Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

[motherbra1n]

same user name problem is eliminated in a modern system that separates account name from display name. you have your name 'bob' and the system just throws a bob+number that way you don't have to display things like xxxbobxxx12342. you would just tell your friend, add me, my nintendotag (like blizzards battletag, that operates this way) is bob7. or just add from recently played or whatever.

But I don't want to have numbers in neither of those, and I'm sure other people doesn't want that. :p

And I'll just use your last statement for my argument: you may just add from recently played... or whatever.

@motherbra1n, I just told you why it's not that big of a deal; it may sound efficient to you but it's not that worth of a problem.
You're overreacting just because I forgot to put a "," just after "minute". I didn't mention about the reply of the other person, because that sounds really stupid to be done in under a minute.
I was talking about any jerk that puts its username to be really offensive to other people, and the network wouldn't notice this.

So if it's the cellphone number of Iwata you jump into conclusions?

@CrispyGoomba, I play the 3DS often, and you apparently missunderstand me. I'm just stating that the friend codes aren't that bad; and honestly they would be worse, but people are picky. I would rather remember a 12 digit number, it doesn't make me lazier, and another option would be being logical and write it down.

New Edit: and seriously guys, you just saw a concept of how the Nintendo Network works, that doesn't say anything about friend codes.

That's a terrible excuse, it's just as possible to have an offensive screen name on wii games as it would be with usernames. and really who gives a damn, you stumbled across someone online with an immature name, whooptido, you're not gonna lose sleep over it. and what do you mean im overreacting about your ","?

it may sound efficient to me? No it does not sound efficient to me, it IS efficient to not just me but the rest of the world. Once again, please tell me how friendcodes are just as if not more efficient without resorting to the "stop being picky" or "you're just ranting for the sake of it". Give some legitimate reasons as to why friendcodes are better, because so far you've failed to do so.

"But I don't want to have numbers in neither of those, and I'm sure other people doesn't want that. :p"
oh dear the tragedy of having motherbra1n1993 instead of motherbra1n, if only they'd scrap the whole system and give me 5849-3945-4950 so I can get over the fact that my username had 4 digits at the end

[Broken_Cartridge]

I just want to put my 2 cents on the topic and then I'll leave it be.

The friend code can legitimately work on the 3DS, because it's a portable and you are meant to carry it around everywhere. If I don't recall my friend code (which I don't) I just can share it with someone I meet on the fly because I carry it with me wherever I go (or sync up quickly and skip the process).

Now for the real problem. Friend codes with consoles. I can't remember friend codes. I can't, but let's hypothetically say I meet someone and I say my friend code is 8989-7465-6339 and they tell me their friend code is 2345-8742-6974 the odds of us both remembering the code and being able to input it on our systems is slim to none. (thus requiring "oh, what was your friend code again, I forgot it" conversation). Also, remember that you don't get friend invites with friend codes. You both have to enter in the code for it to work. No person that is capable of logical thought could ever think that Friend Codes are great for consoles. I'm serious. I can tell someone my Xbox Live Gamertag is Chick Fil A Kid (or that my PSN name is Stephen5543) and we never have to write each others information down or have to worry about some information getting lost along the way. Sure if you want to nitpick it, someone could mess up a Gamertag or a PSN name, but it's nowhere near as bad as the possibilities of messing someones friend code up. It's annoying.

Yes, that may seem ranty, but it's real concerns and problems that friend codes face. With that said, I'd be extremely surprised if Nintendo had a Friend Code system in place on the Wii U (especially based off of what we saw today) So these kinds of arguments are pointless anyways.

Edit: As for family settings....you know there is a such thing as Parental Controls right? Nintendo could make said features more strict if they wanted to, but why make all gamers suffer....

[vinniebrock]

Kingbroly they've completely dodged the question of friendcodes which can only lead me to believe that they still exist.

http://youtu.be/9AkPdAWfFjI?t=17m51s

Doesn't mention friend codes or usernames/gamertags/whatever, but he does explicitly imply separate accounts on the system.

[led-naruto]

That's a terrible excuse, it's just as possible to have an offensive screen name on wii games as it would be with usernames. and really who gives a damn, you stumbled across someone online with an immature name, whooptido, you're not gonna lose sleep over it. and what do you mean im overreacting about your ","?

it may sound efficient to me? No it does not sound efficient to me, it IS efficient to not just me but the rest of the world. Once again, please tell me how friendcodes are just as if not more efficient without resorting to the "stop being picky" or "you're just ranting for the sake of it". Give some legitimate reasons as to why friendcodes are better, because so far you've failed to do so.

"But I don't want to have numbers in neither of those, and I'm sure other people doesn't want that. :p"
oh dear the tragedy of having motherbra1n1993 instead of motherbra1n, if only they'd scrap the whole system and give me 5849-3945-4950 so I can get over the fact that my username had 4 digits at the end

You may think it's terrible, but you're not thinking as a family company. I'm not sure where you have been all these years, but one thing for sure is that Nintendo is overprotective. They don't care about you as an individual, but as a collective audience for their market, so they're just not thinking about you, but about every consumer. I said it would take in less than a minute to JUST check your friend code, not about typing it and wait for the other's response, but I didn't put a comma there so you may have missunderstood it.

And you have failed to say any good and valid argument of why friend codes are that bad to you. I said just a post above they aren't bad. Where did I say they were better? I prefer them from usernames because of my interests but I didn't say they were better. I have been telling you they're not bad.

Well, whatever pleases the crowd, I don't want numbers in my username, and you don't want to write down some simple numbers. And you haven't seen how the Wii U works, so this all seems pointless, you worry too much.

[Devil_Rising]

I suppose my post was unread.

Friend codes are gone.

You'll find that people do far more ranting than they do paying attention in these forums.

[Sailing_Day]

You may think it's terrible, but you're not thinking as a family company. I'm not sure where you have been all these years, but one thing for sure is that Nintendo is overprotective. They don't care about you as an individual, but as a collective audience for their market, so they're just not thinking about you, but about every consumer. I said it would take in less than a minute to JUST check your friend code, not about typing it and wait for the other's response, but I didn't put a comma there so you may have missunderstood it.

And you have failed to say any good and valid argument of why friend codes are that bad to you. I said just a post above they aren't bad. Where did I say they were better? I prefer them from usernames because of my interests but I didn't say they were better. I have been telling you they're not bad.

Well, whatever pleases the crowd, I don't want numbers in my username, and you don't want to write down some simple numbers. And you haven't seen how the Wii U works, so this all seems pointless, you worry too much.

Uh... Parental controls? Problem solved...

Here's an argument: having to remember a 12-digit code is much, much more of a hassle than a username that you can easily remember. Having to put numbers in front of it is not that big of a deal. And if you don't like the numbers, just pick something original so you don't have to...

It's okay if you just love the hassle of having to remember a bunch of numbers, but you're a very, very small minority, friend.

[led-naruto]

You may think it's terrible, but you're not thinking as a family company. I'm not sure where you have been all these years, but one thing for sure is that Nintendo is overprotective. They don't care about you as an individual, but as a collective audience for their market, so they're just not thinking about you, but about every consumer. I said it would take in less than a minute to JUST check your friend code, not about typing it and wait for the other's response, but I didn't put a comma there so you may have missunderstood it.

And you have failed to say any good and valid argument of why friend codes are that bad to you. I said just a post above they aren't bad. Where did I say they were better? I prefer them from usernames because of my interests but I didn't say they were better. I have been telling you they're not bad.

Well, whatever pleases the crowd, I don't want numbers in my username, and you don't want to write down some simple numbers. And you haven't seen how the Wii U works, so this all seems pointless, you worry too much.

Uh... Parental controls? Problem solved...

Here's an argument: having to remember a 12-digit code is much, much more of a hassle than a username that you can easily remember. Having to put numbers in front of it is not that big of a deal. And if you don't like the numbers, just pick something original so you don't have to...

It's okay if you just love the hassle of having to remember a bunch of numbers, but you're a very, very small minority, friend.

I know about Parental Controls but I also know some parents are dumb enough to not activate them, hence why I'm saying this.

I was being silly about putting numbers in a username, but if you want a counter argument, some people just want to play without caring about having an original name.

Other users already mentioned about the system not having friend codes, so it's already pointless to talk about the negativity of having them.

[gtt]

Kingbroly they've completely dodged the question of friendcodes which can only lead me to believe that they still exist.

http://youtu.be/9AkPdAWfFjI?t=17m51s

Doesn't mention friend codes or usernames/gamertags/whatever, but he does explicitly imply separate accounts on the system.

that would be profiles. not actual accounts. They need to shore up their message, and no offense to iwata, get someone who speaks english well to explain in the US.

[MrWu]

Kingbroly they've completely dodged the question of friendcodes which can only lead me to believe that they still exist.

http://youtu.be/9AkPdAWfFjI?t=17m51s

Doesn't mention friend codes or usernames/gamertags/whatever, but he does explicitly imply separate accounts on the system.

that would be profiles. not actual accounts. They need to shore up their message, and no offense to iwata, get someone who speaks english well to explain in the US.

How do you have profiles meant for the Miiverse to work accross several platforms and not have an account?

This is an extension of our other conversation, but I think you can be pessimistic or realistic about their implementation and not sound like you want to look for excuses to hate something.

Not saying you are, but it's come accross that way on multiple posts youve made today.

[gtt]

How do you have profiles meant for the Miiverse to work accross several platforms and not have an account?

This is an extension of our other conversation, but I think you can be pessimistic or realistic about their implementation and not sound like you want to look for excuses to hate something.

Not saying you are, but it's come accross that way on multiple posts youve made today.

If anyone could find a way to do that and not have an actual account system, it's nintendo. they are currently going out of their way to avoid it, in fact. club nintendo functions perfectly well, in fact it keeps track of your digital purchases perfectly well. they have the software and know-how working right this second. they have chosen to not use it to allow us to easily transfer digital content.

It's basically my one sticking point, they either get a proper account system, or my chances of actually buying this system go waaaaay down. I'm done being stuck in 1998 with them. Someone needs to finally drag japanese software development and design into 2012. and I hope nintendo is the one to do it.

and I guess I'm tired of sony and microsoft being the only ones in the console conversation for ohhh about 2 years running.

and if I sound like I'm rar mad, or hate filled, I'm not. trust me, when tuesday rolls around and we see actual software, then I'll be super happy.

[motherbra1n]

How do you have profiles meant for the Miiverse to work accross several platforms and not have an account?

This is an extension of our other conversation, but I think you can be pessimistic or realistic about their implementation and not sound like you want to look for excuses to hate something.

Not saying you are, but it's come accross that way on multiple posts youve made today.

If anyone could find a way to do that and not have an actual account system, it's nintendo. they are currently going out of their way to avoid it, in fact. club nintendo functions perfectly well, in fact it keeps track of your digital purchases perfectly well. they have the software and know-how working right this second. they have chosen to not use it to allow us to easily transfer digital content.

It's basically my one sticking point, they either get a proper account system, or my chances of actually buying this system go waaaaay down. I'm done being stuck in 1998 with them. Someone needs to finally drag japanese software development and design into 2012. and I hope nintendo is the one to do it.

and I guess I'm tired of sony and microsoft being the only ones in the console conversation for ohhh about 2 years running.

and if I sound like I'm rar mad, or hate filled, I'm not. trust me, when tuesday rolls around and we see actual software, then I'll be super happy.

If the Wii U has ANY form of friendcodes, I don't care how refined they are, I don't care if they take it down to 8 digits I don't even care if the launch lineup consists of metroid prime 4, f zero wii u, super smash bros wii u, zelda wii u, super mario 3d wii u, gta v exclusive, bioshock infinite exclusive. I will NEVER buy ANYTHING for nintendo for another 5 years unless it's used. I'll wait till I can get the Wii U used, and the same thing goes for any Wii U exclusive games. It doesn't matter what they show on tuesday, my hype for the console will completely vanish if they confirm any form of friendcodes, and believe me I will stick to my word and yes they should care.

If the Wii U has friendcodes, I'm all yours sony.

[MrWu]

If anyone could find a way to do that and not have an actual account system, it's nintendo. they are currently going out of their way to avoid it, in fact. club nintendo functions perfectly well,

Yeah I don't doubt there are multiple ways for Nintendo to fuck this up.

But ClubNintendo was never meant to be a Miiverse level account system though I can easily seeing it being integrated into the Miiverse when the web portion goes live. The point I'm making is that their concept for the Miiverse requires accounts.

Much respect for you. I think you're expecting the worst to avoid disappointment, but I think you're looking at the wrong place.

There's plenty else to worry about in terms of future proofing and if they will get a 2nd Wii U GamePad supported.

[gtt]

If anyone could find a way to do that and not have an actual account system, it's nintendo. they are currently going out of their way to avoid it, in fact. club nintendo functions perfectly well,

Yeah I don't doubt there are multiple ways for Nintendo to fuck this up.

But ClubNintendo was never meant to be a Miiverse level account system though I can easily seeing it being integrated into the Miiverse when the web portion goes live. The point I'm making is that their concept for the Miiverse requires accounts.

Much respect for you. I think you're expecting the worst to avoid disappointment, but I think you're looking at the wrong place.

There's plenty else to worry about in terms of future proofing and if they will get a 2nd Wii U GamePad supported.

I guess the issue is, they have it there, they just simply choose do it backwards. it's my club nintendo account, it's linked to my hardware, my digital stuff is there in a nice list. but something happens to my wii, nintendo's choice means I have to send my system to them to get a transfer done. It's like if verizon still maintained a telegraph system some where in the cell network just because they are afraid of radio waves. and make no mistake, before now, nintendo was deathly afraid of the internet.

[motherbra1n]

everything we saw today was fantastic, I can't think of anything they showed today which was actually bad or made me think "what the hell are you doing nintendo" (as i normally do at events like these)

The only problem was what we didn't see and the questions we still have. By the end of tuesday I want a concrete answer, does the wii u have friendcodes or not? Talking about accounts and what not dodges the question, who's to say that you can't have both accounts and friendcodes?

[gtt]

everything we saw today was fantastic, I can't think of anything they showed today which was actually bad or made me think "what the hell are you doing nintendo" (as i normally do at events like these)

The only problem was what we didn't see and the questions we still have. By the end of tuesday I want a concrete answer, does the wii u have friendcodes or not? Talking about accounts and what not dodges the question, who's to say that you can't have both accounts and friendcodes?

While I wouldn't say fantastic it was just... meh. and yea, I get the feeling they aren't answering questions about some real key features because they don't want a bad reaction.

by the end of e3, if we don't have the answers to the key questions, that's a bad sign.

[MrWu]

everything we saw today was fantastic, I can't think of anything they showed today which was actually bad or made me think "what the hell are you doing nintendo" (as i normally do at events like these)

The only problem was what we didn't see and the questions we still have. By the end of tuesday I want a concrete answer, does the wii u have friendcodes or not? Talking about accounts and what not dodges the question, who's to say that you can't have both accounts and friendcodes?

While I wouldn't say fantastic it was just... meh. and yea, I get the feeling they aren't answering questions about some real key features because they don't want a bad reaction.

by the end of e3, if we don't have the answers to the key questions, that's a bad sign.

To be fair GTT, this was a concept reveal. Iwata wasn't holding a twitter Q&A and somehow we never got an answer on the friendcodes/account thing.

If they dodge at the E3 press junkets where I'm sure the question will come up, then I owe you a coke.

But until then, I too much chicken-littling isn't good for your health

[gtt]

everything we saw today was fantastic, I can't think of anything they showed today which was actually bad or made me think "what the hell are you doing nintendo" (as i normally do at events like these)

The only problem was what we didn't see and the questions we still have. By the end of tuesday I want a concrete answer, does the wii u have friendcodes or not? Talking about accounts and what not dodges the question, who's to say that you can't have both accounts and friendcodes?

While I wouldn't say fantastic it was just... meh. and yea, I get the feeling they aren't answering questions about some real key features because they don't want a bad reaction.

by the end of e3, if we don't have the answers to the key questions, that's a bad sign.

To be fair GTT, this was a concept reveal. Iwata wasn't holding a twitter Q&A and somehow we never got an answer on the friendcodes/account thing.

If they dodge at the E3 press junkets where I'm sure the question will come up, then I owe you a coke.

But until then, I too much chicken-littling isn't good for your health

I know, I know. It's just, I've been down this road before. Here's hoping for the best!

[KingBroly]

everything we saw today was fantastic, I can't think of anything they showed today which was actually bad or made me think "what the hell are you doing nintendo" (as i normally do at events like these)

The only problem was what we didn't see and the questions we still have. By the end of tuesday I want a concrete answer, does the wii u have friendcodes or not? Talking about accounts and what not dodges the question, who's to say that you can't have both accounts and friendcodes?

I think you mean by the end of Wednesday. Nintendo decided to to take their water bill up from $0 to $1080 this month.

[led-naruto]

I know, I know. It's just, I've been down this road before. Here's hoping for the best!

If it makes you feel any better, you can post something to Nintendo's twitter and hope for the man himself answer you.

[motherbra1n]

I know, I know. It's just, I've been down this road before. Here's hoping for the best!

just remember, whatever happens, we've experienced much worse, cos this cannot possibly be worse than 2008.

and for those who are hungry for some G4 styled comedy I have you covered https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 890&type=1

[CrispyGoomba]

I know, I know. It's just, I've been down this road before. Here's hoping for the best!

just remember, whatever happens, we've experienced much worse, cos this cannot possibly be worse than 2008.

and for those who are hungry for some G4 styled comedy I have you covered https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 890&type=1

So, what is your mood, motherbra1n? Hehehe

[Wonks]

everything we saw today was fantastic, I can't think of anything they showed today which was actually bad or made me think "what the hell are you doing nintendo" (as i normally do at events like these)

I agree. ...Well, maybe the "Call me Grandpa!" part. I felt a little embarrassed to be watching that.

The only problem was what we didn't see and the questions we still have. By the end of tuesday I want a concrete answer, does the wii u have friendcodes or not? Talking about accounts and what not dodges the question, who's to say that you can't have both accounts and friendcodes?

I know what you mean--that part confuses me, too. I've always thought Nintendo would have friend codes for things like video chat, due to their family-oriented nature, but the video definitely made it seem as if you could talk to just about anyone... One more day I guess, eh?

[Devil_Rising]

As a grown, 30 year old man, who has been gaming most of my life, I didn't find anything "embarrassing" about that silly skit whatsoever. What, are some of you people afraid that some of your "hardcore" gamer friends were peaking over your shoulder, and are gonna make fun of you because they caught you watching something that, god forbid, was silly on purpose, and not drenched in testosterone? Please. It was a just a skit. And quite frankly, it was kind of funny.



As for friend codes.....have we not already established that it was confirmed there wouldn't be any?

[Jazzy]

Naaaah, that skit was pretty much awful. Terrible jokes, terrible acting, just embarrassing. Just painful. I liked when Iwata was like "Well that was something different..." Yeah, it was different alright.

Other than that...nice controller, nothing amazing. I like how they're focusing on connecting people even more. I like the in-game notes feature and the screenshot sharing. But really, is that it, of all the things we don't know? The Miiverse seems cool and all but I wanted to know more. I want to know how the home menu will look and stuff, what channels there'll be, if any. I want in-game voice chat. I don't give a crap about a browser or video chat feature, because these are things everyone's computer can do anyway. Is this seriously all the big Wii U information we're going to get before it launches?

I just want to know more, because I'm not feeling anywhere near as excited as I was for previous consoles. Perhaps that will change when they show off more games.

[ddddd]

Turns out that at the very last moment I got confirmation of a full day job tomorrow and miss the conference live
Avoiding spoilers will be near impossible. Hopefully I can find some place to watch it when I arrive... Maybe nintendo FB or twitter?