Homosexuality & Nintendo

[wisekris]

so I was thinking today, do you think that any of the the nintendo first party characters are homosexuals? I mean this to be literal, do you think any of them are attracted to the same sex?

Mario ? maybe
Samus? possibly
Link? nah..

[spoiler][img=mini]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/Tingle.jpg[/img]I think Tingle is a definite yes! [/spoiler]


what are your thoughts...

[PsychoJones]

My thoughts are this is a bit too obscure of a debate. The fact that they're coding and wouldn't be attracted to anything aside, I'll go over it for your amusement.

Mario: After all those hours of him rescuing Pauline, Daisy, and Peach, I doubt he would be homosexual.

Luigi: Quite possibly. Something about him just screams "fem"!

Samus: From my experience of the games, she never really encounters humans much. She's probably pretty lonely, might not be too picky.

Link: No matter how many times he gets reincarnated, he still seems to have a thing for Zelda. Hell, at the end of Zelda II, he and Zelda kissed behind a curtain.

Tingle: He's all kinds of camp, and pedo.

[darkfire]

PhychoJones is right, but i don't think luigi is gay. isn't he with daisy?
and Tingle, hes just all f*** up. just because he does wear tights, and skips, and thinks hes a fairy, and aperently wears make-up.......ok, yeah. tingles gay

[PsychoJones]

PhychoJones is right, but i don't think luigi is gay. isn't he with daisy?

If you had played Super Mario Land, you'd know that Daisy is all Mario's.

[wisekris]

PhychoJones is right, but i don't think luigi is gay. isn't he with daisy?

If you had played Super Mario Land, you'd know that Daisy is all Mario's.

yeah mario and peach were never a thing, and if he wasn't with dasiy he still had pauline..... ok so maybe he's not a homosexual...but he could be bi

[Drew39K]

ahem....cough...cough


Birdo must be considered homosexual.he thinks he is a she, thus in that line of thinking must like males.

[Edjarosu]

ahem.....cough


Birdo must be considered homosexual.he thinks he is a she, thus in that line of thinking must like males.

Thinking one is a female =/= Finding males sexually attractive.

On-topic: I don't think the creators are trying to suggest this kind of thing.

[PsychoJones]

Birdo must be considered homosexual.he thinks he is a she, thus in that line of thinking must like males.

Birdo could think that he's a lesbian.

[cortjezter]

you know, this is an interesting question, even if it does stray quite far from the characters and their appeal. nintendo characters are popular because they appeal to so many demographics, and appeal to those demographics because they're popular. one of the strengths of their franchises is that they're free from the things that normally alienate people... such as adult situations and sexuality. even innuendo is rare, if ever found in direct connection with them.

that said, to take them out of context and replaced into an adult context... we can all read whatever we want into it. gay characters are of course as much speculation as is assuming they're straight. do the male protagonists battle to free the damsel out of heroic duty, romantic interest, or a mixture of both? 2 of the 3 options imply heterosexuality, so the odds are in that favour, but this thread is to explore that other 1/3 chance that they're not.

that actually got me thinking about which characters are the most likely candidates, and as i was going down the mental list, it seems a fair amount of characters are in fact genderless. most enemies for example: birdo, goombas, koopas (minus the royal family) seem to reproduce asexually in some fashion; others who are specifically gendered seem to be one of a kind in breed, meaning they have no others in the species to mate with anyway. where is queen koopa? do queen gohma and king dodongo somehow interact? how does bongo bongo procreate? i think we can all deduce for ourselves the situation of Master Hand (super smash bros.).

other characters seem immediately identifiable as to which camp they belong. many gamers instantly peg tingle as the richard simmons of nintendo, but how can we be sure? twin rova from OoT... sisters, or check the box next to "other"? but those are human-like characters.

many nintendo characters aren't even human, which evokes the ever-long debate of whether homosexuality is somehow genetic or otherwise innate, or if it's a behaviour that is influenced by one's environment...or if that debate even applies to non-human life. do other animals or extraterrestrial life fall under the same rules as human sexuality?

or what about environmental physics? in the mushroom kingdom, gravity is obviously different from earth. humans can jump many times their own height into the air, as well as whole inanimate objects capable of floating freely. how does this affect nature, and thus, nature vs. nurture?

all that said, it seems we can only restrict our search to humanoid characters of earth or earthlike origin.

• mario? not likely. he is often seen with or chasing after women all over the place, including his 'girlfriend' from the early 80s, pauline.
• luigi? he could be, seems he's either much lonelier in the companionship department, at least to any extent we are shown.
• samus? no way. her hair is much too long
• link? sort of in the same boat as mario, but then he DID run away from babealicious Saria in fear of her 'advances'.
• zelda? seems to have some identity issues. between cross-dressing as sheik, and posing as pirate on a ship of men... she could have some secrets to hide.
• mr. game & watch? the title of 'mr' implies a possible counterpart of a 'mrs. game & watch', but it could also be a formality, since he's always dressed in that slimming, (metro)sexual black.

those are some of the rather short list of characters who we can actually make conclusions about from a scientific/societal standpoint (based on our own world and physiologies), and it's a very mixed bag. of course nintendo will likely never comment on twinrova as their own in-house version of 'bert & ernie', but that doesn't mean we can't have fun guessing!

[extrarice]

ahem.....cough


Birdo must be considered homosexual.he thinks he is a she, thus in that line of thinking must like males.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/transsexual
Precicely because Birdo thinks he's a "she", if he were to be attracted to males, he would not be gay since in his mind he would be attracted to the opposite sex. "Transsexual" fits better for Birdo.

[Mactel Mordek]

Shiek. Shiek is the gay one you are looking for. I knew there was something different about him, even before I found out he was actually Zelda. The Emo hair, the tights, I mean, c'mon, the harp! When I was a kid, I would read his dialog out loud, and I came up with this incredibly gay voice for him. Definately Shiek.

Tingle, on the other hand, I don't think is gay. Just because he's strange, doesn't mean he is gay. He's not good looking enough to be gay.

I don't mean to be offensive, because I know when things are read, versus heard, they get twisted badly.

[digital love]

Wow, sheik is definitely gay(or at least very effiminate). He's sortof hot . Does he always keep that thing on his face?

evidence: http://students.thiel.edu/acosentino/images/zelda.jpg

[Miss Moonlight]

I don't think tingle is actually supposed to be gay .. he's a questionable character though, just really annoying and charges alot of rupees for things, also tries to steal rupees in four swords for GC. A weirdo. LOL

[Zachalmighty]

I don't think tingle is actually supposed to be gay .. he's a questionable character though, just really annoying and charges alot of rupees for things, also tries to steal rupees in four swords for GC. A weirdo. LOL

Well remember that Tingle wasnt a fairy originaly and the only way to change him back is by he making a set amount of rupees.

[JasonWin]

Moved to Debate, I belive it fits here much better.

[Nintend()\/\/|\|312]

[*]samus? no way. her hair is much too long

Rofl.

As for Link, I'm really not sure. The OoT Link I think might just not be into relationships and that because after all, he is just a kid and just a kid in a 17 (?) year-olds body. He still kind of had that "gurlz R icky!" mentality throughout the game, especially with the whole Ruto and Saria things. Still, he seemed pretty close to Zelda.

However, in TP Link was a real ladies man. You know he had the hots for Midna and you would have to be blind not to spot the whole Ilia thing going on there.

[thewster]

Mario I'd say no.

Luigi maybe...but I've heard he's been with Daisy lately

Tingle......I don't need to answer

Link definitely no.

Samus I'm not sure because she doesn't hang around with any characters....except all the metroids.....anyways!

All around Tingle is pretty much the only definite one.

[JimNasium]

Whoever the guy was in that chicken game in Zelda TP must've been gay

[Yishai]

Tingle just seems like a child molestor. The whole thing was that he wanted to be a fairy or elf or something right? I think he's also very japanese, and that there wasn't an intended meaning there, we just saw it that way with western eyes.

Nintendo characters never really have a sexuality and in the Zelda series they let you kind of decide what happened after the story ended. They leave that open which is a good way to handle it I suppose.

[Miss Moonlight]

Tingle just seems like a child molestor. The whole thing was that he wanted to be a fairy or elf or something right? I think he's also very japanese, and that there wasn't an intended meaning there, we just saw it that way with western eyes.

Good way of putting it.

[Da_RaY]

[*]link? sort of in the same boat as mario, but then he DID run away from babealicious Saria in fear of her 'advances'

because link is my homie im standing in his defense and saying he was just a child at the time and probably thought she had cooties or something

[Dont drink the koolaid!]

Yeah. Some of them look pretty gay ( link, Fox, Captian Falcon.) , but so what. There's nothing wrong with it. [color=darkblue][/color][size=18][/size]

[Creedy316]

mario-nope. spends too much tiem chasing girls

luigi-probably

link- no way. link is a real player. saria, ruto, malon, zelda, illia, the bartender lady...hoooie.

samus-probably not.

tingle- very yes.

fox- he and falco may just LOOK like rivals...

captain falcon- no one wears that much purple...

and birdo- first video game transexual.

[bearded OTP]

Tingle is as queer as they come...

See i have always thought that perhaps Luigi was gay, but after playing New Super Mario Bros. I'm starting to think he's actually straight.

Go into that game and play the last level where you save the princess. save her both as Mario and then Luigi and listen to their reactions. Luigi acts very strangely and says "okie-dokie" now watch Mario's overly excited reply.

Again one might think Luigi is gay, or just shy around girls, but, keep in mind how peach comes in after you beat Bowser, she floats down while the two boys lookup. in other words there is a major "upskirt" moment happening there.

So my theory is that Peach is a tranny and Mario is the fruity one...play, it and ponder it my friends.

[Clowns8me]

Captain Falcon is completley flamming. The pink suit in Brawl, and "Show me your moves!" just scream homosexuality.
Luigi: no
Sheik, what ever he/she/it is, it's gay.
Birdo is some weird transvestite/transexual in Japan. It's weird. Look it up.
Olimar is as straight as they come.
Samus is not gay, she's just lonley.
That messenger guy from Twilight Princess was just, creepy. He might of been gay.