Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

[KingBroly]

if they can't do 1080p at 60fps with a r770 and a current tri core power pc chip, then I'm sorry, they fail. If the system can't do one or the other as a matter of hardware then the hardware is even more gimped then they have let on.

Considering some developers can't hit 720p and/or 30 fps this generation, I suggest you focus your anger elsewhere. Why? Because it's going to continue. A lot of developers don't want to make games anymore. They want to make movies at $60 a piece. 24 fps is fine for them because it's 'what you get in the movies.'

[gtt]

if they can't do 1080p at 60fps with a r770 and a current tri core power pc chip, then I'm sorry, they fail. If the system can't do one or the other as a matter of hardware then the hardware is even more gimped then they have let on.

Considering some developers can't hit 720p and/or 30 fps this generation, I suggest you focus your anger elsewhere. Why? Because it's going to continue. A lot of developers don't want to make games anymore. They want to make movies at $60 a piece. 24 fps is fine for them because it's 'what you get in the movies.'

to be fair, this generation is using hardware much inferior to a r770. and much less memory.

[KingBroly]

My point is that developers show no signs of changing their tunes to make a high, locked framerate the standard. Developers would rather push the shiny than good control.

[Serpent_Seed]

Well i assume it would be able to do 60fps just not everyone uses it.

[LegendofZelda1996]

Even if the Wii U can do 60 fps, third party developers will still bad mouth Nintendo anyway.

[Serpent_Seed]

May be so. I only have a 720P TV so will that even let me see 60FPS if it's a 1080 title?

[KingBroly]

Framerates don't exactly work like that. Developers usually plan around a framerate/resolution when making games.

[gtt]

May be so. I only have a 720P TV so will that even let me see 60FPS if it's a 1080 title?

only if the developers are as good as random no name pc developers from 30 years ago.

ie, if the system detects it is at a lower resolution than target, than more resources can be devoted to frame rate. You know, when you need to upgrade but cant afford it, run at a lower res than your display to get a playable frame rate.

or, the gpu will keep rendering at 1080p and let the tv downscale it. which ever.

[Serpent_Seed]

I'm just not going to worry. I'm not getting a 1080 TV for some time. Maybe next year around Black Friday.

[HylianTom]

I'm just not going to worry. I'm not getting a 1080 TV for some time. Maybe next year around Black Friday.

Same here, although my love for the smaller plasma in the bedroom has me dreaming of a large plasma in the living room. I really, really enjoy the picture on that television. The old DLP that we currently have in the living room looks a bit too washed-out.. not very crisp.

But then again, plasmas gulp kilowatts, and we're aiming to go solar in the next year or so. hmm.

[Serpent_Seed]

I have a 19" 720P TV I got on black Friday this year. Just decided to get it and didn't realize it was 720 till I got it. It's a long story. Anyways, I'm looking for a 40" but I did see a 39" for less than $300. Wonder if all these 3D and smart TV's will drive the price of regular 1080P TV's down. how long till I can see a 1080P, 40" TV for $200?

[gtt]

I have a 19" 720P TV I got on black Friday this year. Just decided to get it and didn't realize it was 720 till I got it. It's a long story. Anyways, I'm looking for a 40" but I did see a 39" for less than $300. Wonder if all these 3D and smart TV's will drive the price of regular 1080P TV's down. how long till I can see a 1080P, 40" TV for $200?

yea, I think they will drive down the price of regular displays. and good, I don't need a 3d or smart tv. I have my ps3 for the apps

[Serpent_Seed]

That's great. no interest in 3d or smart TV's. Just want a regular 1080P about 40".

[CorusFace]

Let's wrap this back around to the Wii U....

[Serpent_Seed]

I want the Wii U. Back on subject. I'm hoping day 1.

[KingBroly]

I'll get Wii U on Day 1 IF Nintendo has a game or two I want on Day 1. If Assassin's Creed 3 comes to it, I will buy it for Wii U; same goes for Resident Evil 6. Not COD though, since I hate COD.


MORE INFO FROM THE INFO GODS!
- Wii U will support patching from Day 1, like PS3 where all updates can be installed at once (360 version stores updates to your cache, and is constantly recycled)

[Serpent_Seed]

So it will be like install data on PS3? Games I'm looking forward too are Batman Arkham City (Just played AA on PS3), Tekken (Might not be a launch title), WWE '13 (Feel it might be a launch). I'm planning to play Lego Harry Potter Years 1-4 to see if i like Lego games for if Lego City Stories comes. If enough people i know get a shooter then I will too.

[KingBroly]

Patching games will be similar, basically. Instead of 5mb files, expect like 50-150mb files.

[ddddd]

How about full game instals?

[Serpent_Seed]

well those installs on PS3 sometimes take 1GB or more. So if patching takes less space like what you said, that would be awesome.

[KingBroly]

How about full game instals?

I haven't heard anything, and I'd guess no until Nintendo puts retail games on the Wii U Shop. I don't know how fast the disc drive is, though. I'd say at least a 2, which would mean it's a lot better than what PS3 has, and near what 360 has, if not on par.

[gtt]

How about full game instals?

from nintendo? for retail games? not on your life or mine.

[KingBroly]

They said Retail games will come to Wii U and 3DS eventually. I imagine at that point they'll allow you to run games off of an external HDD, if you've got it.

Also, I heard a bit of an...interesting tip a couple of weeks ago that I can now dreadfully dance around.

[gtt]

They said Retail games will come to Wii U and 3DS eventually. I imagine at that point they'll allow you to run games off of an external HDD, if you've got it.

Also, I heard a bit of an...interesting tip a couple of weeks ago that I can now dreadfully dance around.

when I say retail I mean games you bought in a store on a disc. and by install I mean not having to have the disc in to play it.

[Jack_Atlas]

They said Retail games will come to Wii U and 3DS eventually. I imagine at that point they'll allow you to run games off of an external HDD, if you've got it.

Also, I heard a bit of an...interesting tip a couple of weeks ago that I can now dreadfully dance around.

that's interesting, what was the tip?