on par.
Avid GAFers flipped their gourds over the "weaker than current gen" reports too, so it's not just a GoNintendo "fault."
Confirmed means "There is a link and a report proving this." not "A bunch of my peers on a forum or comments section of Kotaku strongly asserted this in a convincing manner and I believe them more than the poopyhead news."
I'm all for disproving those reports, but simply invalidating them by saying "Sony and Microsoft probably said it!" doesn't hold much water over a website like
KotakuWIRED, Game Watch, Jeuxvideo, Destructoid or 1UP CONFIRMING this.At best we can always say that IdeaMan is another Round Cactus or that guy that kept saying "Believe" about the Nintendo REVOLUTION AND those developers had the real deal but we should still expect a massive improvement over the Wii in the end.
That is unless E3 2012 says different.
With the rumour mentioning eye tracking/head tracking, I'm calling nonsense straight away. Been trying to argue this point on another forum for the last couple of days due to actually knowing about the tech involved in eye and head tracking rather than being some supposed dev who is most likely blue sky thinking at best about how he could use the standard cameras on the pad.
There are various reasons why it doesn't make sense and why it won't work. Firstly, there's the cost. Cheapest eye tracker available was made from off the shelf components, as well as licensing specialised software, and cost $350. That may be a bit lower now, as it was a couple of years ago, but that there shows from a manufacturing point of view that Nintendo wouldn't bother putting the tech into the controller.
The other big thing is that everytime you went to play a game which used the tech, it'd need calibrating and re-calibrated constantly throughout play. And it's not like WMP where you just point it at the screen. You have to calibrate with your eyes like you would calibrate a touch screen, except several times. And it doesn't always work. Take into consideration also that everyone holds a controller differently and in a variety of different locations with varying levels of light and it's just not feasible.
I could be wrong but if Nintendo had come up with a super cheap way to do eye tracking, I'd know about it/have been using it at my university by now. At most, it's likely developers will try to code into their software this feature but as the cameras won't have the specialised software to check eye fixations/gaze- and head direction built into the controller, it's not going to work well and there'll be quite a delay even if it does manage to work.
This is getting me pretty interested. Also, after a Nintendo Direct like this one, you know for a fact E3 is going to be absolutely amazing.
@Ganepark32
You could have decided to comment my first post about facial recoginition and the changes we can hope and imagine in games like Mario, Zelda and Metroid and even further in your life and the way we use the web. It would have been great!
But you've decided to comment the second one (the one with the lol at the end). Well, well, i don't know the web sites you're talking about, sorry mate! And confirmed means proven fake because they could not answer some questions in private... Try harder next time!
Are you shure you really need to talk about that instead of facial recognition?
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