good read on the current state of the PSP

by **Believe IT!** » 28 Oct 2005 14:23

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/psp/psp-bus-rolls-into-town-nobody-comes-133798.php

by **Zidane** » 28 Oct 2005 14:36

Well that sucks. Although I do enjoy the DS, I think it is good to have some nice competition every once in a while. I feel sorry for that PSP guy too. I'd hate to be that needy.

by **b214** » 28 Oct 2005 14:40

Hehehe, i feel bad for those employees.

by **PsychoJones** » 28 Oct 2005 15:05

You can download onto the PSP? I thought it was just supposed to be worn on a chain around your neck with the rest of your "bling". :wink:

Gotta Catch Em All!! · by **hohez** » 28 Oct 2005 15:32

I cant wait for someone to make a screensaver for it that is nothing but a spinner-rim.

GO GO RACIST RANGERS! · by **Lumphead** » 28 Oct 2005 17:14

i don't feel bad for the guy if he was getting paid by the hour, not by the amounts of downloads. If it is by the hour, it would be a sweet job!

by **b214** » 28 Oct 2005 21:19

But it's embarressing as hell to feel needy and stretch conversations with people. I'd need to be getting paid a lot of money to take that job

by **Zidane** » 28 Oct 2005 21:24

b214 wrote:But it's embarressing as hell to feel needy and stretch conversations with people. I'd need to be getting paid a lot of money to take that job

Exactly. I'd hate asking so many people just to try out something. Like that guy in the mall that ask if you want a free sample. He can't leave until all the food is gone.

by **b214** » 28 Oct 2005 22:09

it's worse when few people want anything to do with what you are trying to promote

by **KcKelley** » 28 Oct 2005 23:15

Maybe if the psp worked well, and was actually good, they wouldn't have this problem.

Brought it upon themselves I'm afraid. (Not the bus dudes, but Sony....poor bus dudes......now if it was bus dudes with bikini babes, that would be different, but alas, no bikini babes, so......poor bus dudes)

by **MR_Man** » 29 Oct 2005 02:30

Jaden wrote:the psp is good....but the ds sells so much better!

Yeah tis the truth. I need to see my buddy who has a PSP just so I can gloat over having a DS, he was telling me a while back about how there are soooo many more good games our for the PSP.....

Maybe if the psp worked well, and was actually good, they wouldn't have this problem.

Brought it upon themselves I'm afraid.

What is wrong with it minus battery and price?

Gotta Catch Em All!! · by **hohez** » 29 Oct 2005 02:43

how about aids loading times. and well battery life and price are all there needs to be wrong with a portable for me to say it sucks. Let's not forget the library of games that are leftovers from PS2. When holding it in my hand i honestly feel like it's going to break also. It doesn't exactly feel cheap, but it just has way too many parts and feels like stuff could come apart at any moment.

I have a friend who bought one day one and has since bought up every game he can find to the point where hes importing 2 or 3 games at a time. Does he do this because it's fun.

No.

He does this because it's new and expensive and he wants to be trendy. Having spent time with it, and played several games, and watched movies etc, i can say as a portable system it blows a donkey so hard it bloats up like Mickey's hand when he hits it with a hammer.

My Pile Of Games · by **darkside** » 29 Oct 2005 03:10

The DS is crushing the PSP in Japan, but up until Nintendogs the PSP had outsold the DS in the US. With GTA released the PSP may have a pretty big holiday season. The DS will be fine as well as it really seems to be finding a bigger audience in the US.

The PSP seems to have caught on in the US though strictly because of movies. Seems like everyone I talk to is watching movies on the thing and really haven't bought or played many games. That is okay, but if I'm a software maker I'm not sure I want to develop games for something that has become a movie player more than anything else. Of course the PSP has become a major place to shovel old PSone, PS2 and Sega Saturn games and then charge $40-$50 for them. That is definitely hurting it with gamers as well.

I owned one for a few months and its a cool piece of hardware overall. However, its a pretty mediocre gaming system. The battery life didn't bother me nearly as much as the ridiculous loading times and the horrible control nub.

Hopefully Nintendo is watching everything Sony has done wrong on the PSP and will improve it for their next handheld system.

by **PsychoJones** » 29 Oct 2005 10:15

I've been in several DSvsPSP arguments before and frankly, the PSP always ends up looking a big gimmick.

That's right. I said it. PSP is the gimmick. :wink:

by **b214** » 29 Oct 2005 11:51

You can't forget the dead pixels and the fact that sony released it while the cd could pop out easily(sony needs to trouble shoot their crappy systems)

by **MR_Man** » 30 Oct 2005 03:05

I've been in several DSvsPSP arguments before and frankly, the PSP always ends up looking a big gimmick.

That's right. I said it. PSP is the gimmic

That is the first time I've heard that, in every argument I've heard (before the DS actually had games) it was always "The PSP is a sex machine and the DS is a gimmick".

You can't forget the dead pixels and the fact that sony released it while the cd could pop out easily(sony needs to trouble shoot their crappy systems)

Dead pixels, Sony's fualt. The Disc shooting out? Have you ever actually done that? I have and I had to twist the thing like a tortilla to get that to happen.

You also have to take into account that the PSP is still VERY early in its life span. Right now the PSP is going through the 6-12 month dry period that all new consoles have (Up until recently the DS also had crap games).

Loading times can be cut if developers take time to do so, although it is true that they will be longer than a Cartridge.

I never found the battery life to be much of an issue but I never really took the PSP anywhere because I had this great fear of breaking it (yes you actually do feel like you are going to break it, not in the sense that if you sneeze it will die but in the sense that you're holding a fragile new born baby).

All in all the PSP is a system with a good amount of potential. It is flawed in many ways but it is also sort of venturing into new areas for hand helds, I'd say give Sony credit for trying.

by **Alesis** » 30 Oct 2005 12:51

I have to admit that sony had a good attempt, but they forgot along the way what they where designing. Not a dvd player, an mp3 player, a pda, an attractive brick but a games console. GO NINTENDO GO!

''Hand it over, your ds or your life!'' What would you do?
Alesis

Gotta Catch Em All!! · by **hohez** » 30 Oct 2005 13:42

they just don't have as much experience as nintendo in the handheld region

Meh that's a cop out. They have been making games long enough to be accountable for their mistakes.

by **PsychoJones** » 30 Oct 2005 13:47

MR_Man wrote:That is the first time I've heard that, in every argument I've heard (before the DS actually had games) it was always "The PSP is a sex machine and the DS is a gimmick".

The DS is no gimmick. It opens new doors in gaming. It allows for games like Nintendogs and Electropankton.

The PSP is the real gimmick. They jammed everything they could into an overpriced, fragile pile of plastic. For more than the price of a next-gen system, you get a device that covers almost all of electronic media, but does none of it well.

by **tismatron** » 30 Oct 2005 15:53

go ds!!!!

the psps is just foir movies, with that screen... *(drools and wishes ds had a screen like it*

by **Alesis** » 30 Oct 2005 17:44

Don't get me wrong, I love films. But thats why I have a DVD player. I love games and thats why I got the ds. The psp reminds me of a lava lamp. Looks good, takes ages to warm up, and fairly useless after 10 min.
Alesis

by **MR_Man** » 31 Oct 2005 03:20

hohez wrote:
they just don't have as much experience as nintendo in the handheld region

Meh that's a cop out. They have been making games long enough to be accountable for their mistakes.

......... For starters please name 10 games Sony has made. Secondly please name atleast one other hand held console that sony has created...... Read what I said.

The DS is no gimmick. It opens new doors in gaming. It allows for games like Nintendogs and Electropankton.

First off we need to be clear on what a gimmick is: Gimmick.
You also need to read what I said. I stated that in all the arguments I've HEARD the DS (BEFORE IT GOT GOOD GAMES!!!!) was the gimmick. Once the PSP has good games you will not (or should not) complain. If the DS had Wario Ware Touched and 15 other feel the Magic clones it WOULD be a gimmick and until recently when it GOT GOOD GAMES it was a gimmick. Now you are actually right in saying the DS is (present) not a gimmick but I am also right in saying that the DS was (past) a gimmick in all the other arguments i've heard (past) before (past) it got good games.

Alesis wrote:I have to admit that sony had a good attempt, but they forgot along the way what they where designing. Not a dvd player, an mp3 player, a pda, an attractive brick but a games console. GO NINTENDO GO!

See they were trying to make it all of these things. Then they realized half way through that most multi-media devices suck wang and they had to focus more on games. By this time it was too late to go back so they had to include the stuff. They're making it work better with the new media updates, I've heard the newest one is pretty kick ass (I have yet to check it out).
(BTW I talked about the above as if it were a fact, which it isn't. I was just getting a point across.)[/quote]

Gotta Catch Em All!! · by **hohez** » 01 Nov 2005 00:31

http://games.ign.com/objects/026/026383.html
http://games.ign.com/objects/026/026385.html

Hmm looks to be well over ten games between those 2 links. There is another half dozen or so Sony links in the companies section which all show exactly what that branch has published and developed/is developing.

Saying Sony doesn't have the amount of experience as nintendo in a handheld market is a cop out. They were a major success with PS1, they Ran away with the sales crown with the PS2. After all this time they have absolutely no excuse what so ever for making a system with so many flaws, handheld or not.

Read what I said

by **MR_Man** » 01 Nov 2005 02:21

Fair enought but you missed my point (as it may have been unclear). Sony doesn't develope games in the same sense that Nintendo creates Mario and works on creating games daily, it is part of what they do. Sony on the other hand creates the hard ware and has little to any effect in the actual creation of the games when compared to nintendo.

Saying Sony doesn't have the amount of experience as nintendo in a handheld market is a fact

I edited that for you. The hand held market and the console market are two COMPLETELY different things. Sony has never created a hand held console and has not been creating game consoles near as long as nintendo. Hell nintendo has been making hand helds for almost as long as Sony has been making consoles. Nintendo has taken on many other competitors and learned what it takes to make a good hand held and then beat them and as such they know that.

Once again I will say that if the PSP had a good amount of kick ass games few would complain. Until a console (hand held or not) has games it is a concept idea. The DS was a worthless gimmick until it had good games. The PSP is a semi-worthless (I say semi worthless because it has other features which it can be used for like movies. You can argue the DS has pictochat and backwards compatability but I'm going to ignore those two things as I'd personally rather play GBA games on a GBA SP then a DS).

See what I'm getting at here?

IMO the main problem with the PSP is it was over ambituous and rushed. They should release a PSP SP with longer battery life and fix the other problems (list all your complaints here).

Gotta Catch Em All!! · by **hohez** » 01 Nov 2005 02:34

Yeah, I'm not saying Sony should be as good at it as Nintendo, but the fact is, this industry isn't something new to them. They have been making electronic entertainment equipment for as long as I can remember.

Even if we go with just construction quality. PSP feels like it is going to come apart. Where's the sony I remember when I was younger and i could drop my walkman ten feet and it would skip and keep going.

I know they are new to handhelds, but the whole thing just seems like an idea that should have been thrown out that wasn't.

I agree it seems over ambitious and rushed. They didn't think about what people really want, instead they thought from a technological point of view. How much crap can we cram into one shell and people will still buy it.

The biggest holding back factor to me is UMDs. They are pushed far more for crappy movies than for games.

I honestly don't understand why we are arguing anymore :lol:

. We both seem to be in agreement that the PSP has major flaws, and yet....well........ It seems you got a little defensive on the PSP bashing and took us all for haters when we aren't. It's just much too flawed of an item for me to consider purchasing.

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