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The Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See

Postby Joeofmars » 12 Sep 2007 16:33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ

Watch this video.Seriously.

I will not mislead you.It is not a scary video,well...ok.It is,but not in the way you think.

So after you watch it tell me this:

What do you think will happen?

I can honestly see the first and last theories happening.
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Re: The Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See

Postby el_sean » 12 Sep 2007 19:34

This has been posted already...

Here: Global Warming

First of all, I don't see the Global Warming situation happening, because I have yet to see a scientist explain on a molecular level exactly how the CO2 traps the heat. I do believe that the Earth is warming up, just that there's nothing we can do about it.
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Postby LordTyroxx » 12 Sep 2007 19:55

That was a great find! He makes very good points. I have now have it as a favorite and also have posted it to my blog.

Come On!! I was going to reply to this a while ago but found myself watching all of his videos!

He shouldn't get opinions from YouTube though...most people there are jerks.

He also needs to make a website for his content.
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Re: The Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See

Postby Algorithm » 12 Sep 2007 23:34

el_sean wrote:This has been posted already...

Here: Global Warming

First of all, I don't see the Global Warming situation happening, because I have yet to see a scientist explain on a molecular level exactly how the CO2 traps the heat. I do believe that the Earth is warming up, just that there's nothing we can do about it.

Scientists have shown how CO2 as well as the other greenhouse gases cause global warming. The ozone layer naturally traps some of the ultraviolet rays that come in and lets some out (at which point they are infrared rays). With the greenhouse gases being trapped under the ozone layer, we've now got a growing layer that allows for light to enter just as easily, however, it can't escape as easily (because it has the ozone layer plus all of the greenhouse gases building up).
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Postby el_sean » 13 Sep 2007 00:50

There's another problem, though. With the increased heat, we should see more cloud formation (from the increase in evaporation), which reflects a good portion of the sunlight and heat back. Increased clouds means that we will see a cooling trend which will in turn lower the CO2. Only about half of the heat from the Sunlight even reaches Earth, so the increased gasses should also show an increased amount that gets reflected back. These gasses don't behave like a one way door, they block as well as absorb. Also, take a look at a picture of the Milky Way Galaxy:
[img=mini]http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/messier/Pics/More/mwbarsuns.jpg[/img]
The laws of gravity in a nutshell basically say that small objects get attracted to larger objects, right? So that must mean that there's a "Sun" that our sun orbits around. This orbit probably doesn't have a perfectly circular orbit, so it's very possible that the Sun's orbits have seasons too. What we could be seeing is just the Summer for our solar system's orbit, or a "Double Summer". Considering that it takes longer for an orbit like Pluto's to orbit the sun when compared to earth (200 years for Pluto verses Earth's 1.), doesn't it seem reasonable that the Sun's orbit would take millions of years to orbit the Milky Way Galaxy? This would explain the Ice Age perfectly. Are we to believe that the CO2 in the air could really be the cause of this increase in heat? It's very possible, but we are forgetting that the Sun isn't in the center of the Universe; that the Earth doesn't have a consistent Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter Pattern. There are simply too many factors that we aren't considering. In fact it could be very possible that the CO2 levels that are going with the rising and cooling trends are simply a coincidence. Then again, none of us have all the answers, I'm just trying to show some other points of view so we don't make a bunch of foolish mistakes by following the wrong paths.
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Postby LuigiGBA » 13 Sep 2007 10:04

el_sean wrote:There's another problem, though. With the increased heat, we should see more cloud formation (from the increase in evaporation), which reflects a good portion of the sunlight and heat back. Increased clouds means that we will see a cooling trend which will in turn lower the CO2. Only about half of the heat from the Sunlight even reaches Earth, so the increased gasses should also show an increased amount that gets reflected back. These gasses don't behave like a one way door, they block as well as absorb. Also, take a look at a picture of the Milky Way Galaxy:
[img=mini]http://seds.lpl.arizona.edu/messier/Pics/More/mwbarsuns.jpg[/img]
The laws of gravity in a nutshell basically say that small objects get attracted to larger objects, right? So that must mean that there's a "Sun" that our sun orbits around. This orbit probably doesn't have a perfectly circular orbit, so it's very possible that the Sun's orbits have seasons too. What we could be seeing is just the Summer for our solar system's orbit, or a "Double Summer". Considering that it takes longer for an orbit like Pluto's to orbit the sun when compared to earth (200 years for Pluto verses Earth's 1.), doesn't it seem reasonable that the Sun's orbit would take millions of years to orbit the Milky Way Galaxy? This would explain the Ice Age perfectly. Are we to believe that the CO2 in the air could really be the cause of this increase in heat? It's very possible, but we are forgetting that the Sun isn't in the center of the Universe; that the Earth doesn't have a consistent Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter Pattern. There are simply too many factors that we aren't considering. In fact it could be very possible that the CO2 levels that are going with the rising and cooling trends are simply a coincidence. Then again, none of us have all the answers, I'm just trying to show some other points of view so we don't make a bunch of foolish mistakes by following the wrong paths.


Well I respect your opinion however I thnk that there is enough evidence to suggest that we have at least assisted in the increased temperatures and that we have the power to do something and we're not. Although I agree with your central "Sun" theory It is likely a Black hole as no sun would have the power. However assuming that a random theory is correct when there is a lot of evidence to the contrary seems odd. Also whether or not we're the cause we need to do something.
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Postby Jaden » 13 Sep 2007 19:54

this video was very informative. it reminded me of that al gore movie i saw. I think no matter what we do we are going to be screwed. we already messed up the environment and we can't make that quick of a turn around to make it go back to normal.
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Postby aighead » 01 Oct 2007 00:05

el_sean:

Your sun seasons comment is ingenious. I, too, think we are likely in a warm time of the "year" for the sun, and I think it's pretty pretentious to think that we as a human race are causing a temperature difference at all, but I've never heard a warmer sun theory being summed up so precisely... Good job!

My problem is that the manmade global warming folks claim that the CO2 made by our vehicles is causing all these problems, has anyone seen a volcano erupt? It put's us "men" to shame. Earth/Mother Nature/God will allow us to be here as long as they please, then we will be not so kindly asked to leave. I think if we want to complain about something that our cars are doing, how about the smell and noise? That's enough to make me bonkers. Yeah, I realize it's not only cars, but still the effect we have on the earth is minimal in comparison to the effect it has on us. A couple degrees either way could make for a more optimal living environment. I'm tired of shovelling snow anyway.

To think that we can control anything our environment does, in my eyes, is rickdikulous. What do propose to do to keep the earth on it's same axis as it has now? One of these days it's gonna turn on us and we'll all get wet and throwy.

I say that all the people that are freaked out by manmade global warming put all their money in a pot to throw at this mess and when it works and they can prove it was due to their efforts they can point at those who didn't believe and say "I told you so, suck on that!"

Luigi: The evidence you speak of isn't evidence. Evidence would be something you could prove and if it could be proved there would be no debate.
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Postby cortjezter » 01 Oct 2007 19:41

i'm pretty sure we've had global warming debates in another thread, but just my two cents:

honestly, it doesn't really matter whether humankind is affecting the environment and climate. we should be living better and more sustainable either way. doesn't matter if auto emissions are causing ice masses to melt quicker than ever before; we should be looking to alternate forms of transportation.. cleaner, more efficient anyway.

an analogy: it doesn't matter whether you're thin or thick; eating healthy is just a smart way to live.
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Postby aighead » 01 Oct 2007 22:33

it doesn't matter whether you're thin or thick; eating healthy is just a smart way to live.


But should you be forced to live smart? If I don't believe that these things are causing problems should I be forced to buy a cleaner (typically more expensive) car? If I want to drown myself in trans fat (to return to your eating analogy) why should it be anyone's place to stop me? Why is it anyone's place to make me be smart?
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Postby cortjezter » 02 Oct 2007 11:50

aighead wrote:
it doesn't matter whether you're thin or thick; eating healthy is just a smart way to live.


But should you be forced to live smart? If I don't believe that these things are causing problems should I be forced to buy a cleaner (typically more expensive) car? If I want to drown myself in trans fat (to return to your eating analogy) why should it be anyone's place to stop me? Why is it anyone's place to make me be smart?

it wasn't a direct analogy, and was more rhetorical, but anyway.

no, you shouldn't be forced to live according to a specific diet when its only yourself being affected, but when everyone else is at stake, yes, you should have to be considerate. many states/cities around the country are now enacting smoking laws prohibiting smoking inside public places just for that reason. as far as cost... it's really not an issue. a cleaner vehicle for example may cost a little more at point of purchase, but to get a fat tax break the first year will more than offset that extra price, as well as the lesser cost of fuel for the life of it. and again whether or not it makes a greater impact than a volcano or some extreme natural disaster, every little bit helps, so it's better safe and healthy than sorry.

basically, we have to stop thinking selfishly and in the moment--which flies directly in the face of the typical american perspective--and think of other people, not just today, but tomorrow as well. life is never just about ourselves, but also about the people we affect during it. someday our children and beyond will be dealing with our decisions and cursing under their breath. not exactly the legacy most people would like to have :-P
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Postby aighead » 03 Oct 2007 21:51

every little bit helps


My point is that there are people, other than just me, that believe that there is nothing that needs help... Why encourage the mandate to force folks to pay more for a product or attempt to develop the fix to a problem that many folks believe doesn't exist? I don't think that is a selfish way to think/not thinking about the future for our children mentality, I think that's the way it is. I also don't really agree that folks should be getting tax breaks for polution free cars. That is yet another gov't program that doesn't need to be there, but that gets into another debate. As does the smoking issue you bring up that makes me furious, but again, another place and time...

If you ask me the reason our future generations will be cursing us or dealing with our decisions because we allow our governement to make too many decisions for us, and our lovely politicians seem to quickly corrupt into folks that have either their personal agenda at heart or the agenda of folks that make them very rich or powerful. To say that we should be made to be considerate of others goes against just about anything I believe in, because who judges what is considerate and how considerocity proven? It seems mighty big brothery to me, but I'm reading 1984 right now and I've broken off topic a fair amount. :D

This seems to be another one of those religious style debates where folks have their mind made up and there'll be no real effect coming from anything being said. Maybe I'm wrong there and I'm always up for hearing others' perspectives. God bless the internet. :D
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Postby cortjezter » 04 Oct 2007 13:14

ok this thread has gone horribly off course; comment toward the video and take the global warming stuff to its dedicated thread: http://gonintendo.com/messageboards/vie ... php?t=2975

but i will say that aighead's point wasn't missed. in fact it seems he wasn't quite getting mine, because he just kept repeating his own.

MY point is that it doesn't matter what people WANT to do when it comes to the environment, pollution, etc. since it's a public space, there shouldn't be any choice when it comes to whether you are allowed to pollute or not. global warming isn't fake...it's a simple matter of science. the only question is its cause, and while nature plays a role for sure, humankind HAS in fact evolved to a point where it can have an effect on the world, and it's that increased role that is in question; nobody can quite measure that.

anyway, the point is... smoke all you want (privately), eat all the super-size meals you want, lay around and bloat all you want.. it's your personal, private body you can do with as you like. but when it comes to the environment, planet, etc... those are everyone's, so we should all be playing by the lowest common denominator: keeping it as clean and healthy as we CAN affect, no matter how great or small that may be.
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