Reggie and insiders talk Wii U power, issues, UE4 capabil...

[FireFoxMcCloud]

I don't really care about 3rd party support.
I buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, for the rest I have my PC.

Still having UE4 support is a must since all game companies that work with UE3 will jump to UE4 when it releases.

Pretty true statement, although the Nintendo games seem to be hiding.

Stuff about sales.

[Edit: F-word isn't censored but s-word is?] Frack the market. What exactly does Nintendo, Nintendo now, have to lose, by producing for said market outside of the one they're trying to milk? Hm? They're video game developers. It's supposed to be a passion. And with a passion, the typical motto should be: If someone likes it, then hell, I was successful. Not everything is for everyone.

Reggie doesn't seem to understand that although his Wii Fit game was successful among the non typical gamer, it's noting we'll play on a daily. Not everything is for everyone. Which is fine. Although you can't hold out on the group that built the foundation and just cater to the "casual" group. Especially when you're someone big like Nintendo.

I don't sit and gripe when a larger majority of people don't like my music. As long as I can get a few comments here and there. I'm satisfied, and then I move on. If I seek criticism, I'll always get the people wanting to change my style up. That's cool and all, but I'm just some nobody. if you're not paying me, then I'm going to make this for me, and if I decide to jump ship and go in a different direction, it's because I decided to, or someone paid me to.

Creating is just that: Creativity. And if you can't handle the criticism that comes with it, then you need to pass what you're doing up to the next person, so they can get the ball rolling. I'm tired of the hand holding in the industry.

EDIT 2: Also, if they need this so called market, then the specs of the Wii U needs to increase over their competitors then, doesn't it? After being spoiled with the ability to work free with the gritty HD graphics of the PS360 gen, do you really think these lazy ass publisher/developers are going to devote their resources to downgrade so to speak just to put out something? EActivision isn't going to put a new spin on their games so Battlefield and COD will have some robust art style to match with the competitors, and to work inside the limits of Nintendo's console again, or just give up completely.

[FireFoxMcCloud]

@FireFoxMcCloud I....I guess I can agree with that. I have said this before when people talk about which system is better. The Wii offered something different at a good price and it had a lot of fantastic games that will never be on other platforms. But anyway, people should relax though, the wiiu will be good and it will have decent /good 3rd party support

Yeah, obviously Nintendo has/had the games that were undeniably Nintendo made so to speak. Can't find a better experience. IN MY OPINION, that feels has been lacking, but you know, it's a major impact that holds in all of their older games. It wasn't smart to only have a Wii. You missed out on some shovel, cause I complained ALL the time. But having it along with something waiting for something to come along is fine I suppose. Even though the wait was entirely too long at times. And Galaxy 2 was unnecessary to me.

I still have major doubts about Wii U, because, y'know, when you announce a new console.. You.. kinda.. make it known that it's a new console, taking from past experiences anyway.. With the hardware and the software highlight reel, and the demos and the trailers and the fans going crazy over something.. All that was missing. And I refuse to pay for another NSMB game. All that disc space and what are we doing with it? Pikmin for me isn't a seller. So. I have nothing at the moment.

I still don't have a 3ds.

[LegendofSantiago]

@FireFoxMcCloud the 3ds is pretty packed for the rest of the year so if you want games on a nintendo system the 3ds has been the place to go since last year. I would say being a single console owner is a bad idea for any system if you are a serious gamer. I have always had two home consoles and at least one handheld. The only system I was disappointed in was the ps3 since I bought it at launch for "599 us dollars " expecting another ps2 and I had no games on it for like 2years, maybe 3 then it started getting good and then...it broke :/ I have been happy with the Wii though . Some people hate it with a passion but there where plenty of amazing titles and my favorite installments of many nintendo franchises so I'm happy. :p

[Devil_Rising]

I don't really care about 3rd party support.
I buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, for the rest I have my PC.

Still having UE4 support is a must since all game companies that work with UE3 will jump to UE4 when it releases.

Pretty true statement, although the Nintendo games seem to be hiding.

Have you forgotten the countless times Nintendo chose not to release a game because there was no market for them? Xenoblade? Last Story? Pikmin 2?

Where third parties go the market goes. The same market that would be Metroid or Zelda or F-Zero. There'll be no market for them, therefore, Nintendo won't produce.

Skyward Sword sold only 3 million worldwide. Most games today, especially HD games, have to sell at least 2 million just to break even. That will be true of the next Zelda. Now what happens if the Zelda Wii U sells only 2 million? And then after that, only 1 million? Woops, it isn't making a profit! There is a reason why people aren't surprised if Nintendo doens't make another Metroid Prime game. Considering that they barely sold more than a million. and Metroid will be one of those games that needs to sell 2 million to break even. That's why Reggie made a big deal about Other M not reaching 2 million. But they can't sell reach that number because the people who would appreciate a game like that own a PS3 and Xbox 360. In other words, the market for Metroid is someplace else.

Stop living in this fantasy land that Nintendo is completely immune to everything. That you'll get your games no matter what. Nintendo needs third party support more so than ever. They said as much back at the end of Gaemcube. They can't make enough games themselves anymore and satisfy enough of their fans anymore. They said this themselves. Or do you think they were lying? They need third party support to satisfy gamers who aren't into all of Nintendo's franchises. They need a market to

There is no way in any reality, that "Zelda Wii U" sells less than 3-4 million worldwide, period. ESPECIALLY if it looks anything like the Zelda demo they showed off last year (and it had better, because I love that art style). Beyond that, a game like Skyward Sword, while certainly not cheap, isn't going to cost them as much to make as, let's say, Uncharted. Why? Because uncharted has voice acting with actual actors they have to pay, it has completely orchestrated soundtracks, HD graphics, the works. A lot of these "AAA" games you hear about on HD consoles, such as this upcoming "The Last of Us" for example, actually STRIVE to have Hollywood sized budgets, for all the wrong reasons. Zelda, even in HD, isn't going to cost THAT much. Point being, even at just over 3 mil sold, SS I'm sure has made Nintendo a tidy profit.

On another note, I'm very proud to point out that my favorite 3D Zelda, Twilight Princess, with Wii and GC version sales combined, is THE highest selling Zelda game of all time, at over 8 million copies sold worldwide between the two versions. Pretty awesome.

[battletanxxxx]

boooooooo, I'm just gonna wait and see what happens this guy could know exactly what he's talking about or nothing, I don't think nintendo has put all their cards on the table yet... just wait and see