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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby Devil_Rising » 03 Jun 2012 19:48

I'm not a huge fan of the fact that the Wii U Classic Controller Pro's design looks more like an Xbox controller, honestly. But it is wireless, and looks to be independent of having to have it plugged into another controller. I just wish they would have kept the original CC Pro design.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby motherbra1n » 03 Jun 2012 19:50

Kingbroly they've completely dodged the question of friendcodes which can only lead me to believe that they still exist.

Can I request a warning for you now?
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby gtt » 03 Jun 2012 19:51

Devil_Rising wrote:I'm not a huge fan of the fact that the Wii U Classic Controller Pro's design looks more like an Xbox controller, honestly. But it is wireless, and looks to be independent of having to have it plugged into another controller. I just wish they would have kept the original CC Pro design.


honestly, the 360 controller is pretty much the near best iteration of a dual stick controller there is. don't change what works. and a good nintendo dpad instead of the crap microsoft one, we're in business.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby luigi_owns » 03 Jun 2012 20:12

plus we don't have to worry about the specific cardinal issues that plagued the original classic controller pro. It was hard to do direct directions that you wanted to do, without getting messed up from time to time because the control sticks were on the bottom. control sticks being on top is proper.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby J0RdAnN » 03 Jun 2012 20:40

I'm glad nintendo learned recharge-able controllers where a must. However I'm betting Next year 's E3 Nintendo announces new Wii remotes and Nunchucks that are completely wireless and recharge.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby FelipeGonc » 03 Jun 2012 20:50

J0RdAnN wrote:I'm glad nintendo learned recharge-able controllers where a must. However I'm betting Next year 's E3 Nintendo announces new Wii remotes and Nunchucks that are completely wireless and recharge.


I don't think there's a need for the Nunchuk to be wireless, but I do think they can announce a rechargeable Wii Remote or a charging base that uses the Nunchuck port as the energy source.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby pokemaster515 » 03 Jun 2012 20:50

My hope for a wireless classic controller came true!
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But that does make me wonder, why would Nintendo release a controller with no screen in the first place? Do they not plan on selling the wiiu gamepads seperatly (maybe too expensive)? Or maybe the Wiiu won't be able to support multiple gamepads at once :cry: (why else would they need a screenless one?). I'm also wondering if classic controller will be able to detect motion. Oh well, I guess i'll find out one day...
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 03 Jun 2012 20:54

motherbra1n wrote:Kingbroly they've completely dodged the question of friendcodes which can only lead me to believe that they still exist.

Can I request a warning for you now?


Sadly, you missed the video chat part, where they were referring to one another as screen names, no friend codes.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby motherbra1n » 03 Jun 2012 21:13

KingBroly wrote:
motherbra1n wrote:Kingbroly they've completely dodged the question of friendcodes which can only lead me to believe that they still exist.

Can I request a warning for you now?


Sadly, you missed the video chat part, where they were referring to one another as screen names, no friend codes.

you can still have screen names and friendcodes
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby gtt » 03 Jun 2012 21:17

motherbra1n wrote:
KingBroly wrote:
motherbra1n wrote:Kingbroly they've completely dodged the question of friendcodes which can only lead me to believe that they still exist.

Can I request a warning for you now?


Sadly, you missed the video chat part, where they were referring to one another as screen names, no friend codes.

you can still have screen names and friendcodes


that's what I'm worried about. but, I am a little optimistic on this front, because the dude acted like it was a random guy from a message board. so, fingers crossed!
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby motherbra1n » 03 Jun 2012 21:20

gtt wrote:
that's what I'm worried about. but, I am a little optimistic on this front, because the dude acted like it was a random guy from a message board. so, fingers crossed!


wait a second in the video he was referring to the grandpa as "octog123" which...well...sounds like a username I guess.

Plus the fact that you can communicate with others in the Miiverse around the world completely kills off the point of having friendcodes in the first place.

I'll be optimistic here and take it as a confirmation
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby led-naruto » 03 Jun 2012 21:22

motherbra1n wrote:
KingBroly wrote:
motherbra1n wrote:Kingbroly they've completely dodged the question of friendcodes which can only lead me to believe that they still exist.

Can I request a warning for you now?


Sadly, you missed the video chat part, where they were referring to one another as screen names, no friend codes.

you can still have screen names and friendcodes


So? friend codes are just contacts, like in the 3DS. That doesn't affect the new concept you saw in the video.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby motherbra1n » 03 Jun 2012 22:02

led-naruto wrote:
So? friend codes are just contacts, like in the 3DS. That doesn't affect the new concept you saw in the video.


no friendcodes are not the same as contacts/phone numbers, you know that just as well as I do so please stop convincing yourself otherwise. I know that some of you feel the need to defend every single thing that nintendo do with your dear lives but You know deep down that usernames are infinitely better than friendcodes and by convincing yourself and nintendo that friendcodes are ok they'll carry on using crap like that and that damages everything about nintendo and just irritates their fanbase.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby vinniebrock » 03 Jun 2012 22:05

Did expect that level of social integration. Consider me impressed. Social network functionality with a Nintendo twist, too. A bit more hyped than i was already... somehow. EDIT: universal remote ftw. I can take my game elsewhere, AND turn off any crap that someone else is watching. Win-win.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby TheViper » 03 Jun 2012 22:12

No friend codes. They are gone.

Even the 3DS dropped individual friend codes for system wide friend codes. With individual user accounts on a single console, a console code system wouldn't work. And it would be really weird for Nintendo to go forward from Wii to 3DS and then go backwards again with Wii U.

Besides, developers that are working closely with Nintendo on the online services are doing so under the impression that the system will not utilize friend codes. If Nintendo were implementing friend codes again, those developers would have change they way they plan to do account session validation, account association and lots of other things.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby led-naruto » 03 Jun 2012 22:28

motherbra1n wrote:
led-naruto wrote:
So? friend codes are just contacts, like in the 3DS. That doesn't affect the new concept you saw in the video.


no friendcodes are not the same as contacts/phone numbers, you know that just as well as I do so please stop convincing yourself otherwise. I know that some of you feel the need to defend every single thing that nintendo do with your dear lives but You know deep down that usernames are infinitely better than friendcodes and by convincing yourself and nintendo that friendcodes are ok they'll carry on using crap like that and that damages everything about nintendo and just irritates their fanbase.


No, I don't know as well as you do, because I don't know why you're so against of them. And no, I'm not defending the company, I'm stating against something you're attacking so much in every part of the website I see.

I have stated why friend codes don't mean harm, because they ARE codes for contacts, like the 3DS. And so far I haven't seen any valid argument of yours about this, just pure rants.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby motherbra1n » 03 Jun 2012 22:41

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motherbra1n wrote:
led-naruto wrote:
So? friend codes are just contacts, like in the 3DS. That doesn't affect the new concept you saw in the video.


no friendcodes are not the same as contacts/phone numbers, you know that just as well as I do so please stop convincing yourself otherwise. I know that some of you feel the need to defend every single thing that nintendo do with your dear lives but You know deep down that usernames are infinitely better than friendcodes and by convincing yourself and nintendo that friendcodes are ok they'll carry on using crap like that and that damages everything about nintendo and just irritates their fanbase.


No, I don't know as well as you do, because I don't know why you're so against of them. And no, I'm not defending the company, I'm stating against something you're attacking so much in every part of the website I see.

I have stated why friend codes don't mean harm, because they ARE codes for contacts, like the 3DS. And so far I haven't seen any valid argument of yours about this, just pure rants.


so tell me your 3DS friendcode off the top of your head, because I can do that with psn account, but not any of my friendcodes.
the only long numbers that I ever want to have to remember in my life are my house and mobile phone numbers, if I somehow happen to learn someone elses number then that's great, but I will never remember my 3DS or Wii friend code off the top of my head.

I'll always have to go through the long process of checking my 3DS, texting my friend my friendcode, waiting for him/her to text back their friend code, input the friendcode, wait for the damn thing to recognise that we've added each other, and then FINALLY I've got that person on my friends list.

On psn, all i have to do is text my friend "hey, i got a ps3, add motherbra1n", I'd get a friend request, i click accept, and thats job done.

How you could possibly think that friendcodes are just as good as usernames is beyond me and if you have any good reasons then I'm more than willing to listen.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby led-naruto » 03 Jun 2012 22:57

motherbra1n wrote:so tell me your 3DS friendcode off the top of your head, because I can do that with psn account, but not any of my friendcodes.
the only long numbers that I ever want to have to remember in my life are my house and mobile phone numbers, if I somehow happen to learn someone elses number then that's great, but I will never remember my 3DS or Wii friend code off the top of my head.

I'll always have to go through the long process of checking my 3DS, texting my friend my friendcode, waiting for him/her to text back their friend code, input the friendcode, wait for the damn thing to recognise that we've added each other, and then FINALLY I've got that person on my friends list.

On psn, all i have to do is text my friend "hey, i got a ps3, add motherbra1n", I'd get a friend request, i click accept, and thats job done.

How you could possibly think that friendcodes are just as good as usernames is beyond me and if you have any good reasons then I'm more than willing to listen.


Like I said, pure rants. Not every person is that picky, mind you, and with usernames you have the risk of inputting the same username as someone else (real original eh?) or having the network mistakenly letting an offensive word pass behind its nose. If I wanted to, I can just check the code in less than a minute and pass it to someone, and that would be at the same moment someone is asking my code.

And I repeat, they are just numbers for your contacts, private contacts mainly. And with the video just shown the possibilities of registering an x person as a friend request is high, so that's not a problem either. So why the big deal with friend codes? We haven't seen the full capabilities of Nintendo Network, and you are already jumping into conclusions.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby gtt » 03 Jun 2012 23:06

led-naruto wrote:
motherbra1n wrote:so tell me your 3DS friendcode off the top of your head, because I can do that with psn account, but not any of my friendcodes.
the only long numbers that I ever want to have to remember in my life are my house and mobile phone numbers, if I somehow happen to learn someone elses number then that's great, but I will never remember my 3DS or Wii friend code off the top of my head.

I'll always have to go through the long process of checking my 3DS, texting my friend my friendcode, waiting for him/her to text back their friend code, input the friendcode, wait for the damn thing to recognise that we've added each other, and then FINALLY I've got that person on my friends list.

On psn, all i have to do is text my friend "hey, i got a ps3, add motherbra1n", I'd get a friend request, i click accept, and thats job done.

How you could possibly think that friendcodes are just as good as usernames is beyond me and if you have any good reasons then I'm more than willing to listen.


Like I said, pure rants. Not every person is that picky, mind you, and with usernames you have the risk of inputting the same username as someone else (real original eh?) or having the network mistakenly letting an offensive word pass behind its nose. If I wanted to, I can just check the code in less than a minute and pass it to someone, and that would be at the same moment someone is asking my code.

And I repeat, they are just numbers for your contacts, private contacts mainly. And with the video just shown the possibilities of registering an x person as a friend request is high, so that's not a problem either. So why the big deal with friend codes? We haven't seen the full capabilities of Nintendo Network, and you are already jumping into conclusions.


same user name problem is eliminated in a modern system that separates account name from display name. you have your name 'bob' and the system just throws a bob+number that way you don't have to display things like xxxbobxxx12342. you would just tell your friend, add me, my nintendotag (like blizzards battletag, that operates this way) is bob7. or just add from recently played or whatever.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 03 Jun 2012 23:09

My 3DS code is: 3351-4164-6416

Let's see if I'm right.

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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby motherbra1n » 03 Jun 2012 23:13

led-naruto wrote:
motherbra1n wrote:so tell me your 3DS friendcode off the top of your head, because I can do that with psn account, but not any of my friendcodes.
the only long numbers that I ever want to have to remember in my life are my house and mobile phone numbers, if I somehow happen to learn someone elses number then that's great, but I will never remember my 3DS or Wii friend code off the top of my head.

I'll always have to go through the long process of checking my 3DS, texting my friend my friendcode, waiting for him/her to text back their friend code, input the friendcode, wait for the damn thing to recognise that we've added each other, and then FINALLY I've got that person on my friends list.

On psn, all i have to do is text my friend "hey, i got a ps3, add motherbra1n", I'd get a friend request, i click accept, and thats job done.

How you could possibly think that friendcodes are just as good as usernames is beyond me and if you have any good reasons then I'm more than willing to listen.


Like I said, pure rants. Not every person is that picky, mind you, and with usernames you have the risk of inputting the same username as someone else (real original eh?) or having the network mistakenly letting an offensive word pass behind its nose. If I wanted to, I can just check the code in less than a minute and pass it to someone, and that would be at the same moment someone is asking my code.

And I repeat, they are just numbers for your contacts, private contacts mainly. And with the video just shown the possibilities of registering an x person as a friend request is high, so that's not a problem either. So why the big deal with friend codes? We haven't seen the full capabilities of Nintendo Network, and you are already jumping into conclusions.


what? pure rants? gimme a break, if you don't have a counter argument just say so, these are legitimate complaints about friendcodes and such problems are simply unjustifiable.

" If I wanted to, I can just check the code in less than a minute and pass it to someone, and that would be at the same moment someone is asking my code."
wow, you must be sonic the hedgehog if you can turn your 3ds on, check your friend code, text your friend the code, wait for their reply and finally input their friendcode, all in less than a minute.. So much quicker than add friend, type motherbra1n, 20 seconds later "friend request accepted".

"or having the network mistakenly letting an offensive word pass behind its nose"
what are you talking about?

I will jump to conclusions if any form of friendcodes exist (i doubt they will but im just saying that if they do exist).


KingBroly wrote:My 3DS code is: 3351-4164-6416

Let's see if I'm right.

*Looks to the right

I AM! YES!


you are joking right...?
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby CrispyGoomba » 03 Jun 2012 23:16

Whoever doesn't have a problem with Friend Codes, you apparently haven't tried playing online in the past 6 years on the Wii...or the DS/3DS at that.

And besides, would you rather remember a 12 digit number or a 12 character word?
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby motherbra1n » 03 Jun 2012 23:30

CrispyGoomba wrote:Whoever doesn't have a problem with Friend Codes, you apparently haven't tried playing online in the past 6 years on the Wii...or the DS/3DS at that.

And besides, would you rather remember a 12 digit number or a 12 character word?



if you people are so attached to your dear 12 digit friend code then you'll have the option of making this friendcode your usename (if the wii u's online supports usernames). But I know you won't because you know usernames are infinitely better than 12 digit friendcodes.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby led-naruto » 03 Jun 2012 23:33

gtt wrote:same user name problem is eliminated in a modern system that separates account name from display name. you have your name 'bob' and the system just throws a bob+number that way you don't have to display things like xxxbobxxx12342. you would just tell your friend, add me, my nintendotag (like blizzards battletag, that operates this way) is bob7. or just add from recently played or whatever.


But I don't want to have numbers in neither of those, and I'm sure other people doesn't want that. :p

And I'll just use your last statement for my argument: you may just add from recently played... or whatever.

@motherbra1n, I just told you why it's not that big of a deal; it may sound efficient to you but it's not that worth of a problem.
You're overreacting just because I forgot to put a "," just after "minute". I didn't mention about the reply of the other person, because that sounds really stupid to be done in under a minute.
I was talking about any jerk that puts its username to be really offensive to other people, and the network wouldn't notice this.

So if it's the cellphone number of Iwata you jump into conclusions?

@CrispyGoomba, I play the 3DS often, and you apparently missunderstand me. I'm just stating that the friend codes aren't that bad; and honestly they would be worse, but people are picky. I would rather remember a 12 digit number, it doesn't make me lazier, and another option would be being logical and write it down.

New Edit: and seriously guys, you just saw a concept of how the Nintendo Network works, that doesn't say anything about friend codes.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby TheViper » 03 Jun 2012 23:39

I suppose my post was unread.

Friend codes are gone.
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