Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

[Broken_Cartridge]

Look at figures 32 and 33 on the patents.....it's a smaller Wii Upad. I know that a patent for something doesn't mean it will happen, but I didn't even know that they were trying to make smaller ones.

[Gulshog]

You can tell we are getting close to E3...people are starting to spill the beans. Small stuff, yeah...but interesting, nonetheless.

[motherbra1n]

ever so slightly off topic but Gametrailers have already started their E3 bonus round and they started it off with microsoft. The second half of it is just them giving microsoft what I like to call, the Nintendo treatment, just not as harsh. Nintendo should have their turn in 2 weeks

[KingBroly]

ever so slightly off topic but Gametrailers have already started their E3 bonus round and they started it off with microsoft. The second half of it is just them giving microsoft what I like to call, the Nintendo treatment, just not as harsh. Nintendo should have their turn in 2 weeks

I'm guessing they expect Microsoft to give them free consoles like they did 2 years ago and are sour that Sony and Nintendo won't do the same.

[ddddd]

Will Unreal Engine 4 land on wiiu? The lattest comment by Epic is kinda missleading. If it is an engine that will work on mobile devices then it should work on wiiu (it has UE3 already)

Then there is this:

But that same source has also commented on Epic's comments from yesterday too

"Watch man, people are going to be blown away by the Wii U news."

So how ever you wish to take the info, with or without salt... or perhaps not at all, E3 should be really good this year. One that I'm sure I will never forget at least.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=4830

Regardless, logic says it should work, with some/lots of stuffs out compared to 720/PS4, but it should be there. I would be surprised if it was not supported (Im guessing "blown away" is for good news this time)

[LegendofZelda1996]

Hello everyone. Today, I found some Wii U controller patents thanks to Disorientator, a user in NeoGAF. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=6247

So, here are the patents in numerical order:
1.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0009
2.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0010
3.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0011
4.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0012
5.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0013
6.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0014
7.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0015
8.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0016

I think that this is not the representative of the final Wii U controller design since the Wii U controller design might have been changed (significant changes or minor changes).

[motherbra1n]

Hello everyone. Today, I found some Wii U controller patents thanks to Disorientator, a user in NeoGAF. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=6247

So, here are the patents in numerical order:
1.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0009
2.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0010
3.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0011
4.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0012
5.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0013
6.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0014
7.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0015
8.) http://esearch.oami.europa.eu/copla/des ... 58232-0016

I think that this is not the representative of the final Wii U controller design since the Wii U controller design might have been changed (significant changes or minor changes).

yay analog sticks
I hope so at least...

[LegendofZelda1996]

yay analog sticks
I hope so at least...

I think it might be a combination of the analog stick and the Circle Pad as shown in the picture below, motherbra1n.


But I would recommend you to not to get your hopes up since Nintendo may disappoint you and many people with high expectations at their E3 2012 presentations.

[ddddd]

The patent was made to demostrate the functionality of the system and the tablet. That design likely has little resemblance to the actual controller.
While the patent does show sticks, it could be just so the people reading it will know what they are looking at, also the patent will try to be as diverse as possible, so it will mention stuffs like "sticks" "capacitive" and "multitouch" just so other people cannot patent something just a bit different.

[gtt]

I want to ask you guys a question.

I remember after E3 2011, people are certain that the Wii U uses a custom Radeon HD 4850 GPU → http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/14/wii-u ... still-pre/

And now, people in NeoGAF are speculating that the Wii U will use a custom Radeon HD 7570 GPU → http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=7756.

And when compared to the TDPs of both the XBOX 720 & the PlayStation 4, the TDP of the Wii U seems pretty significantly low → http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=7854.

Is it possible that Nintendo could be using a custom GPU similar to a Radeon HD 7570 in specs for the Wii U? I think this is 100% speculation, so please take this as a grain of salt!

I think that chip would cost them too much money per unit. the only rumor that I believe 100% is the one that says nintendo's focus is how to get this machine as cheap to build as possible to make sure it is profitable hardware-wise day 1.

[ddddd]

Has Homefront 2 (Crytek x THQ) ever been fully confirmed to have a wiiu version?

Ive recently seen it mentioned because of the recent crytek rumor (both rumors clash with eachother) but I didnt knew it was even rumored until now.

[LegendofZelda1996]

Has Homefront 2 (Crytek x THQ) ever been fully confirmed to have a wiiu version?

According to THQ's official press release, Homefront 2 is developed for the PC and the consoles. But it does not say Homefront 2 is developed for the Wii U probably due to NDAs. http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/20/homef ... by-crytek/

[big fat turtle]

I want to ask you guys a question.

I remember after E3 2011, people are certain that the Wii U uses a custom Radeon HD 4850 GPU → http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/14/wii-u ... still-pre/

And now, people in NeoGAF are speculating that the Wii U will use a custom Radeon HD 7570 GPU → http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=7756.

And when compared to the TDPs of both the XBOX 720 & the PlayStation 4, the TDP of the Wii U seems pretty significantly low → http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=7854.

Is it possible that Nintendo could be using a custom GPU similar to a Radeon HD 7570 in specs for the Wii U? I think this is 100% speculation, so please take this as a grain of salt!

I think that chip would cost them too much money per unit. the only rumor that I believe 100% is the one that says nintendo's focus is how to get this machine as cheap to build as possible to make sure it is profitable hardware-wise day 1.

oh nooooooooooo not again!!!!
please enough with these shananagins !!
iwata said they may sell it for a loss and with Nintendo s recent loss not seen in about 20 years
im willing to wager this thing is not cheap with its high R&D
please GTT for the love of god its not an OVERCLOCKED WII!!!!

[LegendofZelda1996]

oh nooooooooooo not again!!!!
please enough with these shananagins !!
iwata said they may sell it for a loss and with Nintendo s recent loss not seen in about 20 years
im willing to wager this thing is not cheap with its high R&D
please GTT for the love of god its not an OVERCLOCKED WII!!!!

@big fat turtle

I think what gtt meant by Nintendo making the Wii U cheap as possible is that the Wii U will be on par with the XBOX 360 & PlayStation 3 in terms of power which I don't think Nintendo would do unless suddenly, Nintendo doesn't give a s**t about third party support on the Wii U anymore. And I think Nintendo sort of knows that third party developers like to work with powerful consoles.

[big fat turtle]

oh nooooooooooo not again!!!!
please enough with these shananagins !!
iwata said they may sell it for a loss and with Nintendo s recent loss not seen in about 20 years
im willing to wager this thing is not cheap with its high R&D
please GTT for the love of god its not an OVERCLOCKED WII!!!!

@big fat turtle

I think what gtt meant by Nintendo making the Wii U cheap as possible is that the Wii U will be on par with the XBOX 360 & PlayStation 3 in terms of power which I don't think Nintendo would do unless suddenly, Nintendo doesn't give a s**t about third party support on the Wii U anymore. And I think Nintendo sort of knows that third party developers like to work with powerful consoles.

in that case that's plain crazy !
that wouldn't make sense even they would have to go out of their way to make it on par, it wouldn't make a financial sense or a business sense either
here it is in another way to clarify its impossible that its weaker or on par or slightly above the 360
the GameCube technology is based on 1999 right?
the Xbox 360 is based on 2005 technology right?
the Wii u will be based in 2010 tech
that's a difference between 10 years apart from the game cube and a 5 year difference between the Wii u and the 360 !
also keep in mind the Wii didn't get third party games because of its old architecture while the Wii u will have a modern
architecture and everything the 720 or the PS4 can do can be done on the Wii u!
so the only problem you have to worry about is finding third party's willing to support it and that is a heavy duty for Nintendo.

[Gulshog]

I stayed away from the news about a week, but I'm back in, and will probably be glued to NeoGAF, and GoNintendo until E3, which is getting so close! I can't wait to see just what Nintendo has in store. I was so underwhelmed last year, the presentation was pretty bad. But, I think they just got excited themselves about the prospects of the new console, and wanted to get the word out to everyone that a newer, more powerful machine was coming.

But, with that said, I'm not taking the day off to watch it. I am hoping it will be good, though. I think they just did not have much ready, and with a full year of hard work, there should be plenty to show off this year. I may regret not watching it live, but I was so burned last year, I just can't do that two years in a row. So, I hope they surprise me with a good E3 show.

Third party stuff will be interesting, I really want X-Com to come to WiiU. I really want to play that with the Upad being implemented...that would be awesome. First party stuff, as always is what I'm after, and I was reminded of Good Feel today reading NeoGAF. Wario Land: Shake It, was just too good! Haven't checked out Epic Yarn, but the animation in Wario was nice! I hope they have a launch title, or at least something to show, for an early WiiU game. So, Retro, Good Feel, Monolith, and Intelligent Systems are who I want to see games from the most. Of course, any news on the next Mario 3D (Galaxy/Universe/whatever) will be nice.

[LegendofZelda1996]

in that case that's plain crazy !
that wouldn't make sense even they would have to go out of their way to make it on par, it wouldn't make a financial sense or a business sense either
here it is in another way to clarify its impossible that its weaker or on par or slightly above the 360
the GameCube technology is based on 1999 right?
the Xbox 360 is based on 2005 technology right?
the Wii u will be based in 2010 tech
that's a difference between 10 years apart from the game cube and a 5 year difference between the Wii u and the 360 !
also keep in mind the Wii didn't get third party games because of its old architecture while the Wii u will have a modern
architecture and everything the 720 or the PS4 can do can be done on the Wii u!
so the only problem you have to worry about is finding third party's willing to support it and that is a heavy duty for Nintendo.

@big fat turtle

Third party support on the Wii U is not the only thing I'm worried about the Wii U. I'm also worried about how good the online infrastructure on the Wii U, because nowadays, there's a heavy emphasis on a good online infrastructure on video games consoles. And if the Wii U can't have a good online infrastructure at launch, I don't know how third party developers and core gamers can be attracted to the Wii U.

[Jack_Atlas]

in that case that's plain crazy !
that wouldn't make sense even they would have to go out of their way to make it on par, it wouldn't make a financial sense or a business sense either
here it is in another way to clarify its impossible that its weaker or on par or slightly above the 360
the GameCube technology is based on 1999 right?
the Xbox 360 is based on 2005 technology right?
the Wii u will be based in 2010 tech
that's a difference between 10 years apart from the game cube and a 5 year difference between the Wii u and the 360 !
also keep in mind the Wii didn't get third party games because of its old architecture while the Wii u will have a modern
architecture and everything the 720 or the PS4 can do can be done on the Wii u!
so the only problem you have to worry about is finding third party's willing to support it and that is a heavy duty for Nintendo.

@big fat turtle

Third party support on the Wii U is not the only thing I'm worried about the Wii U. I'm also worried about how good the online infrastructure on the Wii U, because nowadays, there's a heavy emphasis on a good online infrastructure on video games consoles. And if the Wii U can't have a good online infrastructure at launch, I don't know how third party developers and core gamers can be attracted to the Wii U.

Honestly, this is where I think I fail in life so hard right now. At my local Kid Icarus Uprising demo meeting, the Nintendo rep hosting it, who just so happened to be looking for intelligent players to get information on upcoming products like the Wii U, Mario Tennis open, Spirit camera, etc for Nintendo,that I met at the earlier events.

I end up over sleeping and did not get to go to yesterday's event to make the point that Nintendo needed to strike a deal with the owners of steam [Valve] like the earlier rumors were saying. So that Wii exclusive gamers could play the AAA games that appeared only on the HD twins on the Wii U as a download.

I honestly think that would be the right step in an online infrastructure that would show Nintendo is not as cheap as everyone thinks and claims.

[Broken_Cartridge]

Saying that Nintendo is going to put in parts that are cheaper then what they are going to sell it at is not saying the company is cheap, it's what businesses do. Nintendo has not stated that they will sell the Wii U at a loss, they've actually stated that the Wii U is going to make up for the losses that they've been experiencing recently (along with them starting to make money off of the 3DS come September...which probably means a remodel is on the way).

Also a good online infrastructure will prove nothing in regards to how cheap a company is. At least, it won't to most people. The bulk of things that are needed for it to have good online are things that they need to do on a firmware side of things.....and again, nobody is saying that Nintendo is cheap. Just sayin.

[gtt]

Saying that Nintendo is going to put in parts that are cheaper then what they are going to sell it at is not saying the company is cheap, it's what businesses do. Nintendo has not stated that they will sell the Wii U at a loss, they've actually stated that the Wii U is going to make up for the losses that they've been experiencing recently (along with them starting to make money off of the 3DS come September...which probably means a remodel is on the way).

Also a good online infrastructure will prove nothing in regards to how cheap a company is. At least, it won't to most people. The bulk of things that are needed for it to have good online are things that they need to do on a firmware side of things.....and again, nobody is saying that Nintendo is cheap. Just sayin.

it's more than just 'firmware' it's server infrastructure, it's not using shovel network parts in their hardware, it's paying good software people, it's so many things.

[Broken_Cartridge]

Saying that Nintendo is going to put in parts that are cheaper then what they are going to sell it at is not saying the company is cheap, it's what businesses do. Nintendo has not stated that they will sell the Wii U at a loss, they've actually stated that the Wii U is going to make up for the losses that they've been experiencing recently (along with them starting to make money off of the 3DS come September...which probably means a remodel is on the way).

Also a good online infrastructure will prove nothing in regards to how cheap a company is. At least, it won't to most people. The bulk of things that are needed for it to have good online are things that they need to do on a firmware side of things.....and again, nobody is saying that Nintendo is cheap. Just sayin.

it's more than just 'firmware' it's server infrastructure, it's not using shovel network parts in their hardware, it's paying good software people, it's so many things.

I know, but my main point was stating that it's not necessarily something that says the company is cheap or not.

[big fat turtle]

it seems some of you think its the servers or the infrastructure are the problem
well actually yes but there is another thing its Nintendo s negligence to spend on the online front
its just that they didn't spend as much as Microsoft or as much as valve or having good net engineers or as much as them
they didn't spend in the cube era or the Wii era this is their first .

[LegendofZelda1996]

it seems some of you think its the servers or the infrastructure are the problem
well actually yes but there is another thing its Nintendo s negligence to spend on the online front
its just that they didn't spend as much as Microsoft or as much as valve or having good net engineers or as much as them
they didn't spend in the cube era or the Wii era this is their first .

That's what I mean by the Wii U having a good online infrastructure. In order to have a good online infrastructure, you need to spend a lot of money in order to have a good online infrastructure.

[big fat turtle]

in that we agree on

[Broken_Cartridge]

I decided to back Cloudberry Kingdom on Kickstarter. With their recent update, they revealed that you can receive the Wii U version as a Pledge bonus instead of the Steam version(it says steam version in the pledge description, and they are unable to update/change the pledge descriptions). Anybody interested that has extra cash should at least check it out (if they haven't from the previous article on the site already).

Cloudberry Kingdom Kickstarter

At first glance I was not impressed by this game, but after reading more info on the kickstarter page and realizing I can set the difficulty to whatever I want....I decided it was something that I really wanted to be able to play on my Wii U (well whenever I get the Wii U that is), and that's why I decided to back this project.