RUMOR - The craziest Wii U rumors yet, I promise

[internet]

well it depends really
i just watched a tad sad video on nintendo video for free and that could not be seen elsewhere , and i realized that would be a major selling point of the phantom service known as xbox live gold . So multimedia ? yeah a few films on demand and done , aka netflix . os mobile based aka an app with purchasing function , yep that's going to be on 3ds too , so done .

as for metroid by epic , personally just no please no . And i like both the prime series and the sakamoto series including other m , that i like also for its gameplay and content .
but yes it could be a great thing for online nintendo fps gaming . but it's epic and they have enough money from that free money xboxlive gold to never have to do that , plus the thing they get from apple

xboxlive gold selling what psn gives for free , and being praised for that free 300bucks over 5 year , yeah hardcore gamers!

[ridleysaria]

I like how a lot of UE3 games look, but the texture pop-in really takes me out of the experience. I wouldn't want that for Metroid.

[player value]

They are NOT saying Metroid is based on UE3. They say the birds demo is based on a custom version of UE3, not the same at all.

[ninjablaze]

I don't see what the problem is with Epic working on Metroid. Even if they are crappy, that doesn't mean anything. Nintendo has worked with crappy developers in the past, like:

Next Level Games
Monster Games
Kuju Entertainment
Team Ninja

All of them are crappy when they aren't working with Nintendo. Nintendo can make an average dev do good work. But it's probably just using the unreal engine. Didn't the Metroid Prime games use the unreal engines? I remember reading that.

Multimedia push, that's not far fetch. They're doing something like that with 3DS aren't they? Isn't that why they are making deals with the guys who did Wallace and Gromit?

Don't know about the last one though.

Team Ninja? Crappy?

Well, I take that back, after Itagaki left and looking at how NG3 turned out, maybe.

But Ninja Gaiden Black is one of the best 3D beat-em up's ever made imo.

[cbbomb]

I don't see what the problem is with Epic working on Metroid. Even if they are crappy, that doesn't mean anything. Nintendo has worked with crappy developers in the past, like:

Next Level Games
Monster Games
Kuju Entertainment
Team Ninja

All of them are crappy when they aren't working with Nintendo. Nintendo can make an average dev do good work. But it's probably just using the unreal engine. Didn't the Metroid Prime games use the unreal engines? I remember reading that.

Multimedia push, that's not far fetch. They're doing something like that with 3DS aren't they? Isn't that why they are making deals with the guys who did Wallace and Gromit?

Don't know about the last one though.

Team Ninja? Crappy?

Well, I take that back, after Itagaki left and looking at how NG3 turned out, maybe.

But Ninja Gaiden Black is one of the best 3D beat-em up's ever made imo.

They are also the guys who did the brainless Dead or Alive series. And they've only got two series, Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive.

[Shaanyboi]

I don't see what the problem is with Epic working on Metroid. Even if they are crappy, that doesn't mean anything. Nintendo has worked with crappy developers in the past, like:

Next Level Games
Monster Games
Kuju Entertainment
Team Ninja

All of them are crappy when they aren't working with Nintendo. Nintendo can make an average dev do good work. But it's probably just using the unreal engine. Didn't the Metroid Prime games use the unreal engines? I remember reading that.

Multimedia push, that's not far fetch. They're doing something like that with 3DS aren't they? Isn't that why they are making deals with the guys who did Wallace and Gromit?

Don't know about the last one though.

Team Ninja? Crappy?

Well, I take that back, after Itagaki left and looking at how NG3 turned out, maybe.

But Ninja Gaiden Black is one of the best 3D beat-em up's ever made imo.

That was also years ago. I mean Rare was once considered something special, but that name doesn't mean jack-all now.

Without Itagaki, that studio is pretty f***ing poor.

[Fabian128]

Epic working on meytroid? absolute BS and no thanks. Metroid is in good hands with Retro, those guys are artisans from another planet while Epic games is a sausage factory. That Team ninja collaboration was .. well.. a bit shovel, actually I think Platinum games would've been a better fit if they wanted it an action oriented metroid from a japanese dev.

[thorn-rock]

@TheLastBlade

this

seriously though it's not the first time we hear that rumour about an Epic Metroid. It could be great really.

And what's with the Epic hate anyway? They're a great developper, they deserve respect. At least more than a lot of other so called big name developpers this gen. They put a lot of effort in their games. They are ambitious and consistent, good quality products.

You know I'm all for hating on a lot of devs out there who's games are not consistent enough, filled with glitches, no imagination whatsoever when it comes to the gameplay, who rely 100% on patches to even make the game work or DLCs that you can't really avoid, and so on... But Epic is not part of them. I know the story in GoW is very basic (that being said, it's not worst than, say, Mass Effect. I still don't understand all the praise about its scenario, it's b-movie average at best) but there is some character development in the trilogy. I know the games are short, but contrary to say, CoD, they were kind enough not to let us wait several episodes before adding the obviously expected local and cooperative modes, not just on-line.

Whatever you think GoW appeared at the very beginning of this gen and it defined an entire genre. Now you simply can't make a TPS without including elements of GoW. They made history there.

[gtt]

1)as fake as margarine. not happening. and who would want it? Texture pop-in and chest high walls and dudebro in metroid? no thanks.

2)BIG NEWS, Water is wet. I imagine we'll see what nintendo considers a push of online content, what form this will take and will it actually mean anything beyond some logos they can put up on screen at e3? who knows.

3)this has the stink of doubt all over it, however, nintendo is going into 'scrimp and save' mode again, I could totally see them rolling a build of android instead of taking the time(cost) of updating the Wii OS and simply having a NAND chip with all the wii IOS updates on it for BC.

[Chosenoneknuckles]

1) Think we'll see Metroid in a showcase trailer of Nintendo IPs running on the Wii U, but nothing else [this year].

2) No duh.

3) The least likely of the bunch to me. but who knows?

[varoennauraa]

Doesn't sound crazy to me.
Unreal engine is quite possible.
Online media push is probable.
Mobile based OS is almost given.

[shingi70]

well it depends really
i just watched a tad sad video on nintendo video for free and that could not be seen elsewhere , and i realized that would be a major selling point of the phantom service known as xbox live gold . So multimedia ? yeah a few films on demand and done , aka netflix . os mobile based aka an app with purchasing function , yep that's going to be on 3ds too , so done .

as for metroid by epic , personally just no please no . And i like both the prime series and the sakamoto series including other m , that i like also for its gameplay and content .
but yes it could be a great thing for online nintendo fps gaming . but it's epic and they have enough money from that free money xboxlive gold to never have to do that , plus the thing they get from apple

xboxlive gold selling what psn gives for free , and being praised for that free 300bucks over 5 year , yeah hardcore gamers!

If psn is so better why does xbox live rarley have down time while psn has it as least twice a month. Why does psn have shovel like horrid patches and installs. Why does psn not have cross game chat built in

Also does psn have
Espn
Youtube
Crackle
Dailymotion
Iheartradio
Last.fm
Fios
Vevo
Ufc
Hbo go
Msn
Today
Tmz
Syfy
Xfinty


Until they do psn is worse.

And you guys really don't expect sony to charge next gen.

As for metroid don't really care for epic on it even though I like their games. However give me retro doing the single player and epic doing an unreal style hunters mutiplayer mode and I'm there.

[shingi70]

@gtt

Yes because somehow every gam epic has made is dudebro (your not eveb using the term correctly)

Eh if nintendo gors for android its probably a build on ics highly customized like kindle fire or running google tv.

[Mike_Intellivision]

My guess is that one of those rumors is going to be true in some form.

Metroid may use the UE engine (though not necessarily be done by Epic).
The WiiU may have mobile OS roots (but not necessarily be straight Android port).
On line will be big (but game experiences will still matter most).

Mike from Morgantown

[AnoukiAgentYellow]

E - Retcon Other M and Fusion (and possibly Zero Mission) in the process

Reason why I stopped my Metroid fandom, after Other M so many people want a retcon of it or half the series that I'm afraid Nintendo will actually do it. I still haven't purchased Other M not because I don't like it (I'm 90% sure I would like it) but because I refuse to get invested in a universe that Nintendo might, ugh, "reboot" (my most hated word). I've even stopped my Fusion and Prime Trilogy play-though because of it, I'm just paranoid.

Sidenote: Zero Mission is just a more polished version of the original, how do you retcon the bookends of a series and leave the middle intact anyhow? Is it just because Super Metroid and the Prime games the only ones you like? Thought so.

[Muigi]

Some of these people are outright crazy if they want Fusion to never happen.

That was one of the best Metroid games I've ever played. It's not a Super Metroid, but that doesn't make it bad by any means.

[thorn-rock]

E - Retcon Other M and Fusion (and possibly Zero Mission) in the process

I'm sorry but this is a really dumb thing to say.
Some people here might want to remember that Metroid is first and foremost a Nintendo series. The canon are the games, and Prime is a spin-off, not the main series.

And thank god about that. Because as much as I like the Prime games, I don't want Metroid to become a slow-paced FPS with an average story. Metroid is fast-paced, it's a mix between arcade and exploration, it can be played in 2 hours if you know it by heart, it's a game that is designed to be finished several times if you want to and it has straightforward, simple gameplay. It currently develops the theme of motherhood and the fact that Samus is getting closer to its former nemesis, both physically and emotionally. And it likes to surprise or even shock gamers with the character of Samus Aran. First it was when we learned she is a woman and not your stupid typical space marine guy, and then it was when she started to talk more and gamers realised she is a woman and not your stupid typical space marine guy. That's saying a lot about how much gamers evolved, right?

The point is that this is the essence of the game right now.
Right now, the main story consists in: Zero Mission - Return of Samus - Super Metroid - Other M - Fusion. Period.

A series is not what the fans wants it to be. It's what the creators want to do with it. That's the way it is anyway so deal with it.

[Triforce of the Gods]

E - Retcon Other M and Fusion (and possibly Zero Mission) in the process

I'm sorry but this is a really dumb thing to say.
Some people here might want to remember that Metroid is first and foremost a Nintendo series. The canon are the games, and Prime is a spin-off, not the main series.

And thank god about that. Because as much as I like the Prime games, I don't want Metroid to become a slow-paced FPS with an average story. Metroid is fast-paced, it's a mix between arcade and exploration, it can be played in 2 hours if you know it by heart, it's a game that is designed to be finished several times if you want to and it has straightforward, simple gameplay. It currently develops the theme of motherhood and the fact that Samus is getting closer to its former nemesis, both physically and emotionally. And it likes to surprise or even shock gamers with the character of Samus Aran. First it was when we learned she is a woman and not your stupid typical space marine guy, and then it was when she started to talk more and gamers realised she is a woman and not your stupid typical space marine guy. That's saying a lot about how much gamers evolved, right?

The point is that this is the essence of the game right now.
Right now, the main story consists in: Zero Mission - Return of Samus - Super Metroid - Other M - Fusion. Period.

A series is not what the fans wants it to be. It's what the creators want to do with it. That's the way it is anyway so deal with it.

If this post had a like button, I would have broken it from pounding it too hard.

[ddddd]

E - Retcon Other M and Fusion (and possibly Zero Mission) in the process

I'm sorry but this is a really dumb thing to say.
Some people here might want to remember that Metroid is first and foremost a Nintendo series. The canon are the games, and Prime is a spin-off, not the main series.

And thank god about that. Because as much as I like the Prime games, I don't want Metroid to become a slow-paced FPS with an average story. Metroid is fast-paced, it's a mix between arcade and exploration, it can be played in 2 hours if you know it by heart, it's a game that is designed to be finished several times if you want to and it has straightforward, simple gameplay. It currently develops the theme of motherhood and the fact that Samus is getting closer to its former nemesis, both physically and emotionally. And it likes to surprise or even shock gamers with the character of Samus Aran. First it was when we learned she is a woman and not your stupid typical space marine guy, and then it was when she started to talk more and gamers realised she is a woman and not your stupid typical space marine guy. That's saying a lot about how much gamers evolved, right?

The point is that this is the essence of the game right now.
Right now, the main story consists in: Zero Mission - Return of Samus - Super Metroid - Other M - Fusion. Period.

A series is not what the fans wants it to be. It's what the creators want to do with it. That's the way it is anyway so deal with it.

If this post had a like button, I would have broken it from pounding it too hard.

And in what part of that small quote did you guys got the idea that he wants to make metroid prime the primary canon and convert the series into halo?

[varoennauraa]

I have a terrible fear, that they might steer Metroid into shovel, because of popular demand after Other M.

[KingBroly]

E - Retcon Other M and Fusion (and possibly Zero Mission) in the process

I'm sorry but this is a really dumb thing to say.
Some people here might want to remember that Metroid is first and foremost a Nintendo series. The canon are the games, and Prime is a spin-off, not the main series.

A series is not what the fans wants it to be. It's what the creators want to do with it. That's the way it is anyway so deal with it.

That's not really my point. For you see, my dear peoples, I am about to reveal some very important and very obvious information to you. This is official information as well. Here it is:

Metroid: Other M and Metroid Fusion are part of the same story arc

What does this mean? Well, if you screw up one, you screw up the other. It's that simple. One cannot survive without the other. It's just how things like this work, sadly enough. Why? Well, getting rid of Other M by itself would still leave its' consequences intact. I won't go into detail here, because you should be smart enough to know or find the controversy surrounding Other M. Basically, its' stink would still exist if it was taken out while leaving Fusion in place. It's logic.

It doesn't matter if you like it or not, if the story cannot be repaired (and this has been debated within the Metroid community, as well as in my own head as to whether or not it can) it deserves to be declared non-canon.

[gtt]

E - Retcon Other M and Fusion (and possibly Zero Mission) in the process

I'm sorry but this is a really dumb thing to say.
Some people here might want to remember that Metroid is first and foremost a Nintendo series. The canon are the games, and Prime is a spin-off, not the main series.

A series is not what the fans wants it to be. It's what the creators want to do with it. That's the way it is anyway so deal with it.

That's not really my point. For you see, my dear peoples, I am about to reveal some very important and very obvious information to you. This is official information as well. Here it is:

Metroid: Other M and Metroid Fusion are part of the same story arc

What does this mean? Well, if you screw up one, you screw up the other. It's that simple. One cannot survive without the other. It's just how things like this work, sadly enough. Why? Well, getting rid of Other M by itself would still leave its' consequences intact. I won't go into detail here, because you should be smart enough to know or find the controversy surrounding Other M. Basically, its' stink would still exist if it was taken out while leaving Fusion in place. It's logic.

It doesn't matter if you like it or not, if the story cannot be repaired (and this has been debated within the Metroid community, as well as in my own head as to whether or not it can) it deserves to be declared non-canon.

it can be repaired, just not elegantly. you have clones, dreams, alternate reality, etc. The cleanest solution is to just ignore them or reboot. I personally would hate a reboot because I fear sakamoto would get all up in it, and well, you know.

[bunny-cow]

Epic possibly doing Metroid is completely random. And no thanks, I like looking at colors in Metroid. And seriously Nintendo, if they're really trying to push FPS on their console, stop having Metroid be the "be all--end all" franchise to shooter/gritty fare. Just create a new IP.

The other rumor of an Android-based OS for Wii U would be AMAZING! So many electronic products use it anyway and seeing as Nintendo is still limiting in the online department in features (poor 3DS), I see this as the only way their vision of pushing multimedia content come to fruition.

[Darren]

Wow, has anyone else noticed Kingbroly's obsession with Metroid: Other M? It's really offputting.

[thorn-rock]

@KingBroly

So you still don't get my point.

I'm glad your reaction was not about the Prime games being canon or better or not, or even Samus in OtherM. I assumed it was because you see that all the time on the internet so that was kind of an automatic reation.

But still, my point is still valid: the main series right now is the five games I mentionned. Out of these 5 games, you want to get rid of 3?

Don't you think it's just time you stop playing metroid because it sure seems that you like certain Metroid games but not the series, and not the other way round.

The creators do what they want with their series. That's all there is to it. And experience taught me that when the creators start listening to the fans to much, it generally leads to crap. We'll see what happens, but I would be sad to learn that they got rid of more than half the main story just because some fans think they know better than the creators themselves.

And no the story is not broken if you consider the main games. You know the one that cannot be questionned because they are... well the MAIN games. The rest can be questionned though but you can't question the main games based on information that you get on other stuff that are not the main series.