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GoNintendo 'End of Day' thought - Do you have the audio/video chops for Wii U?

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What an amazing end to the night it was. Getting recognition from Nintendo on my recent video work is way more than I could have asked for. I'm going to bed quite high on life tonight! Again, a HUGE thanks to you guys for making things like this possible. I'll see you in a few, short hours!

Guys, I don't know if you know this...but we're just a tad over a month away from the launch of the Wii U! I can't believe we're coming up on the launch, especially after years of teasing, speculation, reveals and questions. Soon enough, this long wait will be behind us!

While we wait for the system to actually hit the streets, it's best to use this time to prepare our living room setups. We're going to have to make room for the Wii U next to/above/under our TVs. For some, that could take a lot or shifting of space! It also means making sure you have the right cables and inputs to handle Wii U's options.

Nintendo took longer than most to enter the HD generation. HD TVs weren't all that widespread when the Wii came out, but now most homes have at least one HD-ready TV. Still, I'm sure there are more than a few that have a dedicated gaming TV that isn't the most up-to-date piece. It served the Wii well enough, but it might not be doing Wii U any favors.

The same goes for connections on the audio front. If you want to get all you can out of the Wii U's audio, you'll have to go with an HDMI connector. You'll also want to get a more current sound system that can take advantage of the hugely upgraded audio offerings in the Wii U. Again, Nintendo was a bit behind when it came to adoption of these technical features, but now they're ready to bring them out full force.

Personally, I'm in for a bit of trouble. My current audio receiver only does HDMI audio. For all my other consoles, I use a digital output for audio (minus Wii). With the Wii U, I'll be plugging the video source into HDMI. For sound...I don't know yet! Can I run a component cable to take over just audio? Do I go with component for video and use HDMI for audio? I'm still not sure how I'll handle things.

Is your TV/Stereo setup ready to handle the best of the best Wii U can do, or are you in the same boat as me? Leave a comment and let us know how your setup is dictating your Wii U experience.

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10 Oct 2012 12:05

I'm a alittle confused by your setup RMC. You say your receiver only does HDMI audio but that you're using digital audio for your PS3 and xbox.


I have a ps3 and digital cable box going HDMI to my TV then using hte digital audio out from teh TV to my receiver. Adding the WiiU is just an additional HDMI cable going to the tv with no need to change my receiver since its receiving the digitial out from the TV regardless of what HMDI channel I'm set to.
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10 Oct 2012 12:06

LegendofSantiago wrote:I have a 15 inch 480p with monostereo (one of the speakers blew up) from 1999. Am I good?

I just realized you joined GoNintendo in January and already have almost 5200 posts. Holy hell.
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10 Oct 2012 12:09

cheswick wrote:I'm a alittle confused by your setup RMC. You say your receiver only does HDMI audio but that you're using digital audio for your PS3 and xbox.


I have a ps3 and digital cable box going HDMI to my TV then using hte digital audio out from teh TV to my receiver. Adding the WiiU is just an additional HDMI cable going to the tv with no need to change my receiver since its receiving the digitial out from the TV regardless of what HMDI channel I'm set to.


"I have a ps3 and digital cable box going HDMI to my TV then using hte digital audio out from teh TV to my receiver. "

I may be wrong here, but I think Digital Audio out on TVs only plays Dolby Digital 5.1 sound when you're viewing Over The Air TV stuff. Anything plugged into any of the other Inputs would playback non Dolby Digital 5.1 sound out of your receiver. If your TV/receiver allows it, I would run an HDMI cable from your TV to your receiver for Digital audio instead.
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10 Oct 2012 12:32

Who thinks RMC will get one for free from Nintendo? :3
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10 Oct 2012 12:38

RMC has the same problem as I do. I use a system that only has an optical in. I would use my PS3 with this since my system doesn't have an HDMI pass through, it only has one video out! So if HDMI truly is the only option for surround sound, I will have to buy a new sound setup. At least my TV is okay.
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10 Oct 2012 12:48

I have my 65" 3D LED HDTV ready to go. I'm still looking for a good 7.1 surround sound system at a decent price though.

@gatorboi352
5200? It shows up as 1563 posts for me...

Also, Nintendo needs to start advertising this thing. If we are about a month away then we need to let people know that! The average consumer probably has no idea what the Wii U even is yet.

Also, RMC should be getting his review version in the coming weeks. After Nintendo of America tweeted about his Style Savvy video they will definitely send one his way. lol
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10 Oct 2012 13:08

When I get my Wii U I'll just transfer my virtual console games, retire my Wii into its box since I won't be needing it anymore, then the Wii U will take its spot next to the TV. I'll use my Wii's componet cables for my Wii U. I play my games on an older HDTV that does up to 1080i and it looks fine with my PS3 so I doubt I'll get a new one anytime soon. Anyway I can't wait and I'm hoping Best Buy will let me pick it up at midnight so I can play it all day and I'll skip school the next day so I can play even more.

On a side note I think I seen RMC on a show called "Duck Dynasty". :wink:
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10 Oct 2012 13:18

TRIFORCE89 wrote:I'm facing the same problem. With my home setup I have HDMI to the TV and audio (through optical or coaxial cables) to the sound receiver. I use a universal remote to switch the input on the TV and receiver at the same time and keep everything in sync.

Right now, I'm thinking of using a device like this http://www.monoprice.com/products/produ ... 1&format=2


Thanks for posting that, it looks like that's exactly what I will need for my setup.
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10 Oct 2012 13:22

Ok everyone, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Wii U only have ONE HDMI port, no optical audio port, and a A/V port?

Which means, to get 1080p visuals, you need to run the HDMI from the Wii U to the TV, and to get surround sound, won't you need to connect the A/V cable to the Home Theater System?

How can you get HD video AND sound if the Wii U only has ONE HDMI port?
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10 Oct 2012 13:26

gatorboi352 wrote:
cheswick wrote:I'm a alittle confused by your setup RMC. You say your receiver only does HDMI audio but that you're using digital audio for your PS3 and xbox.


I have a ps3 and digital cable box going HDMI to my TV then using hte digital audio out from teh TV to my receiver. Adding the WiiU is just an additional HDMI cable going to the tv with no need to change my receiver since its receiving the digitial out from the TV regardless of what HMDI channel I'm set to.


"I have a ps3 and digital cable box going HDMI to my TV then using hte digital audio out from teh TV to my receiver. "

I may be wrong here, but I think Digital Audio out on TVs only plays Dolby Digital 5.1 sound when you're viewing Over The Air TV stuff. Anything plugged into any of the other Inputs would playback non Dolby Digital 5.1 sound out of your receiver. If your TV/receiver allows it, I would run an HDMI cable from your TV to your receiver for Digital audio instead.



Yeah I'll have to double check that I assumed it worked cause I was getting sound from all speakers but it very well could have been simulated prologic stuff. I only recently got an HD PVR so it used to be a non-issue with my PS3 digital direclty connected to my receiver. I might be SOL with my receiver then.
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10 Oct 2012 14:26

Plague wrote:Ok everyone, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Wii U only have ONE HDMI port, no optical audio port, and a A/V port?

Which means, to get 1080p visuals, you need to run the HDMI from the Wii U to the TV, and to get surround sound, won't you need to connect the A/V cable to the Home Theater System?

How can you get HD video AND sound if the Wii U only has ONE HDMI port?


HDMI carries both video and audio. Using the A/V cables won't give you true surround sound (I'm assuming it has component out? Prologic fakes surround sound with two input channels). To get both the TV and receiver optimally setup you need to get the HDMI from the WiiU going into the receiver then outputting HMDI to the TV or WiU HDMI going to the TV then outputting HMDI to the receiver.
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10 Oct 2012 14:56

I have 1 set of A/V ports, 1 set of component ports, and 2 HDMI ports. PS3 uses one HDMI port, My 360 used to, but the HDMI slot on it decided to stop working, so I use component for that. Guess it's kinda good that that happened though. Frees up space for the Wii U to plug in.

However, I like to plug my laptop into my TV every once and a while to watch a TV show or movie. Don't want to take the plug in and out, because it might mess my TV up. :(
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10 Oct 2012 14:58

I got a 47" 3D HDTV a set of 3 ft surround sound system speakers w/3D audio and sub woofers. And a smaller surround sound mini set with standard 3.5 headphone jack dedicated for just the game pad.Also a tivo series 4 box I got online for $35 and a gaming chair with built in speakers and rumble features. I've been getting ready for Wii U since I got my 3DS. And my sexy black deluxe will look sooo awesome with the Afterglow 2.0 headsets I just got from Gamestop My living room is READY
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10 Oct 2012 16:07

justsomeguy wrote:
TRIFORCE89 wrote:I'm facing the same problem. With my home setup I have HDMI to the TV and audio (through optical or coaxial cables) to the sound receiver. I use a universal remote to switch the input on the TV and receiver at the same time and keep everything in sync.

Right now, I'm thinking of using a device like this http://www.monoprice.com/products/produ ... 1&format=2


Thanks for posting that, it looks like that's exactly what I will need for my setup.


I'm no audio expert but I've been trying to do some online research. Some folks over at NeoGaf are saying that such a switch won't work with the WiiU. All you would get out of it was stereo sound cause the format the WiiU oudio outputs isn't compatible with optical out (or soemthing to that affect)

Page 15-16 has the relevant discussion.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread. ... 88&page=16
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10 Oct 2012 16:34

I picked up a small three slot HDMI switch. Got a 32 inch TV. 720p or 1080p I can't recall but at that size it doesn't matter. I'll stick with stereo audio for now. Will probably look at upgrading the system when I get a bigger tv.
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10 Oct 2012 19:24

Got my 40 inch LCD and my surround sound system. Now all I have to do is wait.
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10 Oct 2012 21:18

cheswick wrote:
justsomeguy wrote:
TRIFORCE89 wrote:I'm facing the same problem. With my home setup I have HDMI to the TV and audio (through optical or coaxial cables) to the sound receiver. I use a universal remote to switch the input on the TV and receiver at the same time and keep everything in sync.

Right now, I'm thinking of using a device like this http://www.monoprice.com/products/produ ... 1&format=2


Thanks for posting that, it looks like that's exactly what I will need for my setup.


I'm no audio expert but I've been trying to do some online research. Some folks over at NeoGaf are saying that such a switch won't work with the WiiU. All you would get out of it was stereo sound cause the format the WiiU oudio outputs isn't compatible with optical out (or soemthing to that affect)

Page 15-16 has the relevant discussion.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread. ... 88&page=16


Well that sucks, I guess I'll be stuck with stereo for now. Thanks for the info.
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10 Oct 2012 21:55

I'm pretty much set, other than the fact that I still want a 7.1 capable receiver. The receiver I have now is 5.1 which i'll be happy with for a while until i'm able to upgrade. I will have to move my systems around a bit to make room for the Wii U, but won't have to actually get rid of anything. I don't know yet if I want to have it vertical or horizontal, i'll decide that when I actually have the system.
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11 Oct 2012 04:20

Congrats again on the recognition from Nintendo. You more than deserve it.

One thing I hope... that you are not wearing Mom Brain's nightie to sleep...

{{{shudder}}}
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11 Oct 2012 22:06

all I have is a CRT television so I will have to use the Wii's composite cables with my Wii U.
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13 Oct 2012 23:12

I'm not sure what you mean, RMC. A receiver usually takes HDMI in from multiple sources (game consoles, Blu-Ray, etc.) and outputs both sound and video. Typically, video output is available in HDMI and older formats like component. So, if you use the HDMI connection on the Wii U, it should provide both audio and video, and the receiver will allow you to switch between different systems easily while using only one HDMI input on your TV. This is how even cheap receivers work, and that is how I'll use mine.

I'm sorry for any misunderstanding. I just want to help if there is some confusion about it, though I am probably the confused one. Some of the earliest receivers that use HDMI have an issue with 1080p, since most HD content was from TV sources, which are at most 1080i. However, even then, most would allow the video signal to simply pass through untouched and still parse out the audio properly. This is the case for my old cheap one.
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14 Oct 2012 19:00

Hahaha, I'm still working a box TV. No fancy HD's for me! I'll be using the Wii's old A/V cables in order to play with the Wii U. It's still on mono as well..
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14 Oct 2012 19:22

I long knew the day would come (kinda dreaded it really), & that I'd have to have EVERYTHING required, as I build my electronics around the demands of the console -so I had analog units (except DVD) that the Wii was optimized for. (very nice tube tv & Pro Logic sound) I wasn't ready then anyway. My standards are a bit high for the level of components, so it was daunting.
Then...
Last year my job dwindled to nothing, but I never gave up hope I'd somehow attain the miraculous.
Earlier this year I attained good employment, but w/time reduced, I worked at first 6 days a week, then 7 days for full o.t. A race against the clock!! JUST to be ready for the Wii U.
After months I'm ordering things & changing the room around. I can't believe it's happening.
-When the Wii U lands, so will I, as I can choose my hrs. & finally relax!
Panasonic 65" VT50 Plasma (THX picture)
Panasonic DMP-BDT 3D Blu-ray 7.1 player
Onkyo THX 7.1 home theater
Apple TV
(all THX certified HDMI Monster cables & speaker wires)
& THEN some!

Work hard & be rewarded!
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15 Oct 2012 18:34

HDMI cables send both video and audio through them, you should be good
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17 Oct 2012 04:46

I even set up my room to do a unboxing video

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