Should nintendo censor third-party excessive casual titles?

[spellsinger]

I was pondering... in this gen, casual third-party titles for the wii is selling really well. I think it's fair to assume that's gonna happen with the Wii U all over again. But will nintendo just watch the third-party receive easy rivers and rivers of money without doing anything? What can they do? I would put some companies in a "black list". That black lists consists about companies that develops both casual and hardcore content but only delivers casual titles to nintendo plataforms in order to get easy money and spent them making "complex games" to non-nintendo plataforms.

But more to the point:

"If you want to develop casual titles in our plataforms in order to get easy money to develop hardcore titles, you must develop these hardcore titles for us as well."

"That third don't wanna develop hardcore titles for us? Let's censor their casual titles then!"

Basically it's this.

Do you think it is a good idea?
What do you think nintendo should do?

[gtt]

Then they won't put titles on nintendo systems at all.

[spellsinger]

Then they won't put titles on nintendo systems at all.

This will not affect us at all. I rather give money to a nintendo casual title than third-party shovelware.
Besides, nintendo did really well surviving 2 past gen without too much third-party support.

[Einar1025]

Then they won't put titles on nintendo systems at all.

This will not affect us at all. I rather give money to a nintendo casual title than third-party shovelware.
Besides, nintendo did really well surviving 2 past gen without too much third-party support.

If they did so well then why did they have to changed their strategies after each of those 2 generations?

[Broken_Cartridge]

No, they shouldn't. If Nintendo got really picky about what belonged on their console and what didn't it would discourage developers from making games for the system. You have a problem with casual games? Don't buy them.

[spellsinger]

Then they won't put titles on nintendo systems at all.

This will not affect us at all. I rather give money to a nintendo casual title than third-party shovelware.
Besides, nintendo did really well surviving 2 past gen without too much third-party support.

If they did so well then why did they have to changed their strategies after each of those 2 generations?

Playstation 2 sold well because of piracy, lauch time advantage and strong exclusives, but he was the weakest of they generation just like the Wii U will be. Guys, this is a boycott to nintendo... if nintendo came with the strongest console of their generation, I think none of these developers would develop for it. Well.


You forot what people say about nintendo systems. "people buy nintendo just to play nintendo". I think that's true. I would love to see from where will come the money to develop the hardcore titles.

[spellsinger]

No, they shouldn't. If Nintendo got really picky about what belonged on their console and what didn't it would discourage developers from making games for the system. You have a problem with casual games? Don't buy them.

You don't understand. How can nintendo produce a core fan base if no one develops hardcore titles for nintendo console? Nintendo needs to be more agressive towards this. And discourage them to make whatt? Old core titles? Don't make me laugh!

[Einar1025]

Are you talking about the Ps2? If you are thats a difference scenario, despite being the "weakest" it was still able to play multiplatform titles just as well as the other 2, the Wii on the other hand can't play the same games as Xbox and PS3, want proof? Dead Rising Chop till you Drop.

And its very true Nintendo owners only buy Nintendo games, this site if proof of that where the users proudly show off how few quality games they have played like badges of honor.

[Broken_Cartridge]

No, they shouldn't. If Nintendo got really picky about what belonged on their console and what didn't it would discourage developers from making games for the system. You have a problem with casual games? Don't buy them.

You don't understand. How can nintendo produce a core fan base if no one develops hardcore titles for nintendo console? Nintendo needs to be more agressive towards this.

I'm fully aware of the situation. To say that Nintendo receives "no core games" from 3rd parties is a very bold statement that would only actually become a reality if Nintendo started cracking the whip on what games can be released on their console. No more casual games? That's like saying "Sorry, we don't want you to be able to make money on our console. Only make Hardcore games which, if the game tanks, will make your company lose millions of dollars....Oh, you would be more willing to take a risk if you had the sales of casual games on the market? Too bad" You said yourself that Nintendo got by with minor 3rd party support before, this is no different. Who cares if there are casual games on the system. You make it seem like they are the only kind of games that Nintendo gets. Except we have been getting more hardcore games then you're making it out to seem. [i.e. No More Heroes, Madworld, Rune Factory, Zack & Wiki, Call of Duty (multiple), Monster Hunter, etc (And those are only Wii examples)] Restricting these publishers/developers from putting out casual games to help their revenue would be asking them not to bring those games to your console.

Again, don't like casual games? Then don't buy them


Edit: Also, having casual games on your console does not make your system look dumb or however you think it makes it look. The PS2 is regarded by many people as the best console of its generation, and that had far more shovelware on it then the Wii did.

[spellsinger]

Are you talking about the Ps2? If you are thats a difference scenario, despite being the "weakest" it was still able to play multiplatform titles just as well as the other 2, the Wii on the other hand can't play the same games as Xbox and PS3, want proof? Dead Rising Chop till you Drop.

And its very true Nintendo owners only buy Nintendo games, this site if proof of that where the users proudly show off how few quality games they have played like badges of honor.

No, I was just saying it is a way to act against some thirdies who develops only casual and forget core. If we wanted casual, we can play nintendo casual. If they don't want to help nintendo to construct a core base, then nintendo should not them get all that easy money.

[spellsinger]

No, they shouldn't. If Nintendo got really picky about what belonged on their console and what didn't it would discourage developers from making games for the system. You have a problem with casual games? Don't buy them.

You don't understand. How can nintendo produce a core fan base if no one develops hardcore titles for nintendo console? Nintendo needs to be more agressive towards this.

I'm fully aware of the situation. To say that Nintendo receives "no core games" from 3rd parties is a very bold statement that would only actually become a reality if Nintendo started cracking the whip on what games can be released on their console. No more casual games? That's like saying "Sorry, we don't want you to be able to make money on our console. Only make Hardcore games which, if the game tanks, will make your company lose millions of dollars....Oh, you would be more willing to take a risk if you had the sales of casual games on the market? Too bad" You said yourself that Nintendo got by with minor 3rd party support before, this is no different. Who cares if there are casual games on the system. You make it seem like they are the only kind of games that Nintendo gets. Except we have been getting more hardcore games then you're making it out to seem. [i.e. No More Heroes, Madworld, Rune Factory, Zack & Wiki, Call of Duty (multiple), Monster Hunter, etc (And those are only Wii examples)] Restricting these publishers/developers from putting out casual games to help their revenue would be asking them not to bring those games to your console.

Again, don't like casual games? Then don't buy them

I'mnot talking about every thirdies, just some. Take-two for example, would be a great choice to censor!

[Thermithral]

No, they shouldn't. If Nintendo got really picky about what belonged on their console and what didn't it would discourage developers from making games for the system. You have a problem with casual games? Don't buy them.

You don't understand. How can nintendo produce a core fan base if no one develops hardcore titles for nintendo console? Nintendo needs to be more agressive towards this.

What do you mean develop a "core" fanbase? Forgive me if I misunderstand your meaning, but Im pretty sure Nintendo already has a core fanbase for its 1st party titles. If you mean they should be trying to force third party developers to create more "hardcore" games on their platform because the same developers made money on casual titles, then that is saying you expect Nintendo to say, "You made money from us, so you WILL make that game for us. We dont care if your game would not be as good as you want it to be.(As unfortunately, that is mostlikely what would happen if say, a game intended for Xbox 360 was ported over to the Wii)". I dont agree with that mindset. Nintendo can tell its own developers what games to make, but I dont think they should be going up to third parties and saying, You made money from us, give us the "hardcore" titles.

[gtt]

Edit: Also, having casual games on your console does not make your system look dumb or however you think it makes it look. The PS2 is regarded by many people as the best console of its generation, and that had far more shovelware on it then the Wii did.

yea, but it also had all the multiplatform titles. and a very very large library of 'core' titles in every genre.

[Broken_Cartridge]

I'mnot talking about every thirdies, just some. Take-two for example, would be a great choice to censor!

If you censor one then you have to censor them all. They would probably face lawsuits if they played favorites

@gtt I realize this, my statement was only to suggest that having casual titles doesn't mean the system would be bad, and they should not be censored.

[spellsinger]

Ok then. Let's enjoy the lovelly upcoming casual Wii U titles then.

@Broken_Catridge


So it's super fair to assume that a lot of hardcore developers has Microsoft and Clony as favorites.

[kernal]

And its very true Nintendo owners only buy Nintendo games, this site if proof of that where the users proudly show off how few quality games they have played like badges of honor.

my goodness, that came off a little snobish, now didnt it? im glad you dont speak in generalities or anything..

to the topic at hand.. i feel that some of those casual games are actually quite fun.ive enjoyed wii sports, wii sports resort, wii play and party, warioware smooth moves and my nieces have a blast playing just dance. there are a ton of terrible casual games but there are also a ton of crappy "core" games as well. i think what needs to go is this "core" attiude that anything that isnt there cup of tea is crap and should be banished and all who enjoy them arent real gamers.

[led-naruto]

If by casual games you mean... the sports games, Barbie ones, movie games, and other products for sake of marketing... then no, sorry. As much as any person would like that it's against the developers rights to hardware companies order such a thing. Nintendo as a company gives permission to a developer company to publish their games in their systems, regardless of being junk or not; Nintendo shouldn't intervene in a work that's not being done by it.

[Einar1025]

And its very true Nintendo owners only buy Nintendo games, this site if proof of that where the users proudly show off how few quality games they have played like badges of honor.

my goodness, that came off a little snobish, now didnt it? im glad you dont speak in generalities or anything..

The truth hurts.

[kernal]

And its very true Nintendo owners only buy Nintendo games, this site if proof of that where the users proudly show off how few quality games they have played like badges of honor.

my goodness, that came off a little snobish, now didnt it? im glad you dont speak in generalities or anything..

The truth hurts.

uh... what? considering no truths have been spoken i am unaware how to respond. i for one can tell you i am a nintendo owner, visit the site and consider myself to be an ultra-mega-nintendo-fanboy and i own/have owned many third party games and have played and currently play games on multiple consoles.. so no, not so much-a the truth

[YoshiRider123]

If by casual games you mean... the sports games, Barbie ones, movie games, and other products for sake of marketing... then no, sorry. As much as any person would like that it's against the developers rights to hardware companies order such a thing. Nintendo as a company gives permission to a developer company to publish their games in their systems, regardless of being junk or not; Nintendo shouldn't intervene in a work that's not being done by it.

Wholeheartedly agreed. I think the proposal is stupidly tyrannical, and it'd hurt the company a lot more than provide it benefits.

[Waynebrizzle]

We can also just not buy or play those games.

[cortjezter]

i don't know if 'censor' is the right word here.

you're thinking of a policy that sets limitations or restrictions on the products third parties can release? since nintendo does have to give permission and give license to devs/publishers before anyone is allowed to release games for their platforms, it is possible. even if they had something like a contractual clause to the effect of 'three strikes'; as in, make too many crappy cash-in games and we'll revoke your license.

now whether that would help or hurt the system... that's anyone's guess.

[varoennauraa]

Perhaps they could encourage 3rd parties to put a bit effort in games by increasing licencing fees of small budget games and reducing royalty rates on games that gets high sales.

[Mirr0rR3flection]

As long as no one is forced to buy them, then no they shouldn't be "censored". -_-

[Gakdudes]

Nintendo took a lot of flack for there restrictive stance towards 3rd parties in the nes and snes days. That is why many third parties left nintendo. Nintendo makes money off of every game printed for its system, so why would they want to limit that? Consumers will weed out the good from the bad. And what criteria would you select to label a game as casual?? Many people love games like just dance or carnival games, they play for fun; elitism will only help to shrink the game market more, the exact thing Nintendo is fighting against.