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Retro should have made the next SB

Postby FatFace83 » 22 May 2012 21:12

Given how fantastic Retro are I always thought they could of done a fantastic job with Smash Brothers. We are probably looking at a two-three year wait for the next Smash Brothers on the Wii U or 3DS and I personally believe that Retro should of been put forward to of made the next games while Project Sora were busy on Kid Icarus Uprising. Just a thought!
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Re: Retro should of made the next SB

Postby AtomicBean » 22 May 2012 21:49

How 'bout no. Let's let them make something original for a change instead of tossing another big name franchise at them. I don't know about anyone else, but seeing this type of thing suggested constantly gets a little tiring.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby KingBroly » 22 May 2012 22:46

What? No.

Why would you think this is a good idea.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby CrispyGoomba » 22 May 2012 22:50

Nah, Smash Bros is way too big for them to work on. Possibly making a few stages would be nice and help with other minor things, but that's probably about it.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby FatFace83 » 22 May 2012 23:05

KingBroly wrote:What? No.

Why would you think this is a good idea.

Many reasons, but honestly yeah I think given some guidance and what-not I think they would do a fantastic job, though I understand for many that you can't try and make something perfect that already is but I'd like to see a few new ideas and touches, of course we are going to see this with the 3DS version so in the very least a Retro 3DS Smash Bros. I mean if O'l Miyamoto believes that retro could possibly help out with a Zelda title in the future then I'm pretty sure they would do alright on another franchise which isn't Metriod or Donkey Kong. And going by those games alone I have faith in them. Plus the inpatient part of me is worried that making a Wii U version and a 3DS version back to back will take forever and a day, it's gong to be a mammoth job.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby led-naruto » 24 May 2012 01:37

No. Given how different they have treated the formula of the other games they have worked on (Metroid Prime, main example), I don't think they should take on Smash Bros.
I mean, Prime is great and all, but it's different from the previous Metroid games.
Plus, making a crossover game that big is difficult, and takes a lot of time and research for it, even with the experience. I would prefer if an inner source that worked in the facilities (or at least HAL) worked in this, and Sakurai is fit for the job.

So sorry but I can't really trust this franchise to Retro Studios. In fact now that I have played Kid Icarus Uprising I'm eager to see what Sakurai can do in the 3DS than in the Wii U version.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby FatFace83 » 24 May 2012 21:29

led-naruto wrote:No. Given how different they have treated the formula of the other games they have worked on (Metroid Prime, main example), I don't think they should take on Smash Bros.
I mean, Prime is great and all, but it's different from the previous Metroid games.
Plus, making a crossover game that big is difficult, and takes a lot of time and research for it, even with the experience. I would prefer if an inner source that worked in the facilities (or at least HAL) worked in this, and Sakurai is fit for the job.

So sorry but I can't really trust this franchise to Retro Studios. In fact now that I have played Kid Icarus Uprising I'm eager to see what Sakurai can do in the 3DS than in the Wii U version.

Kid Icarus Uprising is an amazing game, I have been completely addicted to it, I really hope we see another title by the same team, I hope the sales have been good for it because it really is special. It was also why I made the point of Retro either making a SSB game or helping out given the time scale of making both games, and also the fact I loved Kid Icarus so much that I'd just love to see them work on another title already, but that's me being greedy!
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby Tingle » 24 May 2012 22:47

Usually people post "Retro should..." topics in regards to series that they think have gone stale (Zelda, Star Fox, etc.) This might just be my opinion, but Sakurai and HAL Labs have done a pretty good job with the series. While I have a lot of respect for Retro, I don't think they'd be able to top the Japanese developers on a game like Smash Bros. That kind of absurd, off the wall fighter game really plays towards the strengths of the Japanese developers' culture.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby ocre » 25 May 2012 00:59

You actually may be onto something here. They've helped out with other high profile non-Retro games in the past, Mario Kart et cetera. I believe they could handle something like trophy models or a couple of stages. Yes.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby jasonmaivia » 25 May 2012 07:12

I'd rather have more games to play with multiple studios each working on games independently instead of multiple studios working on one game, but it could be good to have Retro give a bit of their time and effort to push the next Smash Bros. game into becoming the biggest and best ever.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby NiGoMonster » 25 May 2012 08:44

nah. Sakurai does know how to make a game packed full of content, just look at Kid Icarus...taking that game as indication the next SSB will be epic <3
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby Hadrian » 25 May 2012 09:38

Retro would indeed do a fantastic job.

They made a fantastic Metroid series in 3D that kept everything I love about Metroid and not only that they also did Wii controls perfectly. You can appreciate them even more after the mess that was Other M.

Then they took Donkey Kong Country which is a series that while is a lot of fun, on the service isn't a great platformer and they made a title that is one of the best platformers around.

They put a lot of attention into their titles, you can clearly see that they take the Nintendo approach and antagonise over every aspect of a game. I could easily see them putting so much extras, easter eggs and a lot of content that it could be the most well balanced SB game. Quite frankly Nintendo could give them anything and I won't have any fears.

However I really hope all these rumours about their Wii U game are false. I want Retro to do their own title, create a new IP that would really flex their muscles. When Nintendo first signed them up they were working on four all new games, the ones I saw looked very promising...then Miyamoto came in to see them and was amazed and pretty much said "Cancel these, work on Metroid" and for the last 12 years they've just worked on Nintendo properties...time for Nintendo to give them a chance to do something new.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby led-naruto » 26 May 2012 00:40

How about Treasure making it?



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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby Mirr0rR3flection » 27 May 2012 00:02

I'd rather Retro keep their hands off Smash Brothers thank you. -_-

Its doing just fine without them.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby Shroki » 27 May 2012 02:39

Mario, Donkey Kong, Star Fox... really, there are teams within Nintendo (or recurring partners of Nintendo) who can do a great job at making one of those games. I have no reason to expect those same teams can do something like Metroid Prime though.

Just stop feeding them existing franchises and give them a shot to create something original.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby motherbra1n » 27 May 2012 04:08

no this is like the dumbest suggestion ever. If retro listened to half pf what their fans wanted they would never get anything done since people want to make a new entry in every single franchise under the sun as well as a new ip.

I can understand the metroid/zelda sugggestions since retro have already proved that they'd do a great job with metroid and zelda is somewhat similar to metroid so they'd do a great job there. The eternal darkness 2 suggestions sort of came out of thin air, but this one is just flat out dumb, I actually think they'd ruin super smash bros because they probably wouldn't know what they're doing
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby jasonmaivia » 27 May 2012 04:38

motherbra1n wrote:no this is like the dumbest suggestion ever. If retro listened to half pf what their fans wanted they would never get anything done since people want to make a new entry in every single franchise under the sun as well as a new ip.


I'm guessing that since Nintendo has a number of forgotten franchises this gen (Star Fox, Wave Race, F-Zero, 1080, etc.) and that have shown that they're more than capable to create high quality games (the Metroid Prime series, Donkey Kong Country Returns), Retro is seen as the go-to team for something awesome.

As much as I liked F-Zero GX on Gamecube, Nintendo may not work with Sega again on the franchise (WTF?). For once, I hope they ignore Miyamoto and have something with Sega (even though Amusement Vision is no longer with the living). Besides Sega, who else would you trust to handle the next game?

As for Star Fox, Namco had their chance, and many believe that Retro Studios can do better.
As for Wave Race & 1080, what the hell is NST doing!? What have they been doing for the last 5 years except for Mario vs Donkey and friggin' clock/calculators? If Retro or anyone wants to step up and develop something for the Wii U, please do.
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Re: Retro should have made the next SB

Postby motherbra1n » 27 May 2012 06:21

jasonmaivia wrote:
motherbra1n wrote:no this is like the dumbest suggestion ever. If retro listened to half pf what their fans wanted they would never get anything done since people want to make a new entry in every single franchise under the sun as well as a new ip.


I'm guessing that since Nintendo has a number of forgotten franchises this gen (Star Fox, Wave Race, F-Zero, 1080, etc.) and that have shown that they're more than capable to create high quality games (the Metroid Prime series, Donkey Kong Country Returns), Retro is seen as the go-to team for something awesome.

As much as I liked F-Zero GX on Gamecube, Nintendo may not work with Sega again on the franchise (WTF?). For once, I hope they ignore Miyamoto and have something with Sega (even though Amusement Vision is no longer with the living). Besides Sega, who else would you trust to handle the next game?

As for Star Fox, Namco had their chance, and many believe that Retro Studios can do better.
As for Wave Race & 1080, what the hell is NST doing!? What have they been doing for the last 5 years except for Mario vs Donkey and friggin' clock/calculators? If Retro or anyone wants to step up and develop something for the Wii U, please do.


if nintendo don't announce a new entry in the f-zero franchise by e3 2013 then WTF!? So sad seeing such great potential wasted away like this whilst sony have stolen the idea and now everyone thinks wipeout is a original racing game. Why they're more than happy to let this happen I do not know.

I can also understand the starfox suggestions since that is more or less a dead franchise and retro are known for reviving dead classics, but really, retro can do so much more than starfox, it just seems to me like starfox doesn't have the potential to be anything truly amazing like metroid or zelda, and I wouldn't want retro wasting their time on anything like that.

Whatever retro are working on, it had better be for the Wii U rather than the 3DS and it had better not be a 2D sidescroller, I mean absolutely adored dkcr it's the best 2D platformer that I have ever played, but I really want the "retro's game is 'massive'" rumour for be true.

I do have to wonder what the heck game studios are doing when they spend so many years wasting time on mario calculator apps for dsiware, where the hell do they get their revenue from? are the developers being paid to sit on their backsides and do nothing or is it a whole team of people working for nintendo as a part time job?
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