cortjezter wrote:RPG game length: is 40 hours enough?
StAwesome wrote:its like you are trying to convince yourself good writing is subjective, if thats the case, then why isnt someone publishing 4 year old timmy's story about cat poop? somebody is bound to find it brilliant, right?
Yarbskoo wrote:That's exactly what it is. Subjectivity refers to a person's perspective or opinion, particular feelings, beliefs, and desires, whereas a proposition is generally considered to be objectively true when its truth conditions are "mind-independent"—that is, not the result of any judgments made by a conscious entity or subject. You believe Final Fantasy games have poor writing, but you cannot prove it. You cannot "prove" something is "good" or "poor". Those are opinions, and not everyone will agree with yours.
StAwesome wrote:"That's exactly what it is. "
no, its NOT
there is bound to be people who like crappy stuff, that doesnt make it less crappy. maybe THEY dont think its crappy, but it is.
you can argue that the defective toyota cars are just as good as any other, and you perfectly fine with brakes that dont work, but your opinion does NOT make the car a good car.
the twilight movies are BAD MOVIES, they suffered from issues even uwe boll can get right, plenty of people still loved the movies, but that doesnt mean the director didnt suck at his job.
avatar (the crappy one) was great, objectively speaking, it had a solid story, its cg was great, its 3d effective, the acting was top tier, and its cinematography was nothing short of james cameron
BUT IT WAS A SH*TTY MOVIE (that is opinion)
Yarbskoo wrote:"the twilight movies are BAD MOVIES"
You'll find that you cannot. "Good" and "bad" are NOT objective. They are abstract concepts created by the human mind. The very DEFINITION of subjectivity. There is no experiment that you can perform. There is no mathematical computation you can create.
You can say something is "good" or "bad", but you cannot prove it, and it makes little difference on the chances that I will enjoy it, so why should I even care? There are no "good" games. There are no "bad" games. There are games I enjoy and those I don't. In real life, that is all that matters.
i'm afraid not, bud. honestly the purpose of thread seems to be for you exclusively about your "debate" with StAwesome, not about RPG length. don't worry about it.Yarbskoo wrote:Does anyone even care?
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