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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby jasonmaivia » 22 Sep 2011 23:56

Are most of those who cause trouble still around on the site or on IRC?
If not, then it may not be so hard to get things moving peacefully again.
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby Wiggymaster » 23 Sep 2011 00:10

Alright. Tonight is the night - now is the time that I sever all ties and break all bonds of fellowship. I'm going to provide a fully accurate, eye witness account of the past year of the #gonintendo chat room. Whether people elect to believe this account is up to them - I really couldn't care less if you don't. I'm not going to sit and provide logs/timestamps/finderprints/forensic evidence because I've done that enough in the past, and it was all schluffed off anyway. I'm going to name names, throw people under the bus, violate ancient taboos, dig up some ancient Indian burial grounds, piss on the bodies, and bury them again upside down. I don't know nor do I care what the end result will be, but I'm going to have a lot of fun doing it!

First and foremost, I'm done caring about whether or not this chat room dies. I've played the role of the Lorax of the chat room for the last several years, being the sole voice speaking for the trees, and trying my best to give suggestions based on experience running IRC networks to those at the top on how to maintain a 'happy' chat room. I'm done. As often overstated, one definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. With that in mind, I refuse to continue to beat my head against the wall, and have joined with several (read as: the overwhelming majority) of the #gonintendo regulars to float off through the smog and start our own community.

Over the past year, two things have been made agonizingly clear to me:

a) Nobody engaged with this site in any official capacity has the intelligence, experience, common sense or plain old give-a-damn necessary to operate a successful IRC channel, and,

b) Nobody engaged with this site is going to set aside their own will to dominate all life long enough to listen to anyone outside of the voices in their own heads.

I've been on IRC the greater part of my life at this point. I got involved in the Windows 3.1/28.8k modem days using mIRC16. I still remember the day mIRC32 came out. I've witnessed the birth and death of many channels as well as entire networks, and can recognize the final throes of either one just as surely as I can recognize my own hand. Understanding this, I'm using this post as less of any kind of suggestion and more of an autopsy for a community name I've now been a part of for over half a decade. I'm also going to detail what lead up to this fate, which will read something along the lines of a cancer pathology. Some people won't like it. I really couldn't give a rat's ass at this point. The reality of the situation needs to be made abundantly clear.

As to be fair, I'll break this section into parts to address individual people/groups of people.

To the non-regulars, non-IRCers, very occasional chatters or those who just join the room during the podcast hours:

When I joined #gonintendo during the "Revolution" days, the channel was thriving with an average of 40-50 users daily. Most of these users would join several days of the week, and not just during the times 'events' which occurred on the site/in the media, or when big news was announced. We who are regulars are all that's left of that original crowd of people. We were just like you, but rather than disappearing at the end of such an event, we stuck around. We didn't all like each other - far from it - but we liked the chat room because it was a good place to hang out with gamers. Those who remained did what we could to try to draw you into this fold in the best way we could. In the end, we really couldn't help you. Short of site intervention and more events, there was no way we were going to get you to stick around. Some of you mentioned that you don't like the 'noisy' format, have "grown out of chat" or find it too confusing for you... In such cases there's really nothing anyone do for you to make it better. IRC is what it is, and it's not for everyone. A few weeks ago in a last ditch effort to clear up the cancer I made the suggestion to Cort that he should have more site events to garner people like you in hopes that you may stick. I even suggested bringing game bots into the channel... but in the end, simple real-time text-based communication is what IRC is about, not games or events. For the 'casual', there really isn't much draw, and if that's you, well, we come from two different worlds.

I'll let it be known that for a long time I personally would tend to go out of my way to try to engage podcast chatters in conversation, and 90% of the time the response I'd get would be random shouts toward RMC (who, by the way, has joined the chat room a single digit number of times in the past couple years)... which were made in the hopes of, I guess, being famous and getting attention from their bearded hero. For those whose only goal is to "get on TV", the chat has little nothing to offer you. I'll grant that some of the regulars have been somewhat derisive of this crowd, but even that has an obvious psychology to it. The mass exodus at the end of every show serves as nothing but a bitter reminder of how little most of the people come to this site care about its IRC extension. If anything, any "attitude" received from regulars is a result of them gazing with melancholy bemusement as the list shrinks from 50+ people to a little less than 30 every week. Having the air let out of your tires on a weekly basis tends to leave a bad taste in the mouth of the people who care about those tires.. so what motivation do they have to be more than simply tolerant of this crowd?

All this aside, if any of you were concerned that you had an effect on the chat room imploding over the last couple days (*snicker*), you need not worry in the slightest. This tumor has been growing for a long time, and its now fully metastasized, spreading, and terminal.

To the ops, current and former, many of whom now join me in our tantrum room:

I. Warned. You. All. And like the Lorax, I was either ignored, balked at or sometimes aggressively pushed aside. You're not faultless, as a little less than a year ago you really were the problem. You were quickly becoming a club to which even the most of the non-opped regulars of the channel did not belong, and you did not care what they thought and went on as though you could do whatever you wanted with no consequences. Ironically enough, I managed to gain your collective attention during that little episode to make all of you (save for Kolma) realize what you were doing. The grand majority of you either mellowed out or started to realize that houses of cards can come quickly tumbling down if not properly secured with adhesive tape. That said, you continued to stick to cards rather than even straw or sticks, let alone bricks, and coddled and caressed the big bad crazy wolves when they came knocking on your door. They've now successfully huffed, puffed, and blown your house in. That said, I believe in the value of learning from mistakes, and I hope that you've learned valuable lessons from all of this (first and foremost that Wiggymaster is always right :P).

To the other regulars:

Some of you tolerate me. Some of you hate my guts. Most of you begrudgingly put up with my ranting because it's amusing, and somewhere, deep in those dark places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you NEED ME ON THAT WALL.. oh, whoops, wrong scenario. :P There is a silver lining to this, and it's that you may now understand that your community can't be torn down by anyone but yourselves. You really do not have to take this kind of rubbish if you don't want to. You are not bound to represent this website or be "subordinate" to anyone. You're as free as you wish, and just because a name changes doesn't mean a person, soul, or community does.

To cortjezter:

A year ago, I credited you for the work you put into the site, and criticized you for allowing the chat room to be sucked down into the tenth level of hell. Your response was that I was the only one complaining, and therefore there was no issue. Finally, a little less than a month ago, you realized that Kolma really wasn't a good op, but it was the right thing for the entirely wrong reasons. Kolma's decision to ban the person he banned and to op the person he opped was the first correct thing he's done in a long time. Again - it may have been the right things for the wrong reasons - but the cancer that has spread so quickly has been a direct result of that user (who I will get to soon), and something I was 'Loraxing' about to the other ops for quite sometime. Again, I'll get to that below, but to finish here, you've let me and a lot of people down big time. You went from completely abandoning the chat room to getting directly involved to solve a direct attack on your ego authority, only to push it off to another person who, admittedly, even I had faith in. Speaking of which...

To t27duck:

• What we expected:

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• What we got:

<!t27duck> if the room dies, the room dies. I'm pretty much the life support due to cort's imcompetence [sic] and the regulars being a bunch of d*cks. when/if it dies, i'll just go back to the AllGames room on gamesurge

I've really not much left to say to you at this point. You've taken something very near and dear to me and run a knife through it in a way I never would've expected. I'd joke with you about such things, but never once did I imagine a seriously malicious bone in your body. Regardless, you're the Matt Millen of #gonintendo. Your poisonous cross between bungling decisions and rampaging, immature cries of "I OWN EVERYTHING NOW AND YOU CAN SUBMIT OR GET LOST" has ruined the place. The worst part of all of it is the sense of personal betrayal - the fact that you catered to crazies like valesmith (to those reading and not familiar, a malicious user who ended up being akilled from the entire network) over my word was sickening enough. To go forward and alienate the entire chat room and declare yourself emperor after talking about how much you agreed with me on my little 'bill of rights' (which I sent to you to emphasize the freedom of thought that should be present in a chat room, and how users who flood/spam or have proven themselves TROLLS should be the ones sanctioned) is quite the slap in the face to say the least. Regardless, you've now made your own bed, and you now get to sleep with the people who are only still there to gather ammunition against you in the hopes of seeing you go the way of the paper bag in Detroit.

Last but hardly the least (despised):

The wonderful thing about the internet is that it is, for people like me, the last bastion of let-your-guard-down sanity on the planet. Modern day professional life dictates that you conform to a very specific image, and that to be successful you must dance this dance and avoid speaking your mind, laughing at things that are funny, or otherwise demonstrating the real you. In the work place, so many ridiculous 'P.C.' rules and regulations have been put into place that it boggles the mind how so many people can manage to not be sued, let alone remain employed. I'm thoroughly convinced that the internet saved our society from going completely insane from boxing itself in so hard. The grace of the internet is that, here, everyone's on equal ground. For the most part, you're anonymous, and provided you don't do overtly stupid things like threaten the president, you do not need to worry about someone coming for you in the night. I'm in no way advocating internet terrorism or malicious use, mind you, but I am lauding the fact that it's a place where you can let your hair down and be a bit more liberal than you can be with people in person.

With that in mind, there are a small percentage of internet users who, for whatever reason, wish to change this. These people react to jokes as though they were bullets shot from a fence line. These poor creatures are, generally, suffering from one of two afflictions - either they're completely crazy (and I do mean crazy in the literal sense of the term - mentally deficient), or they're White Knights™ who wish to ride to the rescue of said crazy people. Both cases define The Cancer That's Killing #Gonintendo, and are, in my humble opinion, the cause of just about every bit of e-drama to ever be penned, and the NUMBER ONE (1) cause of community death on the internet.

(Skip to the end if you're already familiar with the situation or do not care about the account of specific events)

First, allow me to replay the events of the current situation. For those who aren't in the know, a particular user who falls into the first category, was banned from the chat room by nothing short of UNANIMOUS consensus among both moderators and users. He is one half of the cause of the great protests that have erupted (the other half being t27duck, playing the role of White Knight/arsonist). He's proven himself a tad smarter than the average wingnut, mind you, as he's rather manipulative and opportunistic when he wants to be. That said, he is a wingnut, make no mistake... or perhaps the very best actor I've ever encountered online.

A little over a year ago, this fellow joined our chat room and we were more that tolerant of him at first. He was definitely a tad strange, often engaging in conversations that resemble this one and generally annoyed most of the user base. Be that as it may, we'd still deal with him. I even played Smash Bros. with him several times. Then the inevitable jokes started. He did not respond well to this. He would, in fact, throw VIOLENT tantrums any time a joke was made which he didn't like. I'll admit - I'd provoke him as much as the next person, but what was it that got him so upset? A simple obviously joking running gag that his banter would cause him to lose IQ points, measured by a meter. This is something I've probably applied to a dozen people in that room and others, some of whom I'm actually pretty good acquaintances with. That said, any reference to it, or for that matter anything else he didn't like, would cause him to fly into an uncontrolled rage in which he DEMANDED respect (cause, you know, flying into a rage on IRC wins you lots of that) and that anyone who offended him be banned (especially me).

Over time, this behavior only increased, and I was hardly the trigger of all of it (just a preferred target, as he'd occasionally mention my name and how evil I was to him in the middle of such break downs even when I hadn't been online all day). He began to take issue with anyone who said anything to him, claim that he was being ganged up on by the users, and otherwise lobbied for our collective executions, swearing up and down that everyone but him was the problem. Most of the ops rightfully ignored him. A few took pity on him, and gave him quite a bit more leniency than they would any other user. They also ignored my warnings that crazy people are crazy and need not be on the internet. We had been through all of this with |cdarr|, another mentally deficient user who can be fine one minute and flooding the channel the next.

That said, Ice continued to make |cdarr| look tame by comparison. The situation progressively worsened, as did the situation of Kolma being an op. It got to the point where I'd had enough, and left the channel for nearly a month with no real intention of coming back. I can't speak for what went on during my absence. During this period of time, I learned that Ice was permanently banned from the chat room, and as such, decided to take his concerns to Cort in an effort to overrule/smear Kolma (an irony, as Kolma originally was his first White Knight). To make a long story short, an op named \g (ironically a black man) used the term negro, which for whatever reason was termed racist and worthy of demotion by cortjezter. A sh*tstorm ensued as Kolma fought him on this, and I rejoined because I figured whatever the outcome, some good had to come of it. Instead, it got much worse.

t27duck "decided" he was going to take over the chat room, granted with much encouragement from me and other users who figured this would be a new chance to finally gain sound and sane decision making. However, the past few weeks have been anything but. One particular situation involved me coming online from work during my lunchbreak to encounter a user (valesmith) who was banned the previous weekend for flooding the chat room during the Dragon Quest X event. I was under the impression that his ban had not yet expired, and expressed this. HIs response was to flood the chat room with obscenities and other rubbish. I ignored the user, t27duck's response was to kick my at-home client which I keep connected in order to catch up with conversations when I feel like signing on at the end of the day. Needless to say, I wasn't happy, but Ragnarok convinced me this was just a mistake based upon "inexperience" and that I should let it go, and come back. One week later, valesmith was akilled from the network for flooding other chat rooms.


Boring stories end here. The current situation is what it is because t27duck has pointedly decided to remove Ice's ban and let him back into the chat room, despite every single moderator's disagreement. His response to the obvious and expected protest of the user base was, in so many words, "f--- you. Leave if you don't like it." With that in mind, many of us have taken his advice.

My final thought:

As I stated before, I no longer hold any ties to that room nor do I care of its fate. I'm not going to be a part of a community that puts the insanity defense above common sense, nor will I ever submit to the thought police. As a red-blooded American adult of sound mind and body (ok, at least sound mind) I'm going to make jokes about the things I find to be funny and there isn't a damned thing anyone's going to do to stop me. Living with a 64 year old mother who suffers from depression and bipolar disorder, I know a thing or two about mental illness. I know how to be patient and deal with people who can't take jokes or who are overly sensitive to the most trivial things. I also know that letting her go online would be a mistake akin to detonating a thermonuclear device in my living room.

Just as I am not responsible for children who are incapable of handling themselves amongst an adult group of people, I am not responsible for babysitting or coddling the mentally ill and mentally handicapped who happen to wander onto the internet. I am of the firm belief that all three of these groups do not belong in online communities at all, as they are not capable of making responsible decisions among groups of strangers. The federal government prohibits children under the age of 13 from entering any online community without parental consent and supervision, and people like Ice, |cdarr|, and others who are mentally deficient qualify as children as far as I'm concerned. Now, unfortunately, I don't rule the world (yet), and the courts have determined that despite the overwhelming risk to the health of the mentally ill that the internet poses, they need no version of COPPA. Fact is, I don't want to be around any more ticking time bombs than I have to be.

Between the mental and the mental-less leadership, the chat room's problem is two-fold at this point, and that's two too many. I've said my farewells, as has around half the user base. It's all over, including the shouting.

#gonintendo is already dead as far as I'm concerned. Just a faraway thought.
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby jasonmaivia » 23 Sep 2011 00:25

I didn't know anyone had this much feeling about the situation.
Let me be the first to apologize for anything that may seem offensive, if you can think of any.
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby thegame85 » 23 Sep 2011 01:06

As a chatroom regular since 2006, it's really sad to see it come to this. I'll be the first to admit that I don't like the chat during podcast time. It reminds me of movies where a small group of people are enjoying a gathering and then a ****storm of uninvited people show up, make a huge mess, then leave when the booze runs out. I understand IRC isn't for everyone, but to say the chat is dead (at least during late afternoon/early evening times) is inaccurate. I genuinely believed that if you are a fan of gaming you could really enjoy yourself and find some great conversations. The Wii has basically been on life support for the past 18 months and the 3DS is just getting rolling with more games. You can't really blame us if we don't wanna swap FC's for BRAWL or some other game that came out 3 years ago. Those of us with other systems have moved on to more recent games. I am happy to say I'm part of the #borderlands chatroom and I think we're all looking forward to good times and new memories!
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby CrispyGoomba » 23 Sep 2011 01:10

After reading, what Wiggymaster described, the situation, I am glad to announce that I laughed so hard at this, that I literally started crying. I thought someone had committed suicide or something by the way you guys were talking about this crap. But like always, it was just a lame story. Sounds to me like typical internet 'drama'. I mean seriously? Get over it, go play some games, and be happy.

Anyways, good read.
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby Wiggymaster » 23 Sep 2011 01:21

CrispyGoomba wrote:After reading, what Wiggymaster described, the situation, I am glad to announce that I laughed so hard at this, that I literally started crying. I thought someone had committed suicide or something by the way you guys were talking about this crap. But like always, it was just a lame story. Sounds to me like typical internet 'drama'. I mean seriously? Get over it, go play some games, and be happy.

Anyways, good read.


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And I agree, of course, the whole situation is pretty damned lame. I'm sorry if you can't understand what it means to feel like you belong somewhere, and to be sad when that somewhere is turned into a parking lot or an old folks country club for the sake of more monies. I assure you that I'm well and mighty over it, but there was a time when I cared a great deal about that room and what became of it. This is merely a final tribute to that time, and to those memories, because believe it or not, they can be made in such places.
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby cortjezter » 23 Sep 2011 04:02

my god.. that whole wiggy post earlier is one of the most epic things i've ever seen. a pity that as a rant it does not fulfil anything on-topic from the OP; but i just don't have the heart to delete it. might be the first and only exception to the off-topic rule i have allowed to date or ever will going forward ;)

although as a point of clarification, even though he was only partially specific about my involvement in the recent events, the actual purpose for taking any action--which i addressed in my earlier posts--is not at all what he and some others think it was. any issues involving ice or /g did not directly cause me to pursue changing the guard. it was bigger staff-related concerns, pure and simple. i left any other moderating/banning/etc duties to the team as they saw fit to be fair, and have gone about correcting the staff-related issues only.

getting back on topic, it's the tidying of our moderator team that i think gives us the chance to improve the room in other ways as well, which is ultimately what this thread is about. anything not to directly related to that unfortunately doesn't belong in this thread, and will be handled accordingly. let's get back to what ideas/opinions people have for making the kind of chat they want!
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby t27duck » 23 Sep 2011 07:37

For the record, the chat room isn't JUST for talking about gaming. It's a way for GN people or anyone else to more easily communicate in real time.

@ Wiggy's Post: LMAO.

<!t27duck> if the room dies, the room dies. I'm pretty much the life support due to cort's imcompetence [sic] and the regulars being a bunch of d*cks. when/if it dies, i'll just go back to the AllGames room on gamesurge


And yes, I did say that line. Because it's just a chatroom. IRC channels can be made on the fly (that's where about 15 people have moved to hang out now). Channels come and go. There are servers all over the world. Life goes on. We already have enough internet drama on the forums and in comments. When someone's in the room that you don't like, ignore them. There's even a set of IRC commands to do it. Don't provoke them. Provoking people just to get them to rage quit is a dick move. If they come back, don't jump on them. Do not poke fun at them if you know they don't like being poked at! Heck, even after the mass exodus of regulars, chat still continued. Lively conversations happened.

As far as my jab at goes goes, he is rarely in the chat room (subtle hint to at least be idling in there, you're plastered all over the rest of the site and forums). I felt the dealing with \g was more of a gut reaction and some of his original requirements for reorganizing Ops were lacking. Running a forum is much different than running a chatroom. So that's the main reason why I took over. You come to me with your user problems. Don't run to cort. ... plus his Internet has suddenly become very crappy so getting him on IM to come to an agreement on a refreshed Op list has been a PITA and I'd really like to get this going.

I believed Ice's current ban was uncalled for (yes he has been known to cause some issues in the past, but bringing cort in on account of the \g incident didn't deserve the ban) so I lifted it. I even did it early on Orange_Cat's request. If people can not handle having one specific user in the room without immediately jumping on him or bashing any of his friends that hang out in that other channel to the point where you're so much in rage that you can't just leave them alone and ignore them (either by *gasp* self-control or using the tools built in to your client or the server) then I think it is you who have the problem. You're projecting a very bad image on not only yourself, but to the channel.

@ Cort: One can say your entire first paragraph is off-topic too. Would be a shame if something would happen to it. ;)
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby jasonmaivia » 23 Sep 2011 16:09

thegame85 wrote:The Wii has basically been on life support for the past 18 months and the 3DS is just getting rolling with more games. You can't really blame us if we don't wanna swap FC's for BRAWL or some other game that came out 3 years ago. Those of us with other systems have moved on to more recent games.



I'm talking about games that were new at the time. For years, I've been asking for friendcodes for popular and not-so-popular games like Mario Kart, Brawl, Goldeneye, Samurai Warriors III, and many others, around the time they were released, and I still do today. I've never gotten any codes from GoNintendo members, but luckily for me, I was able to trade with GameFAQs and Nintendo World Report members.
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby Kolma » 23 Sep 2011 16:23

jasonmaivia wrote:
thegame85 wrote:The Wii has basically been on life support for the past 18 months and the 3DS is just getting rolling with more games. You can't really blame us if we don't wanna swap FC's for BRAWL or some other game that came out 3 years ago. Those of us with other systems have moved on to more recent games.



I'm talking about games that were new at the time. For years, I've been asking for friendcodes for popular and not-so-popular games like Mario Kart, Brawl, Goldeneye, Samurai Warriors III, and many others, around the time they were released, and I still do today. I've never gotten any codes from GoNintendo members, but luckily for me, I was able to trade with GameFAQs and Nintendo World Report members.


I never traded fc's with random people that popped into the chat.
Not because i was against new people but because it is after all a FRIEND code, so i only traded them with people i knew were staying in the chat, and not every joe shmoe
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby jasonmaivia » 23 Sep 2011 16:45

I've been around since around 2007, but didn't register until a while afterward. I didn't think I was still considered a stranger after Goldeneye was released, even when I've been posting on this site for a long while.
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby Wiggymaster » 23 Sep 2011 17:16

Kolma wrote:
jasonmaivia wrote:
thegame85 wrote:The Wii has basically been on life support for the past 18 months and the 3DS is just getting rolling with more games. You can't really blame us if we don't wanna swap FC's for BRAWL or some other game that came out 3 years ago. Those of us with other systems have moved on to more recent games.



I'm talking about games that were new at the time. For years, I've been asking for friendcodes for popular and not-so-popular games like Mario Kart, Brawl, Goldeneye, Samurai Warriors III, and many others, around the time they were released, and I still do today. I've never gotten any codes from GoNintendo members, but luckily for me, I was able to trade with GameFAQs and Nintendo World Report members.


I never traded fc's with random people that popped into the chat.
Not because i was against new people but because it is after all a FRIEND code, so i only traded them with people i knew were staying in the chat, and not every joe shmoe


I was always up to play Brawl with anyone... hell I'd sit and ask "anyone wanna brawl?" constantly during the podcast, only to be met with awkward silence...

The regulars can tell you how much I was willing to play Brawl... cause they'd never play with me! :P

Anyway... I'd also have played Conduit, or any of the other games I had. I didn't have Goldeneye. Either way, if people wanted to play games I'd have known about it cause I was the main one asking to play with people :P
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby cortjezter » 23 Sep 2011 17:33

so yeah, you can also connect with other users in our game database if you want to exchange FC.

how about getting back to what people would like to see from the chat or do with it? perhaps an idea for events we could do to attract some people, and build a habit for people to come by?
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby Kolma » 23 Sep 2011 18:10

cortjezter wrote:so yeah, you can also connect with other users in our game database if you want to exchange FC.

how about getting back to what people would like to see from the chat or do with it? perhaps an idea for events we could do to attract some people, and build a habit for people to come by?


I think most of us want it back to how it was (before ice), cept some of the regulars be less douchy, and there are ocassional irc only events or something *shrugs*
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Re: Discussion about chat

Postby Ice » 24 Sep 2011 14:35

I would like to say that really, I'm sincerely sorry and I've wanted to start over for months, but when I came back to the chatroom, people freaked out without even me doing anything. What did I do? I just sat back and grabbed some popcorn and watched it all happen. I find it all amusing but at the same time, I'm willing to make a peaceful compromise, if you're gonna let just the PRESENCE of a user ruin things well that's on you. All I know is, I tried being peaceful right when I came back after the ban. I still will be peaceful. Sure maybe some of my past behaviors have been questionable however, what is the point of freaking out when then you end up the ones causing drama. I mean really, think about the behavior showed for those of you who stayed just a few more hours before leaving. What did I even do? I just sat back, ate popcorn and watched it all happen. I will say this right now, I will be happy with either result and I will feel like a winner. If people want to be immature and not let bygones be bygones, I'm gonna just sit back and laugh. If you all wanna come back and be peaceful, I'd accept it with open arms.

I run another community on the same server known as Operation Rainfall in the official IRC chatroom as the IRC Coordinator and you know, obviously, if I can run a stable community, I can be stable when given chances and warmed acceptance and this has never been been much of a problem for me on any other IRC server or chatroom community. Lately I've enjoyed myself in the chatroom as of late because it's been so calm and so anti-dramatic and there's no reason for me to be angry. I'm happy now and I've never felt happier in the official IRC Chatroom of GoNintendo at any other time. I'm getting along with new users and feeling like I'm at home. I feel like I'm at home, that's something I should feel. I am a stable person but with a bunch of misunderstandings around that I've been trying to prove false, it's kind of hard for me to shake it off.

Whatever the case may be, I'm happier with the new management of GoNintendo, I'm happy with the way t27duck has done things and I like corts decision on t27duck being GoNintendo's IRC coordinator, because honestly, as much as there may look like there's a "war" going on...look at the room now, it's just such a plus where everyone can freely talk without feeling like they have to fit in part of a clique or stick to such a standard. I love t27duck with all of my heart and have nothing but respect for the guy now. I've moved on from events in the past and I don't care anymore, but I'm completely happy with how things are going, I love seeing the new users pop in and chatting with them, I love the peacefulness and everything. I'm getting along with people and I feel so happy I could play Celine Dion songs in the background of this whole entire environment. I could honestly cry in happiness. I'm ready to move on with or without support from the ex-regulars. I feel happy and I don't want this peace within the room to go away.
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