Take-Two skeptical of Wii U, will bring sports/family tit...

[void3953]

The problem is they do this because you already DON'T buy their games.

Because 99% of the time their Nintendo games are crap?

Nintendo gamers shouldn't have to be forced to buy garbage software with the hopes that maybe the good stuff will come along eventually if they do. That was tried with the Wii and we all know how that turned out.

3rd party games sold during launch and then they decided to drop support because... I don't know why. They chose to pick games like Mad World, a game that would have flopped on any system even though Sega stated that it met their sales expectations, and used them as a litmus test instead of games like RE4, which sold INCREDIBLY well what with being a several years old port with Wii controls tacked on.

Until 3rd parties actually put in a concerted effort then this argument is void.

[Einar1025]

The problem is they do this because you already DON'T buy their games.

Because 99% of the time their Nintendo games are crap?

Nintendo gamers shouldn't have to be forced to buy garbage software with the hopes that maybe the good stuff will come along eventually if they do. That was tried with the Wii and we all know how that turned out.

3rd party games sold during launch and then they decided to drop support because... I don't know why. They chose to pick games like Mad World, a game that would have flopped on any system even though Sega stated that it met their sales expectations, and used them as a litmus test instead of games like RE4, which sold INCREDIBLY well what with being a several years old port with Wii controls tacked on.

Until 3rd parties actually put in a concerted effort then this argument is void.

Again THIS is the problem, you just wrote off 99% of all games that arnt Nintendo. Are you kidding me? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

What about the Sonic games? Rayman? Zack and wiki? Nights? Skylanders, Ghostbusters (which I will remind you Dan Aykroyd himself said the wii one was his favorite!) Okami, tatsonko vs , sin and punishment 2! How many do I have to name?

See this is the problem Nintendo faces, fans like you who only buy Nintendo titles and write off anything else as crap. This is why companies like take-two arnt coming to wii u cause people like you already wrote them off.

[Entity]

Nintendo is their own biggest enemy. We know that by now.

E3 was too "casual" but I don't think that was the reason. China Town Wars could be a hint though.

One thing for sure, though: If you don't try, you won't find out! They could, at least, have tried with one game and see how it went. Porting doesn't cost that much more than making a new sports game and/or mini game collection, does it?

[misswliu81]

I love how third parties bash Nintendo and then say this type of stuff, then act all mad that what games they do put out don't sell and blame Nintendo again. You guys do know that if you insult us enough, we'll just outright not buy your games no matter what you give us right?

if third party games on nintendo consoles were as good as or better than nintendo's games, then perhaps they would sell as well. yet these same third parties who have been b*tching and whining are the same third parties who have put out mostly shovelware on the DS, Wii and even some of these same third parties have put out their core games on PS3, X box.

still, the wii outsold the PS3, x box 360 in spite of the poor 3rd party support, so i could care less what the likes of take-two say.

[MrChewtoy]

Doesn't think this console will work because there aren't core games on it

Doesn't put core games on it

Where is the logic?

[Devil_Rising]

"SEE GUYS, THIS IS PROOF! I TOLD YOU WII U WAS DOOMED BEFORE IT EVEN BEGAN!!!!"


That's okay Take Two. Know why? Because I never gave s*** about GTA anyway.

[gwalms]

If they felt they could make money on the system, they would do so. This is business. not elementary school. "like" has zero to do with it. Dollars have everything to do with it.

Making/porting a version of GTA V for the Wii U shouldn't cost too much more than to not release it. Do they really think sales would be so low for GTA V that it wouldn't make up the costs for a port? Companies aren't always so smart, or, they do believe they'll get a profit, but they don't think the amount of profit is worth it. I mean, Modern Warfare wasn't initially released on the Wii, even though we know COD sold pretty well on the Wii. Eventually it was ported, and it did in fact show that, guess what, companies can be dumb/make mistakes! It did in fact sell pretty well, and they made a profit on it. The obvious (to me) and better decision for Activision would have been for them to release a port for the Wii at the same time as the PS3 and 360 versions, when they were marketing the game more heavily, and people didn't feel like they were buying a year old game. Anyway, I have a hard time believing that GTA V wouldn't sell well on the Wii U.

[redhatdrawler]

The problem is they do this because you already DON'T buy their games.

Because 99% of the time their Nintendo games are crap?

Nintendo gamers shouldn't have to be forced to buy garbage software with the hopes that maybe the good stuff will come along eventually if they do. That was tried with the Wii and we all know how that turned out.

3rd party games sold during launch and then they decided to drop support because... I don't know why. They chose to pick games like Mad World, a game that would have flopped on any system even though Sega stated that it met their sales expectations, and used them as a litmus test instead of games like RE4, which sold INCREDIBLY well what with being a several years old port with Wii controls tacked on.

Until 3rd parties actually put in a concerted effort then this argument is void.

Again THIS is the problem, you just wrote off 99% of all games that arnt Nintendo. Are you kidding me? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

What about the Sonic games? Rayman? Zack and wiki? Nights? Skylanders, Ghostbusters (which I will remind you Dan Aykroyd himself said the wii one was his favorite!) Okami, tatsonko vs , sin and punishment 2! How many do I have to name?

See this is the problem Nintendo faces, fans like you who only buy Nintendo titles and write off anything else as crap. This is why companies like take-two arnt coming to wii u cause people like you already wrote them off.

I'm pretty sure he meant games made for the "NINTENDO" Wii. In which case he is right. And good job for naming about half of the good third party games developed for Wii. NO ONES GOING TO BUY GAMES THAT AREN'T GOOD. Atleast people who know a good game. So you can't say we don't support them by not buying there(crappy)games,and with little to no advertising for 90% of the great third party titles, no one outside of forums would know anything about them and walk right past them. I walked into gamestop the other day and looked at the Wii section. It's horrible. I mean there's a lot of great games, but the shovel far outweighs the good. Thanks to the casuals that supported shovelware, so these third parties could fund their bigger HD projects. That's the cold hard truth and it's been said many times by developers.

[void3953]

See this is the problem Nintendo faces, fans like you who only buy Nintendo titles and write off anything else as crap. This is why companies like take-two arnt coming to wii u cause people like you already wrote them off.

See this is the problem 3rd parties face, developers like Capcom and Konami who only put effort into Sony and MS games while writing off Nintendo fans as crap. This is why gamers like me aren't interested in them anymore because they already wrote ME off.

3rd parties screwed themselves. I really don't care if 'X' or 'Y' game ever hits the Wii U anymore. Why should I care if, given historical precedence, they're just going to invent some absurd excuse in order to talk themselves out of developing for a Nintendo system.

Put it this way: It's a free market, isn't it? 3rd parties need to convince ME to buy their games, not the other way around. Since when do I have to prove that I'm worthwhile for their support? That's bull and you know it. They need to prove to ME that they are worth MY support and they haven't been doing a very good job of that for YEARS now. In business you NEVER attack a potential customer, unless you have no intention of them ever becoming a customer in the first place. Meaning, they have no interest in Nintendo-centric gamers. So I have no interest in them.

Thanks to the casuals that supported shovelware, so these third parties could fund their bigger HD projects. That's the cold hard truth and it's been said many times by developers.

Yeah, it started out that way but eventually even the so-called casuals stopped buying their trash. If the casual market was still buying we'd still be seeing plenty of cash-in software. But there isn't. In fact, there are practically no new Wii games coming out at all. I wonder what's going to happen if 3rd parties try to pull the same stunt on the Wii U and it flops from the outset since they've already soured any possible customers. Say good-bye to those huge 3rd party projects that only existed this generation because of Wii profits.

And say good-bye to many more 3rd parties who will end up going bankrupt trying to figure out how to fund those games this next gen since the market they've cultivated will put up with nothing less than bigger and better.

[snowyday]

Take Two if you don't bring GTAV to Wii U then I will not be getting it on PS3

[Devil_Rising]

Nintendo is their own biggest enemy. We know that by now.

E3 was too "casual" but I don't think that was the reason. China Town Wars could be a hint though.

One thing for sure, though: If you don't try, you won't find out! They could, at least, have tried with one game and see how it went. Porting doesn't cost that much more than making a new sports game and/or mini game collection, does it?

No offense, but that is really beyond old by now. E3 was "casual"? Why? Because they spent the end of it focusing on showing off Nintendo Land? Give me a break. Almost the entire rest of the show were "core" games, mostly third party.

Take-Two can do whatever they want. They pump out largely the same crap anyway. I was never a fan of GTA, personally, and it's not as if their other franchises exactly light the world on fire. Decent. But not world breaking.