Serious Discussion:Paint It Black - What is it really about?

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Serious Discussion:Paint It Black - What is it really about?

Postby Joeofmars » 27 Nov 2007 03:22

THIS IS A SERIOUS DISCUSSION. PLEASE REPLY WITH SERIOUS ANSWERS.

OK... I may be acting weird on this one, but is Paint It Black by The Rolling Stones about [spoiler]getting horny?[/spoiler]

I mean... honestly. Did you ever look at the lyrics?

[spoiler]I see a red door and I want it painted black
No colors anymore I want them to turn black
I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes
I have to turn my head until my darkness goes
I see a line of cars and they're all painted black
With flowers and my love both never to come back
I see people turn their heads and quickly look away
Like a new born baby it just happens every day
I look inside myself and see my heart is black
I see my red door and it has been painted black
Maybe then Ill fade away and not have to face the facts
Its not easy facing up when your whole world is black

No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue
I could not foresee this thing happening to you
If I look hard enough into the setting sun
My love will laugh with me before the morning comes

I see a red door and I want it painted black
No colors anymore I want them to turn black
I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes
I have to turn my head until my darkness goes
Hmm, hmm, hmm,...
I wanna see it painted, painted black
Black as night, black as coal
I wanna see the sun blotted out from the sky
I wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted black
Yeah![/spoiler]

Now, I'm not joking around. Here is some evidence.

[spoiler]I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes
I have to turn my head until my darkness goes[/spoiler]

He sees girls in summer clothes. Could those summer clothes be bikinis? Could they just be shorts? Who knows? Though I think either would be enough to make a man happy.

He talks about his 'darkness' . Is this 'darkness' what he contains inside his pants? I think so.

[spoiler]I see people turn their heads and quickly look away
Like a new born baby it just happens every day
I look inside myself and see my heart is black[/spoiler]

He sees people turn away? Have they seen his 'darkness'? I think so.
Like a newborn baby it happens every day? Let me ask you, do you get 'happy' every day? I think so.
When he looks inside himself to see his heart black, is that him being ashamed? I think so.

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While this may seem like a funny topic( I know it is) for my first serious discussion, I want serious responses from people. Also, I have no clue why, but I really want to know what Zidane and Cort have to say on this subject, I don't know, I just do.

Do you think what I'm saying is true? What do you think the song is about? Am I just being really perverted?[/b]
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Postby NintendoWiiForever » 27 Nov 2007 03:27

it is extremely obvious that the first lyric is in fact about that. it s exactly as it sounds no need to pick it part.
besides that first lyric i cannot really say i agree.
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Postby cortjezter » 27 Nov 2007 04:31

i think it could definitely be interpreted that way. my takeaway is a little less specific.

to me it seems the author is suffering the guilt of having done something sinful, immoral, etc... indulge in sexual fantasy for example, and the black is him internally reacting to and working through that regret or guilt.

just my two cents :)
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Postby Joeofmars » 27 Nov 2007 04:46

cortjezter wrote:i think it could definitely be interpreted that way. my takeaway is a little less specific.

to me it seems the author is suffering the guilt of having done something sinful, immoral, etc... indulge in sexual fantasy for example, and the black is him internally reacting to and working through that regret or guilt.

just my two cents :)


Yup, I knew you would have a good take on it. That is exactly what I think, he did something he is regreting (Sexually).
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Postby blueger » 27 Nov 2007 05:35

I think you might be taking this a bit too far. I think the Stones intended it to be interpreted however you see fit. It's not one of their better song IMO anyway.

As for Welcome to the Jungle, I have my own theory about that.
[spoiler]HE SAYS FEEL MY SERPENTINE!?! is it any more obvious than that?!?[/spoiler]
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Postby Joeofmars » 27 Nov 2007 05:56

blueger wrote:I think you might be taking this a bit too far. I think the Stones intended it to be interpreted however you see fit. It's not one of their better song IMO anyway.

As for Welcome to the Jungle, I have my own theory about that.
[spoiler]HE SAYS FEEL MY SERPENTINE!?! is it any more obvious than that?!?[/spoiler]


Yes, I can see where you're going with.

"You're a very sexy girl, very hard to please" I love thats song ^_^
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Postby toadnlink » 28 Nov 2007 19:34

for some reason, I always thought of it as being more depressed then regretting something or being horny. It's like he lost his loved one or she cheated on him and he is in a massive depression. So he wants everything to be black. But that's just me.
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Postby alice_curiouser » 28 Nov 2007 21:40

I always thought it was about depression, or perhaps a more sinister mental illness, especially the lines:

Maybe then Ill fade away and not have to face the facts
Its not easy facing up when your whole world is black


When he talks about turning away from the girls, I thought he might want to hurt them, because his heart is black. Wanting to see the sun blotted out from the sky sounds like suicide.

Of course it IS Mick, so his "darkness" may well just be... something else. ;)
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Postby Zidane » 29 Nov 2007 00:14

I've always felt that the song was about an outcast or some angry loner who can't work well with society. He doesn't want to be bothered by happy people thats why he wants everything to be black. When he talks about the girls in summer clothes, it doesn't have to mean a bikini. It could be clothes that are just bright. I understand what you're saying about it being sexual, it is the Rolling Stones after all.
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Postby cortjezter » 29 Nov 2007 00:20

toadnlink wrote:for some reason, I always thought of it as being more depressed then regretting something or being horny. It's like he lost his loved one or she cheated on him and he is in a massive depression. So he wants everything to be black. But that's just me.


yeah.. that was the other thing that hit me, though depression is a much more obvious--and possibly correct--takeaway. the author... emo?? lol.

there are so many interpretations one can derive from it i think..and that's how poetry should be in my opinion; that's how i write my own anyway. there has been speculation in the past about mick jagger's experimentation with the occult and homosexuality, which during those times would certainly make living with such 'secrets' a dark world indeed. even just those two things put a whole different spin on the lyrics...

then again, on a more uplifting note, black is THE colour for rock n roll...it could just be a metaphor for bringing rock music to the world, especially since it was so new back then.
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Postby NES_Master » 04 Dec 2007 12:33

wow. This is a cool topic. Maybe we should do more of these.

I always thought of "Paint it Black" was a song about mental illness or depression. I never thought of the sexual reffrences in the song.
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