Did you love the Avengers?

by **TheLastBlade** » 07 May 2012 01:44

Did ya?

by **gtt** » 07 May 2012 01:59

so much!

by **MoldyClay** » 07 May 2012 02:16

I thought it was a great/good movie, but it was overhyped. It wasn't AMAZING, IMO and I wouldn't say I *loved* it, but it was funny (*cough*HULK+LOKI*cough*), but I feel like the individual films leading to this were done better.

I blame it on trying to focus on too many characters and fitting it into 2 and a half hours. Not really their fault.

It was still a great movie and I have no regrets seeing it. Excited to see where it all goes now.

by **jasonmaivia** » 07 May 2012 03:09

I thought you were talking about the game, because I was, like, "HECK YEAH!!! That game's FRICKIN hard, but cool!!!"

Now I want proper sequel.

by **TheLastBlade** » 07 May 2012 03:10

MoldyClay wrote:I thought it was a great/good movie, but it was overhyped. It wasn't AMAZING, IMO and I wouldn't say I *loved* it, but it was funny (*cough*HULK+LOKI*cough*), but I feel like the individual films leading to this were done better.

I blame it on trying to focus on too many characters and fitting it into 2 and a half hours. Not really their fault.

It was still a great movie and I have no regrets seeing it. Excited to see where it all goes now.

SPOILERS:

I felt that the only major flaw in the movie is that you really need to actually watch Thor. Other characters either use flashbacks or dialogue to at least explain something, but Thor came out of nowhere. What kept him from being a huge mistake was the fact that even HE can get mad at Loki.... And he also gets some Karma. Plus they didn't do that much with Bruce Banner (No complaints with the different actor because I thought that Hulk movie was okay at best). It needed more scenes of Bruce.

by **gtt** » 07 May 2012 03:30

TheLastBlade wrote:
MoldyClay wrote:I thought it was a great/good movie, but it was overhyped. It wasn't AMAZING, IMO and I wouldn't say I *loved* it, but it was funny (*cough*HULK+LOKI*cough*), but I feel like the individual films leading to this were done better.

I blame it on trying to focus on too many characters and fitting it into 2 and a half hours. Not really their fault.

It was still a great movie and I have no regrets seeing it. Excited to see where it all goes now.

SPOILERS:

I felt that the only major flaw in the movie is that you really need to actually watch Thor. Other characters either use flashbacks or dialogue to at least explain something, but Thor came out of nowhere. What kept him from being a huge mistake was the fact that even HE can get mad at Loki.... And he also gets some Karma. Plus they didn't do that much with Bruce Banner (No complaints with the different actor because I thought that Hulk movie was okay at best). It needed more scenes of Bruce.

that's not a flaw. that's a feature. the only way the avengers, or a hypothetical Justice league movie work, is if you assume that everyone has seen the lead up individual character movies. you can't spend an hour of the movie rehashing 5 origin stories. and I hope everyone looks at the avengers and says 'huh, maybe we don't have to show superman's(or whomever) origin for the millionth time since 1938'.

by **TheLastBlade** » 07 May 2012 03:39

The way Thor was introduce was kinda poor in my opinion. The reason why they included references to their movies was so people can better understand them. That flaw alone is what kept Thor from being a good character (I actually did like hm in the film, but it wasn't explained where and why he appeared [I know it's to get his brother back, but I wanted to know where he came from to the plane they were on]. And that's why he's my least favorite super hero in the film).

by **gtt** » 07 May 2012 03:52

TheLastBlade wrote:The way Thor was introduce was kinda poor in my opinion. The reason why they included references to their movies was so people can better understand them. That flaw alone is what kept Thor from being a good character (I actually did like hm in the film, but it wasn't explained where and why he appeared [I know it's to get his brother back, but I wanted to know where he came from to the plane they were on]. And that's why he's my least favorite super hero in the film).

this is a comic book in movie form. Avengers is the team book, the other movies were the solo books.

they aren't really references and call backs to the other movies, more like the avengers is the continuation of them.

thor came from asgard. that's where he's from.

by **TheLastBlade** » 07 May 2012 04:30

Like I said, the reason I have a oroblem with this is because a lot of people were slowly introduced. But Thor appeared with lightning and talked to Loki... I dunno why I have such a huge deal with this. I can get pass Bruce Banner and Tony Stark, but Thor? Yes I know he's from Asgard.

by **Broken_Cartridge** » 07 May 2012 10:01

In my opinion Thor was introduced just fine. The Avengers is not meant to introduce the characters. If you want an introduction to the character you're supposed to watch Thor.

by **MoldyClay** » 07 May 2012 14:43

Guys, I think his problem was just how Thor was introduced into the film.

Every other character was like "This is this guy, this is what they do and a bit of their character to refresh your memory" and then Thor just literally fell out of the sky, knocked Loki down and fights ensued.

Yes, you're supposed to have seen the previous films, but they made an effort to vaguely reintroduce everyone for a minute or so for those who came in without watching the others for some reason (or maybe skipped Thor out of disinterest for the character, which I know people did).

I agree that he was kinda oddly introduced (versus everyone else), but it didn't really bother me that much.

That said, I do think there should've been some more Banner/Hulk.

Also, I honestly felt like Hawkeye contributed very little to the whole thing. He obviously helped, but ehhh. Made no impression on me.

Also, where's Red Skull? That cube got me all stoked for him to magically appear and then it was Loki.

by **gtt** » 07 May 2012 14:48

Broken_Cartridge wrote:In my opinion Thor was introduced just fine. The Avengers is not meant to introduce the characters. If you want an introduction to the character you're supposed to watch Thor.

this. I'm sooo glad they didn't waste time with origin stories. I still wish they had used the actual skrulls and not the shovel ultimate universe version.

by **TheLastBlade** » 07 May 2012 15:29

MoldyClay wrote:Guys, I think his problem was just how Thor was introduced into the film.

Every other character was like "This is this guy, this is what they do and a bit of their character to refresh your memory" and then Thor just literally fell out of the sky, knocked Loki down and fights ensued.

Yes, you're supposed to have seen the previous films, but they made an effort to vaguely reintroduce everyone for a minute or so for those who came in without watching the others for some reason (or maybe skipped Thor out of disinterest for the character, which I know people did).

I agree that he was kinda oddly introduced (versus everyone else), but it didn't really bother me that much.

That said, I do think there should've been some more Banner/Hulk.

Also, I honestly felt like Hawkeye contributed very little to the whole thing. He obviously helped, but ehhh. Made no impression on me.

Also, where's Red Skull? That cube got me all stoked for him to magically appear and then it was Loki.

Thank you for understanding on why I had a hard time with Thor. The film was already 2 and a half hours, so it can't hurt to put in more in the characters. I agree (dunno about Hulk) about Bruce Banner. Could've had more scenes for him and they didn't even bother putting it in. Ehhh on Hawkeye from me too. He did what he had to do in the film, but he's last in my top 5 "normal" heros in the film.

by **bunny-cow** » 07 May 2012 15:57

I was surprised that I loved the movie considering that I don't have any passion for Marvel heroes besides the X-Men and their stand-alone movies for me have ranged from "Good but I don't think I'll buy it on Blu-Ray" to "Generic Summer Action Movie."

The movie was basically one action set piece to the next. I was scared for the fight scenes because the stand-alone movies are so limiting in body movements (i.e. bodies don't move that way... oh, you're harnessed from body-wires), but the majority of the fights were very well done and not so restricting (especially with the Black Widow).

The humor was hit-and-miss for me. Feels like the audience literally LOL'd in parts where you feel like chuckling. But it was a nice touch and really evident of Joss Whedon moments.

Even though Loki is in it, Thor (and then Hawkeye) get pretty shafted throughout the movie in terms of dialogue lol. Felt like Thor was just there to be there honestly.

Spoiler:

Game for a sequel on the following conditions: Joss Whedon or a Whedon-protegee needs to direct again because I'm 95% if they don't do the sequel, the final product will become ultra-generic Summer fare. Also, some new members will inevitably be introduced but like Joss Whedon said in an interview, the team needs more females. Ms. Marvel, Spider-Woman, and She-Hulk are arguably the strongest and most prominent candidates (sorry Wasp), and I will be fuming mad if they just added more guys to the team without any new females!