I hope new Zelda for wii gets every silly 360 and PS3 fanboy

[PATRIOT7ME]

to shut up.

They are all jumping up and down like nintendo is doomed since the Natal and Playstation Move came around the corner.

Really I can't stand this crap I have been hearing all this gen. They think they know quality but they don't.

[MalikHalo]

Why would Zelda Wii change their minds?

[motherbra1n]

of course it wont shut their mouths, its not a first person shooter, why would they even try it out i mean it hasnt even got guns. thats all they ever play, just fps clones. no guns/blood, no buy.


and no im not talking about every ps3/360 owner im talking about blind 12 year old fanboys thinking theyre cool by playing call of duty and halo and swearing through their mics all day cos the 360 nd ps3 do have amazing games which ill hopefully get round to playing some day (little big planet, mass effect)

why else do you think halo was voted the best game series of all time, cos the people who voted for it havent played a single game that isnt a first person shooter and/or nothing but mindless button mashing just to watch blood all over the screen

[PATRIOT7ME]

Look I'm hoping it can get them to shut up because it can prove some things. It can prove the Wii can do better graphically and gameplay wise.

Ever since Monster Hunter Tri was made. Nintendo has felt they need to push the graphics of the new Zelda for Wii harder and I'm sure all of you know that the wii has been bashed several times by people saying it has last gen graphics while it doesn't. Well, I hoping the new Zelda proves to the fools the Wii can do much graphically

Also on gameplay wise. People are like motion plus is useless but it is just underused. The game is gonna prove how awesome it can be for hardcore games because this is a huge title for it to be used for.

[Darth Vader]

Fanboys will never shut up and if you ever expect them to then you're in for nothing but disappointment.

With that said, we've heard or seen nothing about the game yet so speculating how it'll put fanboys in their place is a little premature, don't you think?

I mean, I think we can all expect something great simply because of the fact that Nintendo seems to want to up the ante for once. We'll have the first console Zelda for years that isn't a retread at its core, and that's certainly something to be excited about. Again, though, let's save the 'oh those guys are gonna be so jealous' talk until we've actually seen what the game looks and plays like.

Also, I'd like to dispute this whole idea that Monster Hunter 3 is all that good looking a game, because while some of the models are fantastic, the environments are universally bland and pretty uninspired. And that fanboys of other consoles don't know what quality is like Wii fanboys do. (When games like De Blob and The Conduit are what's worth getting hyped up over on a console... :/ )

[mariomaniac45213]

I agree with most of which Darth Vader/What CD said. Let's see the game first. There hasn't been a bad Zelda except PH. So while I have a feeling it will be good but we don't know yet and we won't know if they Shut up or not.

@Autosaver
Different opinions I suppose. But I don't like what the mass majority likes I hated PH, NSMB, NSMBW, and Pokemon Diamond too name a few.

[Autosaver]

Phantom HourGlass was NOT bad. :p

[Little_Mac]

Who cares what fanboys think?

Hell, a fanboy might think I'm crazy for having an un-opened Mario Galaxy 2 game sitting on my shelf since 3 days ago because I can't stop playing Monster Hunter. Do I care, nope. Same should be said for you. This brand loyalty is part of what's killing the game industry anyways. A own a Wii and PC, but I make it a point to visit my friends during the week to catch up on Xbox and PS3 exclusives that I miss out on.

Although, I will disagree with what Vader said about the graphics in Monster Hunter because the texture work and tech is fantastic when considering the scale of the game.

[TYFIGHTER]

Who cares what fanboys think?

Hell, a fanboy might think I'm crazy for having an un-opened Mario Galaxy 2 game sitting on my shelf since 3 days ago because I can't stop playing Monster Hunter. Do I care, nope. Same should be said for you. This brand loyalty is part of what's killing the game industry anyways. A own a Wii and PC, but I make it a point to visit my friends during the week to catch up on Xbox and PS3 exclusives that I miss out on.

Although, I will disagree with what Vader said about the graphics in Monster Hunter because the texture work and tech is fantastic when considering the scale of the game.

Took the words out of my mouth. Besides, why would you care what they think? As long as you love the game, no one's opinion matters. Especially a fanboys.

[PATRIOT7ME]

@Autosaver
Different opinions I suppose. But I don't like what the mass majority likes I hated PH, NSMB, NSMBW, and Pokemon Diamond too name a few.

Dude you are insane to think NSMB and NSMBW suck.

[mariomaniac45213]

@Autosaver
Different opinions I suppose. But I don't like what the mass majority likes I hated PH, NSMB, NSMBW, and Pokemon Diamond too name a few.

Dude you are insane to think NSMB and NSMBW suck.

Look at my feedback (not going to repeat myself for the thousandth time why I don't like NSMBW, WARNING: Long way to go.) Insane because I have an opinion? RiiiiGHT! If anyone's insane is you for questioning people's taste in games if they don't match your own and two for making this pointless thread. I'm ashamed I even commented in it. *goes back too play the good wii Mario games SMG and SMG2*

[PATRIOT7ME]

@Autosaver
Different opinions I suppose. But I don't like what the mass majority likes I hated PH, NSMB, NSMBW, and Pokemon Diamond too name a few.

Dude you are insane to think NSMB and NSMBW suck.

He didn't say it sucks, he said he didn't like it.Big difference.

Not everyone has to jump up for joy when a new mario game gets made every few months :/.

No he said it sucked because he said he hated them.

I don't like everyone mario game either but there is nothing really wrong with NSMB and for sure there is nothing wrong NSMBW..

[Devil_Rising]

Also, I'd like to dispute this whole idea that Monster Hunter 3 is all that good looking a game, because while some of the models are fantastic, the environments are universally bland and pretty uninspired. And that fanboys of other consoles don't know what quality is like Wii fanboys do. (When games like De Blob and The Conduit are what's worth getting hyped up over on a console... :/ )

I may, perhaps, be mistaken, but I think his point was not that PS360 fanboys don't know what "quality" is, but rather, they have an entirely different idea of what a "quality" game is, and it usually has to do with graphics. Both de Blob and The Conduit WERE quality games. AAA? Maybe not. But They're both excellent exclusives.

What's more, at least MY take on it would be, that to a lot of PS360 fanboys, they like to point to the graphics of their consoles as the be all, end all of any "what's better" argument. When in fact, quite frankly, I think a lot of those UBER brown and gray graphic games, look pretty terrible, no matter HOW high the resolution or polygon count is.

To me, I prefer the Wii because of the overall quality of the games, as in, not just the graphics (many of which ARE great looking), but more importantly, because a lot of Wii games, to ME at least, are just a lot more fun to play. I own a PS3, as I've mentioned on many threads in the past (if nothing else, JUST to keep idiots from throwing the moronic "fanboy" label at me to try and dismiss my opinions lol), and I barely play it a fifth of what I do my Wii. Between VC, GC backup, WiiWare, and actual retail Wii games, the system pretty much satisfies my personal gaming needs.

And while Monster Hunter 3's level graphics may be a bit "bland", as you say, there honestly isn't really another game like it on the other consoles right now either, which is a big deal for the Wii. The Wii honestly deserves MORE great exclusives like it, and Tat. vs. Capcom, etc. Even though the argument still can and should be made that Wii also deserves more quality ports, such as SSFIV or MvC3. For instance, I own the Wii versions of The Force Unleashed and Ghostbusters, and while having played the other console versions, I prefer the Wii versions because of their controls. But moreover, I didn't mind the "dip" in graphics, at all. That may just be because I'm not a graphics whore. But it also just so happened that the games, especially Ghostbusters, looked good on Wii regardless. And considering how good TvC looks, I find it incredibly hard to believe that Wii couldn't do comparable versions of SSFIV or MvC3 as well. Easily.



But back on point, and to finish my little contribution here, while I don't really care what PS360 fanboys think, I do get where he's coming from. For a 28 year old man, like myself, to hear a bunch of whiny kids talk about how AWESOME their console is, and how Wii is just a crappy system with "kiddie" games, it is rather silly, but it also gets rather old. It's a wonder why, with as AMAZING as these kids say their preferred consoles are, that they can't just shut the hell up and enjoy them in peace.

Oh well. Zelda will most likely be amazing anyway. And I'll like it, which is all that matters.

[mariomaniac45213]

WHOA WHOA! Patriot7me stop speaking for me please. Yes I said I hated the NSMB series but did not say they sucked they are quality titles but they felt generic to me in comparison to the SMW and SMB3. Too me it felt like a good effort but not a spectacular one like SMW and SMB3. They just didn't have the magic SMW and SMB3 had. Plus Yoshi is limited (which is not a HUGE problem but is just one of the reasons I enjoyed World more), I didn't like the "multiplayer" (it's just single player with extra players) I liked the Single Player the first time around but I know I won't ever return to it like I had with SMW and SMB3 numerous times.

[Gulshog]

to shut up.

They are all jumping up and down like nintendo is doomed since the Natal and Playstation Move came around the corner.

Really I can't stand this crap I have been hearing all this gen. They think they know quality but they don't.

Well, it won't.

Honestly, Natal is doomed before it even arrives, if the rumors are true that it's going to cost $150. But, this is Microsoft, and that sounds like exactly the kind of thing they would try to market. I am not interested at all in Natal...it just doesn't grab me.

But, Move seems cool. I guess it only makes sense that I would see the advantage of it, since it's basically the WM+ in a new shell. Which, isn't a bad thing...I don't see why people are giving Sony such crap over it. I mean, look at controllers up until the last generation...they were somewhat similar, for the most part, with some innovations here and there. A good control scheme is hard to come by, and when someone innovates, copying it only benefits gamers in general.

Trust me...fanboys are all the same. They'll rag Nintendo over everything they do...it doesn't matter. Just enjoy the games, and systems you have....don't worry about what other people think. And, don't let what they think keep you from playing good games on the 360, PS3, or Wii. They all have something to offer.

[Facepalm]

Honestly, the biggest fanboys are the ones that find more meaning in nostalgia than progression.
To say that you hated NSMB because it wasn't like World is a complete miss of the point. NSMB is not Super Mario World 3. So don't approach it like it is.

You have to know how to approach things in order to truly appreciate this industry. If you don't want reinvention, you chose the wrong hobby. Play chess; that never changes.

The fact is, NSMB is just as well made, perhaps even more well-made than SMW. And if you spent your childhood playing NSMB, you would feel that magic.

[mariomaniac45213]

Honestly, the biggest fanboys are the ones that find more meaning in nostalgia than progression.
To say that you hated NSMB because it wasn't like World is a complete miss of the point. NSMB is not Super Mario World 3. So don't approach it like it is.

You have to know how to approach things in order to truly appreciate this industry. If you don't want reinvention, you chose the wrong hobby. Play chess; that never changes.

The fact is, NSMB is just as well made, perhaps even more well-made than SMW. And if you spent your childhood playing NSMB, you would feel that magic.

Umm no. I'm only 16. I first played SMB3 on the VC. a year before NSMB. So it has nothing about nostalgia. Yes I had world for SNES but I also bought it on VC. I notice how different they play and world is much much better. You are not gonna change my mind about NSMB series like everyone on the god damn website has. I will never like NSMB END OF STORY. Yes they are differnt but when you hype up something "First 2d Mario in 17 years and Feels more like SMB3 and World more than NSMB" Then the end result is dissapointing to me I have a right to be fucking mad. I did pay $50 for NSMBW and $30 for NSMB. (too be honest it feels like a crime to sell NSMBW for a full 50 bucks. It's short and lacks the polish of the SMG games but since it has mario on the title Nintendo knows they can sell it for $500 and it would still sell millions. $30 tops. I bet a lot of you are waiting for me to sell my username and avatar right now.) As always I wait your raging responses because my opinion and tastes differ from yours.

@Devil_Rising's post right below me
You are the only one on here that is intelligent and respects peoples opinions. THANK YOU! Seriously people act like they are on the school ground and a kid says "Digimon is cooler than Pokemon" so they get mad at them and say they are stupid because there opinion doesn't match up with theirs. Seriously Grow up!

[Devil_Rising]

WHOA WHOA! Patriot7me stop speaking for me please. Yes I said I hated the NSMB series but did not say they sucked they are quality titles but they felt generic to me in comparison to the SMW and SMB3. Too me it felt like a good effort but not a spectacular one like SMW and SMB3. They just didn't have the magic SMW and SMB3 had. Plus Yoshi is limited (which is not a HUGE problem but is just one of the reasons I enjoyed World more), I didn't like the "multiplayer" (it's just single player with extra players) I liked the Single Player the first time around but I know I won't ever return to it like I had with SMW and SMB3 numerous times.

To each their own. But I personally think NSMBWii is right up there in quality and fun factor with Mario 3 and World. In fact, I'd put it above World, but below 3. And personally, I like that Yoshi is only in certain levels. He doesn't need to be everywhere. And he still plays better than he does in Galaxy 2 (though I think that is also a great game).

[New Age Retro Hippie]

SMG2 will out-rank and out-sell Zelda Wii 2. Why would Zelda Wii 2 have any influence on the console wars?

[motherbra1n]

SMG2 will out-rank and out-sell Zelda Wii 2. Why would Zelda Wii 2 have any influence on the console wars?

the new zelda is gonna be very different to the other zeldas that worked very well. they spent about 4-5 years on it, 4-5 years on a a bad idea or something worse than the current zelda formula (which i absolutely love) and were in for a massive disappointment. 4-5 on something even better than the current zelda formula, then we are in for one heck of a big game.

i trust nintendo, remember when nintendo proved to everyone they can keep metroid prime loyal to the series even if it has a massive change? remember when everyone thought theyre ruining zelda by making it cartoony? are they heading for a hat-trick?

also rumours say theres a really innovative combat system, if thats true and the combat system works, just watch every playstation move game copy that, thats why zelda is so big to the industry

WHOA WHOA! Patriot7me stop speaking for me please. Yes I said I hated the NSMB series but did not say they sucked they are quality titles but they felt generic to me in comparison to the SMW and SMB3. Too me it felt like a good effort but not a spectacular one like SMW and SMB3. They just didn't have the magic SMW and SMB3 had. Plus Yoshi is limited (which is not a HUGE problem but is just one of the reasons I enjoyed World more), I didn't like the "multiplayer" (it's just single player with extra players) I liked the Single Player the first time around but I know I won't ever return to it like I had with SMW and SMB3 numerous times.

you said you hate the nsmb series, therefore to you, they suck, that means you think they suck. is there a problem with that? absolutely not.

ive played the nsmb series but think super mario bros 3 and super mario world were WAAAAAAY better, but i want them to carry on making classic style mario bros games llike that along with the biggies like mario galaxy

multiplayer was an option, and i loved it. but like you, i probably wont go back and play them over again like i have done 50 times with super mario bros 3 and world.

[InvalidRobot]

This is such a silly topic.

[New Age Retro Hippie]

SMG2 will out-rank and out-sell Zelda Wii 2. Why would Zelda Wii 2 have any influence on the console wars?

the new zelda is gonna be very different to the other zeldas that worked very well. they spent about 4-5 years on it, 4-5 years on a a bad idea or something worse than the current zelda formula (which i absolutely love) and were in for a massive disappointment. 4-5 on something even better than the current zelda formula, then we are in for one heck of a big game.

i trust nintendo, remember when nintendo proved to everyone they can keep metroid prime loyal to the series even if it has a massive change? remember when everyone thought theyre ruining zelda by making it cartoony? are they heading for a hat-trick?

also rumours say theres a really innovative combat system, if thats true and the combat system works, just watch every playstation move game copy that, thats why zelda is so big to the industry

Twilight Princess was in development for roughly the same amount of time, so I don't see your point. SMG2 didn't need 4-5 years of development to be the second greatest game ever made, so you trusting Nintendo is a bit naive. At this point we're really just speculating "what if the next Zelda is totally awesome and wicked sweet?"

[motherbra1n]

SMG2 will out-rank and out-sell Zelda Wii 2. Why would Zelda Wii 2 have any influence on the console wars?

the new zelda is gonna be very different to the other zeldas that worked very well. they spent about 4-5 years on it, 4-5 years on a a bad idea or something worse than the current zelda formula (which i absolutely love) and were in for a massive disappointment. 4-5 on something even better than the current zelda formula, then we are in for one heck of a big game.

i trust nintendo, remember when nintendo proved to everyone they can keep metroid prime loyal to the series even if it has a massive change? remember when everyone thought theyre ruining zelda by making it cartoony? are they heading for a hat-trick?

also rumours say theres a really innovative combat system, if thats true and the combat system works, just watch every playstation move game copy that, thats why zelda is so big to the industry

Twilight Princess was in development for roughly the same amount of time, so I don't see your point. SMG2 didn't need 4-5 years of development to be the second greatest game ever made, so you trusting Nintendo is a bit naive. At this point we're really just speculating "what if the next Zelda is totally awesome and wicked sweet?"

yeah well they didnt exactly make that much of an attempt of changing that many things in twilight princess did they, it was just like ocarina of time with a few changes and lots of improvements whereas this new zelda will be fresh, personally i like twilight princess more than both galaxy 1 and 2

[Torus]

It makes me sad when people hate on games just because they do well. I can't stand those who keep saying Mario should have died 3 or 4 years ago, those are also the people who play nothing but generic fps'. I got bored of fps games a few years ago because they are all the same thing just with different guns and a different look.

[motherbra1n]

It makes me sad when people hate on games just because they do well. I can't stand those who keep saying Mario should have died 3 or 4 years ago, those are also the people who play nothing but generic fps'. I got bored of fps games a few years ago because they are all the same thing just with different guns and a different look.

I normally don't defend shooters, but the same can be said about all rpgs, fighting games, racing games, etc.

from the way i see it, the difference between shooters is FAR smaller than the difference between rpgs and adventure games