Do Metroid need to enter mature territory?

[Vonter]

First I'm not declaring Metroid should be more violent or involve gore. What I'm referring is since Nintendo clearly has started gaining interest in developing Samus as a character I think the tone should be more serious.

Other M tried to have a really toned down Metal Gear plot - betrayal, self doubt, and conspiracy issues were very present in the narrative. However I think the tone should relate more on the issue of Samus being a lonely person.

If there is a Metroid in Wii U I hope they try to take another take on the Alien series, mainly in the design and tone of the classic movies, and for those that don't know also take some of the sexual subtext the environment and creature design took. Bottom line I think the next Metroid should be rated Mature (Mass Effect mature if possible).

[Nintend()\/\/|\|312]

Yeah, I'd like something like this. I'd love to see Nintendo really delve into the why Samus is such a lonely person and why she goes around the universe killing things for money. Metroid was influenced by the Alien movies, so it would be nice to see Nintendo take that a little bit further.

Also, you brought up Mass Effect, which is interesting because female Shepard was voiced by Jenifer Hale, the same woman who voiced the grunts and screams of Samus in the Prime series. I play the ME games as femShep because I like pretending Shepard is a Samus-type character before she quit the Galactic federation. So, when thinking about why Samus prefers flying solo, I think of the type of things that would make Shepard quit her military life and go it alone.

[gtt]

only if they give the story to someone who won't use terribad anime dialog and terrible misogynistic plots. probably should take it out of japan to make, sorry to say, they seem to be stuck in 1992 as far as story goes anymore.

[MCSKITTLE19]

what a stupid question metroid is mature territory. Samus Aran is a Hunter anybody knows that. How about will Metroid go back to multiplayer with online? That would be epic.

[misswliu81]

well metroid is arguably nintendo's one and only franchise that isn't in the same vein as kirby, mario and zelda and a lot of the gameplay and storylines make for a type of game fans of action games would get into.

but i don't think that going mature is necessary. rather nintendo and sakamoto needs to flesh out her character more. but not make her any more submissive as she was in other M. it would be interesting if there was a prequel to the first metroid game made where we learn about her parents getting killed by ridley when she was a little girl and her becoming orphaned and was looked after by the chozo. and she later becomes a bounty hunter and saving the universe.

[KingBroly]

I think they first need to find someone who is not only creative, but actually cares about the work they're doing as well as understands the character archetype they have at their disposal (excluding Other M and Fusion if necessary). Because I have a hard time believing that Yoshio Sakamoto knows how to make a unique Metroid game anymore, after only making 1 unique Metroid game since 1994 (Zero Mission is a re-imagining of Metroid 1, Other M is a prequel rehash of Fusion). Because he definitely doesn't understand what it means to be a loner, he doesn't understand what it means to be a hero, and he sure as hell doesn't understand what it means to be a woman.

[Einar1025]

I said it before and I will say it again.

Irrational Games! (People behind System Shock 2, and Bioshock)

I don't think the series needs to go mature, but I think in the hands of Ken Levine and the people at Irrational Games Nintendo could have a SERIOUS hit on their hands!

[Nintend()\/\/|\|312]

I said it before and I will say it again.

Irrational Games! (People behind System Shock 2, and Bioshock)

I don't think the series needs to go mature, but I think in the hands of Ken Levine and the people at Irrational Games Nintendo could have a SERIOUS hit on their hands!

*salivates* I certainly would not object to this. I'm not sure if Irrational could be convinced to work on a Nintendo console exclusive, or if Nintendo would be willing to give them the independence they would deserve, but this would be amazing if it ever happened.

[KingBroly]

I'd rather have Rocksteady do a Metroid game before Irrational. They do well under the confines of a fictional universe, not making up stuff as they go along.

[Edjarosu]

I think Metroid works best within the model of the traditional Metroid games, and I personally believe that that format precludes any traditional storyline stuff. The storyline has to be enmeshed with the environment, so that the player discovers the storyline as they discover the environment. I'm not interested in Samus developing as a character and I'm certainly not interested in any other bounty hunters in that universe--in my opinion, the attempts at that kind of storytelling in the Metroid universe have been resounding failures. A Metroid game should be about discovering how the story happened, instead of just watching the story happen. That's much more in line with the actual strengths of the series.

[bunny-cow]

I would love to see Metroid have the mood and atmosphere as Alien. Why not? They were almost there with Prime.

Although those changes would probably lead to a talking Samus again (which is fine), human characters or Artificial Intelligence to converse with and would later have to be victims, de-emphasizing the strong "bounty hunter" aspect of Samus and emphasizing more on survival and the fears of being isolated in somewhere strange, and it probably means the whole look and feel of the game will be more subdued and harsher and not have that colorful Nintendo/Metroid-flare where everything is so Sci-Fi ugly yet very colorful. I'm basically pegging the movie Prometheus to convey the mood.

I could go for that for a trial run, but I think this type of Metroid could still pass as a "Teen" rated game.

[darkdragoon]

Possibly some stuff on what it means to be "human" when you're really some sort of alien cyborg hybrid etc., but I don't think there has to be melodrama for a character that regularly wipes out planets and the like.

[WarioT]

I'd never look at Metroid the same way again if this happens

[player value]

Samus and Mother Brain have a ("kind of") lesbian relathionship. You don't think that's mature enough? Are there lesbians in COD? I don't want Metroid to end like a porn. Sorry, but without me!

[Sailing_Day]

If they do it correctly, yeah, Metroid could definitely delve into some darker territory. Of course, I would hate to see gratuitous gore and sexuality and the like, but if it's done correctly it would add a lot to the series. I just hope Team Ninja isn't involved again...

[Aaronnoraator]

Samus and Mother Brain have a ("kind of") lesbian relathionship. You don't think that's mature enough? Are there lesbians in COD? I don't want Metroid to end like a porn. Sorry, but without me!

I decided to search this up, because it reminded me of the theory that Portal is a metaphor for a lesbian relationship or something like that. My reaction:

[AmicableWalrus]

As Edjarosu said, Metroid storytelling is at its best when you're figuring out what happened through the environment. Ideally they could intelligently and skillfully develop Samus as a character while maintaining the forensic-style storytelling. Incidentally, this is what I was hoping Corruption would do...

[linkgx1]

Take Two doing a Metroid Prime game would be incredible...

[Devil_Rising]

Bad grammar aside, no, I have zero interest in seeing another Metroid game that quote-unquote "develops Samus as a character". That was, honestly, never meant to happen anyway. And the results, as seen, were fairly disastrous. Characters like Mario and Samus and Link are special in a way that many other gaming characters aren't, because instead of having some artificial voice that some writer or game designer gives them, the only real voice they have is that which the PLAYER gives them. The characters are who you want them to be, and quite frankly it's much more fun that way.

To see Samus reduced to some sh*tty interpretation of what someone THINKS Samus "should be like", was and is terrible. I don't personally ever want to see that again.


And just as a P.S. to all the people saying "I'd rather see X company do Metroid, etc.", allow me to just say:

I'd rather have NINTENDO do a new Metroid game. In 2D, hand drawn, the way it should be. They did the best Metroid games ever created (original, Super, Zero Mission remake), they need to be the ones to get off their asses and make a new, PROPER Metroid game again. Then again, I feel the same way about them making a true, PROPER sequel to Star Fox 64. I may be (sadly) alone in this opinion, but I really, REALLY miss the days when Nintendo actually developed most of their great franchises themselves. As far as I'm concerned, the BEST entries in franchises like Metroid, Star Fox, F-Zero, Wave Race, etc., were developed in-house by Nintendo. While outside studios like Retro have done some really good stuff, on the other hand I'd love to see Retro blossom and start doing their own IPs, and on the OTHER other hand, I just get really tired of Japanese companies, but Nintendo lately in particular, who farm their own franchises out to other (typically Western) developers.

If you ask me, they all need to get off their lazy asses and go back to making their OWN great games again (if, in the case of companies like Capcom and Konami, they're even capable of that anymore.)

[Lebesgue]

No. Nintendo needs to be putting out more games that enter mature territory, but that is something that should be done through the creation of new IP. Metroid should remain in dark, but family-friendly, territory. The suggestion that it should be an M-rated title that is "Mass Effect mature" sounds very unappealing to this Metroid fan.

[Devil_Rising]

I'd argue the notion that Nintendo "needs" to be putting out more so-called "mature" titles. You need something for everyone, surely. But Nintendo has been doing quite well for themselves, the most successful game publisher in video game history in fact, for decades, without making "mature" titles in-house.

[Jerome]

I don't think Metroid needs to go M rated, as it's done well without focusing on "mature" content like gratuitous violence, and besides, that would just limit its appeal to a smaller audience.

I also think Sakamoto is missing the point of the series. The main character in the original games wasn't Samus, it was the world. People played the games to explore new and alien worlds with a nondescript sci-fi character, not to explore the psyche of an female character in increasingly generic sci-fi worlds.

[KingBroly]

*Steps into thread

*Everyone gazes at KingBroly, hushed, jaws slightly unhinged, wondering what he'll say.


I'd rather Nintendo prove they can make a Metroid game first.


*Leaves thread

[Devil_Rising]

Metroid: Zero Mission, done in house, circa 2004. 'Nuff said.

[KingBroly]

Metroid: Zero Mission, done in house, circa 2004. 'Nuff said.

Remakes prove nothing. Especially since that was 9 years ago and after their last involvement involvement in the series. They, as far as I'm concerned, can't be trusted with the series.