Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (10/7/12)

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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby Blue_Falcon » 15 Mar 2012 21:30

SomeBritishGuy wrote:
Blue_Falcon wrote:4th Gen did the same thing to 3rd Gen. In fact, 4th Gen Overused was far more centralized to Sinnoh Pokémon than the current metagame is to 5th Gen (even when you don't count all five Rotom formes). One big difference is that pretty much every "trio" Pokémon from the 5th Gen is in OU (apart from Thundurus in DAS Ubers) while 4th... had one.


I'm looking at the tier list right now, and here's what I see:

3rd gen

-30 OU (Didn't count Dusclops and Magneton)
-46 BL

4th gen

-48 OU
-11 BL

5th gen

-50 OU
-6 BL

3rd gen technically had the greatest amount of usable pokémon, but considering more than half of them were BL, I would argue that 4th gen had the best balance. OU, BL, and even UU creatures are pretty close to each other in terms of possible strategies. Of course, a team of 6 UU won't stand a chance against an all OU set, but many people use the various creatures from lower tiers in order to complement their more powerful pokémon. I once lost a Gyarados and Machamp to Bibarel. In 5th gen, it seems that using UU or even BL in an OU battle is out of the question because the gap between the former two and the latter is huge.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby MegaMan64 » 01 May 2012 21:02

So can you transfer your B&W pokemanz to B&W2?
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby OprahFTWinfrey » 01 May 2012 21:39

MegaMan64 wrote:So can you transfer your B&W pokemanz to B&W2?


Since there aren't any new Pokemon, I would imagine you would be able to trade Unova's native Pokemon at any time, and being able to trade Pokemon from other regions after getting the national Pokedex just like you can in all the other games.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby MegaMan64 » 01 May 2012 22:02

OprahFTWinfrey wrote:
MegaMan64 wrote:So can you transfer your B&W pokemanz to B&W2?


Since there aren't any new Pokemon, I would imagine you would be able to trade Unova's native Pokemon at any time, and being able to trade Pokemon from other regions after getting the national Pokedex just like you can in all the other games.


When you say trade, you mean transfer, right?
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby OprahFTWinfrey » 01 May 2012 22:24

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OprahFTWinfrey wrote:
MegaMan64 wrote:So can you transfer your B&W pokemanz to B&W2?


Since there aren't any new Pokemon, I would imagine you would be able to trade Unova's native Pokemon at any time, and being able to trade Pokemon from other regions after getting the national Pokedex just like you can in all the other games.


When you say trade, you mean transfer, right?


No, I mean trade. I imagine Black and White 2 will work sort of like how Heartgold/Soulsilver worked with Diamond/Pearl/Platinum. A new set of games that are completely different but are still considered to be in the same generation of Pokemon.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby HammerGalladeBro » 01 May 2012 23:22

I'm yet to play Black & White, so maybe I'll get both B/W and B2/W2 the same day.
Pokémon's not a prioroty to me for the moment.
So do you think I should play B/W first to understand B2/W2 story? (can't believe I'm asking for something to understand Pokémon's story).
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 02 May 2012 23:13

HammerGalladeBro wrote:I'm yet to play Black & White, so maybe I'll get both B/W and B2/W2 the same day.
Pokémon's not a prioroty to me for the moment.
So do you think I should play B/W first to understand B2/W2 story? (can't believe I'm asking for something to understand Pokémon's story).

The story between B/W and B2/W2 will probably be the same in differences as the story between R/B and G/S. You will be able to play one without the other and understand it just fine, but there will be a story that will flow from one into another.(i.e. Team Rocket is defeated in R/B and comes back in G/S)
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby Waluigi » 20 May 2012 14:17

Artwork for new Kami Trio forms...

Thundurus: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/30206/4/1.jpg
Tornadus: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/29410/4/15.jpg
Landorus: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/29410/4/13.jpg

All of them are MUCH better than the originals, IMO. Thundurus is my favorite, and its nice to see Tornadus actually look like a pure-Flying type.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby AtomicBean » 20 May 2012 14:33

Still don't care for Thundurus' design, Tornadus is...alright I guess, and after getting a clearer look I think Landorus is my favorite of the three now. That cheetah look actually fits him quite well.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby Mirr0rR3flection » 20 May 2012 15:06

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Reminds me of Raikou.....

(*Not a bad thing! :D *)

I'm also loving Thundurus's new look. Tornadus looks OK I guess.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby WarioT » 21 May 2012 09:58

I'll wait for the 3DS main Pokemon game
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby Matthew GS » 22 May 2012 14:14

Since we are gonna get 3DS apps and functionality around the launch of these games, my only concern is if these games will be in widescreen when played on the 3DS.

I really don't like the black bars when playing DS games on my 3DS.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby Blue_Falcon » 23 May 2012 01:47

Waluigi wrote:Artwork for new Kami Trio forms...

Thundurus: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/30206/4/1.jpg
Tornadus: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/29410/4/15.jpg
Landorus: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/29410/4/13.jpg

All of them are MUCH better than the originals, IMO. Thundurus is my favorite, and its nice to see Tornadus actually look like a pure-Flying type.


They all look horrible. Thundurus the least, but horrible nonetheless. I hated the originals, but they grew on me. Their origins and lore helped. Doubt backstories and influences will change my opinion of these monstrosities.

And why exactly must a flying-type absolutely need to resemble something with wings? As far as I'm concerned, birds and bird-like creatures are not the only things in the sky.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby Mirr0rR3flection » 23 May 2012 07:45

Matthew GS wrote:my only concern is if these games will be in widescreen when played on the 3DS.

I really don't like the black bars when playing DS games on my 3DS.

As long as theres other DS games (including newly released ones) that can't be played in widescreen, then no.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby Jazzy » 06 Jun 2012 12:27

If only there were a way to transfer them without trading... it's not fair that we'd need two DS systems! I suppose if I can't find my decrepit DS lite, I could trade them to a friend from Black, and have them trade them back to me on BW2... tedious, though.

Also I have to agree about the Thundurus, Tornadus and Landorus forms... wtf?! Does anyone know if it's only legendaries that will have forms?
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby KingBroly » 21 Jun 2012 05:41

Some info now that it's out in Japan:
- Both games have DIFFICULTY SETTINGS (Assist, Normal and Challenge) (HOLY shovel!)
- For wifi matches, disconnecting lowers your player rating, other players can see it
- If you turn your DS off while in a wifi match, you won't be able to battle for a short time
- Some music for your pleasure: http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org3114720.mp3 (HOLY shovel!)
- You can continuously use repel until you run out (HOLY shovel!)
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (Out in Japan!)

Postby CrispyGoomba » 21 Jun 2012 08:23

KingBroly wrote:Some info now that it's out in Japan:
- Both games have DIFFICULTY SETTINGS (Assist, Normal and Challenge) (HOLY shovel!)
- For wifi matches, disconnecting lowers your player rating, other players can see it
- If you turn your DS off while in a wifi match, you won't be able to battle for a short time
- Some music for your pleasure: http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org3114720.mp3 (HOLY shovel!)
- You can continuously use repel until you run out (HOLY shovel!)


Difficulty settings? In a Pokemon game? HOLY shovel!

And by continuously using repels, does that mean you can use more than 1 at a time? So you don't have to go back in your bag and use another repel?
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (Out in Japan!)

Postby AtomicBean » 21 Jun 2012 10:57

That music...it's a remix of the 3rd gen Gym Battle theme, right? Wonder what that could mean...

Oh and challenge mode ftw
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (Out in Japan!)

Postby dkanddiddy » 21 Jun 2012 11:05

anyone know if Pokemon B/W 2 is a game 3ds owners can download from the eshop? because i know some new games like Paper Mario: Sticker Star will be available to download once they come out.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (Out in Japan!)

Postby CrispyGoomba » 21 Jun 2012 11:41

dkanddiddy wrote:anyone know if Pokemon B/W 2 is a game 3ds owners can download from the eshop? because i know some new games like Paper Mario: Sticker Star will be available to download once they come out.


No, Pokemon B/W 2 is a DS game, not a 3DS. Where as Paper Mario: Sticker Star is a 3DS. They don't have plans to have DS games for download in the e-shop and probably never will.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (Out in Japan!)

Postby MegaMan64 » 21 Jun 2012 11:48

Wow. Nintendo is really going out all out for this sequel. Now we just need a NA release date.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 announced for DS

Postby Mirr0rR3flection » 21 Jun 2012 15:21

KingBroly wrote:- Both games have DIFFICULTY SETTINGS (Assist, Normal and Challenge) (HOLY shovel!)

Finally! A challenge in-game! I'm so happy right now. :'D
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (Out in Japan!)

Postby CrispyGoomba » 21 Jun 2012 16:03

"It is said that after completing the game, you receive a key which will switch the game between three difficulties. Normal, Assist which lowers the difficulty and Challenge which increases it. We have no confirmation for this yet" - Coming from Serebii

I figured at the beginning at the game you could choose a difficulty. But what does this feature serve? You're pretty much in post-play stuff now. Unless you can restart and play at a higher diff., but still, who would want to do that?
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (Out in Japan!)

Postby AdamM » 22 Jun 2012 14:31

Yeah, I kind of wish the difficulty settings were available before you started the game, but at least the post game stuff will have them. And it's a step in the right direction, so hopefully the next Pokemon games will offer difficulty settings from the start. But then again, GameFreak has taken out random features for no reason before, like Pokemon following you in post HG/SS games and the Battle Frontier being absent from Diamond/Pearl.

But on a more positive note, people are starting to post the soundtrack up on Youtube, and I'm already falling in love with it. I thought the original Black/White had a pretty good soundtrack, but this one is even better to me. Can't wait for this game to come out in North America.
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Re: Pokemon Black 2 & White 2 (Out in Japan!)

Postby led-naruto » 15 Jul 2012 02:53

I kind of don't know which game to get, since I liked being on the side of ideals (and Zekrom)...

So, I should get Black 2 instead of White 2?
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