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Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Steel Diver » 30 Aug 2011 10:57

This is an old article from 2008 but I could not beleive what I read.
As the writer puts it :
"I just started getting used to the fact that every gaming system I played before this my hands were connected on ONE piece of plastic and circuits. Now, I’m having my hands separated and waving around during game play like a 12-year-old kid with hyperactive disorder who just smoked PCP. I don’t want to be jumping rope with the controller, I just want to control the cool shovel that’s on the screen. This thing is a Gamecube slapped with another shovel Powerglove-like gimmick.

Nintendo seems to just be re-releasing crap that didn’t sell in the ’80s. Yet, these casual gamers are buying it for their kids. This system is nothing more than a gimmick for the kiddies. The Wii fit is the new age Power Pad and it’s pathetic that no one can see this tripe that Nintendo is feeding you. The Wii earns its spot for worst console of all time for being nothing more than a joke."

The writer ranks it worse then the Virtual Boy, Jaguar, and Phillips CDi

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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Kafei464 » 30 Aug 2011 12:45

obvious troll is obvious
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby muddy2 » 30 Aug 2011 12:45

At least there's something they're right about:
"CD-i just couldn’t catch on to what gamers needed specifically because of its terrible misconception of what a game is. A game is not a movie."
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Mako » 30 Aug 2011 13:11

Wii is my favorite home console of all time. So many great games on the system that I don't have enough time to play them all. I just wish we had a F Zero game, a Star Wars Rouge Squadron game, and a good Super Monkey Ball game similar to the first two. Obviously that guy is entitled to his opinions. If he thinks it is the worst console of all time let him. He is missing out on a great device. :P
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby cobaltorange » 30 Aug 2011 13:50

Wii isn't my favorite console(DS, PS2, Dreamcast, N64, and SNES take that crown), but it sure isn't the worst console.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby TheLastBlade » 30 Aug 2011 17:10

Ok.... They can play their virtual boys and cd-i games
Bang.

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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Kenichi340 » 30 Aug 2011 18:41

Hah! That made me laugh.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby CrispyGoomba » 30 Aug 2011 20:47

We all have our opinions, but this guy is just ignorant and stupid.

I'm going to go ahead and throw my two cents in...The Wii isn't the worst console ever. There is obviously other consoles out there that are just plain horrible (Hellooooo Virtual Boy...)

Having said that, it's not the best console out there in my opinion. And let me just say this, the Wii was like a god when it first came out. Now all of a sudden everyone hates it. Haters gonna' hate.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Autosaver » 30 Aug 2011 22:01

Site that no one goes to? CHECK
Site that needs controversy to get page views? CHECK
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Devil_Rising » 30 Aug 2011 23:29

lol Indeed.

Wii isn't MY favorite system of all time. But it's a great console, and to say otherwise is miserably stupid.

For all it's "faults" that people like to point out, the reality is, fanboys hate it because it outsold 360 and PS3. It's that simple. Most of those folks haven't even PLAYED any Wii games, except maybe Wii Sports at a store or something. They use that as an example of all Wii games are, ignoring all the GREAT software the system has had.

The Wii has had more games, hands down, that I've actually wanted to not only play, but own, since the SNES. It's the console that got me back into gaming more. I faded out a bit during the GC/PS2 era. I didn't even buy a PS2 until later in it's life, used on the cheap, and I never actually bought a Gamecube. I just picked up a bunch of games I wanted for it when I got my Wii. I had played a lot of games for both consoles when they were coming out, at friend's houses. But I just didn't have the money, and once I did, I still didn't care enough. But games like Twilight Princess (though I prefer the GC version), Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario, Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, etc., really made me get back into gaming.

The VC and WiiWare services also really helped. I grew up in the 80s, my fav. system was the NES, and I'll always, in my heart, prefer old school side scrolling, or just 2D, sprite based in general, style games. The Wii has had an abundance of those types of games, through download, or many even on disc. And that's where it's at for me.

There are a LOT of craptacular consoles to put on a "Worst Systems" list. Wii is not one of them. For what it did for gaming, the success it had, and the great games it's had, I think it deserves to be in a "Best Systems" list. It's absolutely not THE best. But it belongs up there.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Zekesoul » 31 Aug 2011 09:24

"Millions of hits!"


A just troll, trolling for page views :lol:
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby bfx9 » 01 Sep 2011 00:46

it's the best selling console that nobody plays. that is a huge knock. it's high netflix usage gives an
inaccurate statistic to it's actual online connectivity (transactions, online gaming, downloads, communication)

the attach ratio is poor, worst in history.
software sales are poor considering the high install base (aside from he core nintendo titles)

third party games have been a joke because companies won't invest and take risk and nintendo doesn't have
an open framework to accommodate developers. i'ts both their faults.

nintendo sold 250.00 hardware with expensive peripherals and a poor online interface/dashboard at a big profit margin so you could shake the controller. there were archaic restricting policies that nintendo always seems to cling to.
many of the best games were remakes, ports, GC games and had little added value. lot's of games were lazily kept in 4:3 format and were mistakenly 480i.
the gen had very little in the way of new IP's and innovation software wise. wii sports could have evolved and been so much better.

this upset the core gamers who were giving nintendo one last shot, the guys who traded all their wii stuff into gamestop in 1998.

the value was perceived as poor, while the others systems gave you better power, more and higher rated games, communication, entertainment and online connectivity dollar per dollar at the expense of having analog sticks (which many people like better)

i love my nintendo. i abhor the wii brand. i prefer the nintendo brand.
the wii system was worth the purchase for me for the core games i wanted (zelda, mario, smash, donkey kong) and they would have been exceptional with or without waggle.

face it, we are a large minority. most of the hardcore Nintendo fans from the snes to n64 days are with PS3 or microsoft. they don't even play zelda anymore. they fondly recall OOT but are blinded to the beauty twilight princess is.

i can see why people pick on the wii. it opens itself up to this common criticism.

nintendo made money. that is the redemption here. the wii did nothing special over prior nintendo systems.
lets see if that money truly invests back into the people that supported nintendo from day 1.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Totodile » 01 Sep 2011 18:09

bfx9 wrote:it's the best selling console that nobody plays. that is a huge knock. it's high netflix usage gives an
inaccurate statistic to it's actual online connectivity (transactions, online gaming, downloads, communication)

the attach ratio is poor, worst in history.
software sales are poor considering the high install base (aside from he core nintendo titles)

third party games have been a joke because companies won't invest and take risk and nintendo doesn't have
an open framework to accommodate developers. i'ts both their faults.

nintendo sold 250.00 hardware with expensive peripherals and a poor online interface/dashboard at a big profit margin so you could shake the controller. there were archaic restricting policies that nintendo always seems to cling to.
many of the best games were remakes, ports, GC games and had little added value. lot's of games were lazily kept in 4:3 format and were mistakenly 480i.
the gen had very little in the way of new IP's and innovation software wise. wii sports could have evolved and been so much better.

this upset the core gamers who were giving nintendo one last shot, the guys who traded all their wii stuff into gamestop in 1998.

the value was perceived as poor, while the others systems gave you better power, more and higher rated games, communication, entertainment and online connectivity dollar per dollar at the expense of having analog sticks (which many people like better)

i love my nintendo. i abhor the wii brand. i prefer the nintendo brand.
the wii system was worth the purchase for me for the core games i wanted (zelda, mario, smash, donkey kong) and they would have been exceptional with or without waggle.

face it, we are a large minority. most of the hardcore Nintendo fans from the snes to n64 days are with PS3 or microsoft. they don't even play zelda anymore. they fondly recall OOT but are blinded to the beauty twilight princess is.

i can see why people pick on the wii. it opens itself up to this common criticism.

nintendo made money. that is the redemption here. the wii did nothing special over prior nintendo systems.
lets see if that money truly invests back into the people that supported nintendo from day 1.


Please give evidence for the "poor attach ratio". I can't find anything that agrees with you. The most I can find is it's comparable to PS3.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby bfx9 » 01 Sep 2011 21:34

the ps3 is no better. both are in the 3-4 range persystem
per year.
ps3 is lower than the 6-7 360 attach ratio because
many people buy cross platform
stuff on 360. ps3 and wii are great for exclusives, so lower ratio
is expected.
I can't find any numbers for 2011.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Mike_Intellivision » 01 Sep 2011 22:56

bfx9 wrote:the attach ratio is poor, worst in history.
software sales are poor considering the high install base (aside from he core nintendo titles)
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Interesting that no one actually does any research.
VGChartz shows the Wii to have a higher Tie Rate than the PS3.
While bundling a game with system has made a difference, that has added value to the purchase package.
(I cannot get the numbers right now as I cannot seem to get into the website).

Also, you cannot omit first party titles, which drive Nintendo, from the software sales analysis. Nintendo has 15 or 16 of thtiptop 20 sellers on it's platforms, something unchanged in several generational

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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Devil_Rising » 01 Sep 2011 23:34

bfx9 wrote:the ps3 is no better. both are in the 3-4 range persystem
per year.
ps3 is lower than the 6-7 360 attach ratio because
many people buy cross platform
stuff on 360. ps3 and wii are great for exclusives, so lower ratio
is expected.
I can't find any numbers for 2011.


Most people can't afford to own two different systems, let alone three. I highly doubt there are THAT many people who own both a PS3 and a 360. The only reason the 360 has an allegedly high "attach rate", is because a majority of people who buy it, buy it for Halo, Gears of War, Call of Duty, etc. The same basic "big name" franchise games, that they love to play on Xbox Live. That may be a generalization, but I think it's a valid one.


And personally, I know many people, myself included, who own Wiis, and still play them regularly.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby bfx9 » 03 Sep 2011 00:17

i just wish nintendo would design games with months of replay value like you find on the HD systems.
the wii has lousy online, no DLC and no acheivement/rewards/stat tracking.
how do you play one wii game for months like people do with demons's souls, uncharted, halo ect?
you guys playing red steel and animal crossing right now? donkey kong returns (i beat 100% in 3 days)

people from 12-40 are in the many millions playing PS3 and 360 online right now. the wii is it's own separate thing.
you can't even compare it.
360 and ps3 gamers are in hardcore, gamers game heaven. they have it all and even waggle.




nintendo has first party titles that hook me, but if you go to any gamestop, read any article online on this matter or ask your friends in your town, we all know
people our age are buying and playing HD games right now a hundred times more than the wii.

all the gamestops in out region have a sick amount of used wii shovelware, hardware and accessories that
are stockpiling at an unprecedented level.

the wii had some awesome gems this generation, but was sorely lacking RPG's, FPS's, Mature games, original IP Third person perspective action/adventure, MMORPG's, New IP action games, New IP adventures games, fantasy games,
online fighting game, the list go's on and on on.

many remakes, rehashes, re-releases and many games missing 16:9, 480 p and basic online features, patch support ect.
this is very bad
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Totodile » 03 Sep 2011 00:36

bfx9 wrote:i just wish nintendo would design games with months of replay value like you find on the HD systems.
the wii has lousy online, no DLC and no acheivement/rewards/stat tracking.
how do you play one wii game for months like people do with demons's souls, uncharted, halo ect?
you guys playing red steel and animal crossing right now? donkey kong returns (i beat 100% in 3 days)

people from 12-40 are in the many millions playing PS3 and 360 online right now. the wii is it's own separate thing.
you can't even compare it.
360 and ps3 gamers are in hardcore, gamers game heaven. they have it all and even waggle.




nintendo has first party titles that hook me, but if you go to any gamestop, read any article online on this matter or ask your friends in your town, we all know
people our age are buying and playing HD games right now a hundred times more than the wii.

all the gamestops in out region have a sick amount of used wii shovelware, hardware and accessories that
are stockpiling at an unprecedented level.

the wii had some nice gems this generation, but was sorely lacking RPG's, FPS's, Mature games, original IP Third person perspective action/adventure, MMORPG's, New IP action games, New IP adventures games, fantasy games,
online fighting game, the list go's on and on on.

many remakes, rehashes, re-releases and many games missing 16:9, 480 p and basic online features, patch support ect.
this a very bad

You're making statistics up again.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Devil_Rising » 03 Sep 2011 01:05

You know kid....that's funny stuff. Cause I've gotten more replay value out of a lot of Wii games, than any games for any console since pretty much the SNES. And yes, I'm serious.

Games do not need online deathmatch and trophies to make the replay value high. And what does it say about a lot of those HD console games, that if they DIDN'T have those things, the replay value would likely be incredibly lower? How many reviews do these games have where it basically says the single player mode is short and not really worth it, "but the online is great". Sorry, but unless you're out to MAKE A game specifically multiplayer, like Unreal Tournament for example, then that is NOT the way to design a game. Would it be nice if Nintendo's next console had a better online infrastructure, and all that other stuff? Sure. More is usually better in those cases. But really, to act like the Wii sucks because it lacks some of those things, is silly. And me personally, I've had some great online experiences on Wii games.

Like Totodile said....quit making stuff up.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby bobafruit » 03 Sep 2011 01:10

zdyoshikpl wrote: The Wii earns its spot for worst console of all time for being nothing more than a joke."

The writer ranks it worse then the Virtual Boy, Jaguar, and Phillips CDi


You know I agree with him entirely! The Wii and it's library are a complete joke.

I mean those systems he lists are so bad cuz they didn't have any games, and the Wii only has a few good games like...
A Boy and His Blob
And Yet It Moves
Art of Balance
Art Style: light trax
Art Style: ORBIENT
Band Hero
Battalion Wars 2
Bit.Trip Beat
Bit.Trip Core
Bit.Trip Fate
Bit.Trip Flux
Bit.Trip Runner
Bit.Trip Void
Blast Works: Build, Trade, Destroy
Bomberman Blast
Bonsai Barber
Boom Blox
Boom Blox Bash Party
Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars (The Director's Cut)
Bubble Bobble Plus!
Bully: Scholarship Edition
Call of Duty: Black Ops
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex Edition
Call of Duty: World at War
Castlevania: The Adventure ReBirth
Cave Story
Contra ReBirth
Dawn of Discovery
de Blob
de Blob 2
Dead Space: Extraction
Disney Guilty Party
Dive: The Medes Islands Secret
DJ Hero
DJ Hero 2
Donkey Kong Country Returns
EA Sports Active
EA Sports Active 2
Elebits
Endless Ocean: Blue World
Excitebots: Trick Racing
FIFA Soccer 10
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Fluidity
Geometry Wars: Galaxies
Ghostbusters: The Video Game
GoldenEye 007
Grand Slam Tennis
Green Day: Rock Band
Groovin' Blocks
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus
Guitar Hero 5
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
Guitar Hero World Tour
Guitar Hero: Metallica
Guitar Hero: Smash Hits
Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock
Harvest Moon: Animal Parade
Ivy the Kiwi?
Jungle Speed
Just Dance 2
Kirby's Epic Yarn
Klonoa
LEGO Batman: The Videogame
LEGO Harry Potter: Years 1-4
Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars
Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga
LIT
Little King's Story
LostWinds
LostWinds: Winter of the Melodias
Maboshi's Arcade
MadWorld
Marble Saga: Kororinpa
Mario Kart Wii
Mario Strikers Charged
Max & the Magic Marker (WiiWare)
Medal of Honor Heroes 2
Mega Man 10
Mega Man 9
Mercury Meltdown Revolution
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Metroid: Other M
Mini Ninjas
MLB Power Pros
MLB Power Pros 2008
Monster Hunter Tri
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
MySims Agents
MySims Kingdom
Naruto Shippuden: Clash of Ninja Revolution III
Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution
NBA Jam
NEVES Plus
New Play Control! Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
New Play Control! Pikmin
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
NHL 2K10
No More Heroes
No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle
NyxQuest: Kindred Spirits
Okami
Phantom Brave: We Meet Again
Pinball Hall of Fame - The Williams Collection
Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands
Pro Evolution Soccer
Punch-Out!!
Rabbids Go Home
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Red Steel 2
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Resident Evil Archives: Resident Evil
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles
Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Rock Band 3
Rubik's Puzzle Galaxy: RUSH
Rune Factory Frontier
Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love
Sam & Max: Season One
Samurai Shodown Anthology
Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
Sin and Punishment: Star Successor
Sonic Colors
Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions
SSX Blur
Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Super Paper Mario
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Swords & Soldiers
Tales of Monkey Island
Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars
Tetris Party
The Beatles: Rock Band
The Godfather: Blackhand Edition
The House of the Dead: Overkill
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
The Magic Obelisk
The Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces
Tiger Woods PGA Tour
Toki Tori
Tomena Sanner
Toy Story 3
TrackMania: Build to Race
Trauma Center: New Blood
Trauma Center: Second Opinion
Trauma Team
Wario Land: Shake It!
WarioWare D.I.Y. Showcase
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Fit
Wii Fit Plus
Wii Sports
Wii Sports Resort
World of Goo
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw
You Don't Know Jack
You, Me & the Cubes
Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure

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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Devil_Rising » 03 Sep 2011 01:13

You make a point I've made before, with a list even, about Wii actually having a lot of good games. But for arguments sake, realize that listing a lot of WiiWare games, which you did, will likely bait certain types around here into saying something along the lines of "it's pretty bad when you have to pad your list with a bunch of downloadable titles".

Trust me, it happens. ;-)
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby bobafruit » 03 Sep 2011 01:30

Lol, well I just took the top 200 on Metacritic and excluded games that I thought were bad and unnecessarily extended the list.

I know you're not making the argument, but If someone wanted to pad out their list they could include Madden, all the Strongbad episodes, and all the Monkey Island chapters... now if I included virtual console games, then I'd be padding out my list.

Also these hypothetical people can't give downloadable titles short-shrift. Many of the best and most interesting games on PS360 are downloadable. I am personally tempted to buy a 360 to play "From Dust".

Any modern system deserves to have downloadable titles listed in it's best titles. They bring the variety missing in the big budget games.

Pac-Man Championship Edition DX, Braid, LIMBO, Super Meat Boy, and Shadow Complex pretty much settle any argument over whether a list is "padded" by having downloadable titles, these games are reasons to own a 360.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Koopzilla » 03 Sep 2011 03:06

Thats probably the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. I'm not even going to waste my time reading it and giving the site a hit. But the Wii is far from being the worst system of all time. I love that it brought back some of my favorite games from long absences like Side scrolling Mario, Punch-Out!!, Donkey Kong Country, non FPS Metroid (I know many people hated it, but I loved it). Both Mario Galaxies will probably go down as 2 of my favorite games of all time.
I'd say the worst system I've ever owned was the Game Gear. But there are many worse systems than that. Such as the CDi, The Odyssey (maybe great for being the first home console, but terrible none the less), Apple Pippin, Atari Jaguar, and Tiger Game.com to name a few.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby bfx9 » 03 Sep 2011 12:55

the wii is not the worst system of all time, but it has alienated many gamers who have defected to
the other two systems which have been more successful from a quality standpoint. way more successful.
and even without online, dlc and trophies, the games are deeper and overall better. sales prove it. the industry knows this. everyone knows this.

the best games developers in the world are making games for the HD systems.
nintendo is not the best software developer anymore. steel diver and the same mascot games over and over
have cost nintendo that title years ago.

by metacritic standards, wii software has the lowest average scores by far.
the writing is on the wall, it doesn't take statistics to see that we are in the minority
and gamers gamers are being enjoyed by far many more people on other platforms.

that list of games above contains a plethora of cartoony mediocrity.
kiddy games like mini ninjas, failed selling games and low metacritic score game dominate that list.

i wouldn't post that against the top 100 ps3/360 games. that would be embarrassing.


the 12-40 male demographic is dominated not by wii, an person knows this.
we are in a small minority.

the 50 million soccer moms that bought the wii for wii sports resort are even bored.

also. i frequent many message boards for all systems and industry related topics.

you never ever see ps3/360 forums ever discuss their systems validity, lack of interest, lack of quality, lack of sales or
lack of perceived success.
because it just isn't there.

on nintendo forums, that's all the discussions are. constantly comparing, justifying, regretting, defending
and drinking the nintendo koolaid.

i'm an original fan since 1984. i own every single nintendo video game system ever made.
i don't drink the koolaid
how many people are gonna read this thread? 30,000? 50,000? those numbers are nothing.
it's probably more like 200!

we are in a minority. other than the upcoming cartoon zelda, the wii is dead and is among the
worst systems of all time with regards to abundant, quality software for adult gamers.
you can only use SSBB, SMG, SMG2 and zelda as a defense so many times.
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Re: Website Names Wii Worst System of all Time.

Postby Agent_Rad » 03 Sep 2011 13:45

[quote="bfx9"]also. i frequent many message boards for all systems and industry related topics.
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Cool story bro. According to the rest of your post, no you don't. Nice job completely outing yourself there, kool-aid man.
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