Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

[Devil_Rising]

The Wii U is already confirmed to be significantly more powerful than the PS3. That is enough for me. Even IF the other consoles are "more powerful", which remains to be seen (I'd think Sony especially should have learned their lesson about overpowering and thus overpricing the PS3, costing them a LOT of money with lack of sales for the first couple years). It won't matter much.

The Wii U is coming out first. 3rd parties will be on board, they already are. We've already gotten confirmation of several such games being made for the system, such as Darksiders II, Arkham City, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Assassin's Creed III, Dragon Quest X, Ninja Gaiden 3, etc. I mean what more do you want? Those are specifically the types of games that many on here lamented Wii not getting. I'm sure it'll be getting games like RE6 and such as well. No reason not to, especially with all the RE games they've been putting out on 3DS. Point being, it WILL have good support, because it's got enough power to keep developers happy about multiplatform gaming. PLUS it'll have the coveted Nintendo first party games, and because of it's controller, no doubt third party exclusives as well.

[KingBroly]

For the record, AC3 isn't a hard confirmation right now. But along with Resident Evil 6 and COD:BO2, everyone is thinking it very loudly.

[LegendofZelda1996]

The Wii U is already confirmed to be significantly more powerful than the PS3. That is enough for me. Even IF the other consoles are "more powerful", which remains to be seen (I'd think Sony especially should have learned their lesson about overpowering and thus overpricing the PS3, costing them a LOT of money with lack of sales for the first couple years). It won't matter much.

The Wii U is coming out first. 3rd parties will be on board, they already are. We've already gotten confirmation of several such games being made for the system, such as Darksiders II, Arkham City, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Assassin's Creed III, Dragon Quest X, Ninja Gaiden 3, etc. I mean what more do you want? Those are specifically the types of games that many on here lamented Wii not getting. I'm sure it'll be getting games like RE6 and such as well. No reason not to, especially with all the RE games they've been putting out on 3DS. Point being, it WILL have good support, because it's got enough power to keep developers happy about multiplatform gaming. PLUS it'll have the coveted Nintendo first party games, and because of it's controller, no doubt third party exclusives as well.

But there are many questions about the Wii U unanswered:

- Will the third party developers ditch the Wii U once the so called XBOX 720 or PlayStation 4 is released worldwide?

- Is the current third party library for the Wii U enough to convince both the rest of the third party developers and the core gamers to either develop for the Wii U or buy the Wii U?

[KingBroly]

It really comes down to how big the power gap between the two consoles are. From everything I've been told, the jump from 360/PS3 to 720/PS4 is going to be a half-step instead of a full on jump up in terms of power. This, if true, is good for Wii U because it will mean that they will be able to get games the other 2 consoles have, no problem. If Developers develop on Wii U first (Which is possible because of cheaper start-up costs) it will become the PS2 of next generation, despite having a graphical disadvantage.

It also depends on how many ports, day 1 or otherwise Wii U gets. If they got Skyrim GOTY on Day 1 as everyone else, while still getting ports of Bioshock Infinite, Borderlands 2, Tomb Raider, etc. and we get confirmation it'll get the games for next gen as well, at that point it will already have amassed a somewhat sizable library in comparison to consoles that may or may not run their back catalogs (Given current rumors, it is under speculation that 360/PS3 games may not play well or at all on their next-gen counterparts).

[Devil_Rising]

But there are many questions about the Wii U unanswered:

- Will the third party developers ditch the Wii U once the so called XBOX 720 or PlayStation 4 is released worldwide?

- Is the current third party library for the Wii U enough to convince both the rest of the third party developers and the core gamers to either develop for the Wii U or buy the Wii U?

There are some gamers who, even if the Wii U wound up being THE most power of the next gen consoles, and even if it had THE strongest support and best third party offerings overall, who would STILL not get the system, no matter what, because "It's Nintendo", and they carry this retarded stigma around with them that Nintendo "isn't for core gamers".

Meaning, nothing Nintendo ever does is going to change the minds of those kinds of folks. But I do think Wii U will most likely see the strongest third party support we've seen since the SNES days, if nothing else because of the power of the console and the allegedly improved online infrastructure.

[Serpent_Seed]

I always have 2 home consoles anyways. Nintendo & Sony. I really hope wii U has ana ctivity log like 3Ds but with more things tracked. I really like it.

[Devil_Rising]

I was impressed by how many more features 3DS had. I'll say that. I didn't MISS it per say on Wii or DS, but I would love to see more of this on Wii U.

[luigi_owns]

all the games on PS720 will suck, so it doesnt matter how many games they get. 90% of third party games suck. Nintendo games all day

[KingBroly]

all the games on PS720 will suck, so it doesnt matter how many games they get. 90% of third party games suck. Nintendo games all day

Please don't make stupid posts. Please.

[Serpent_Seed]

I want to see a BlazBlue game on Wii U. Love BlazBlue.

[vinniebrock]

all the games on PS720 will suck, so it doesnt matter how many games they get. 90% of third party games suck. Nintendo games all day

I've died and gone to YouTube.

So, this site seems convinced that it was Epic that made the Japanese Garden demo, though I think it was misinterpreted. Mark Rein posted a few tweets during E3 that make it seem like it was them who made it, but I'm inclined to believe he was referring to Arkham City & Colonial Marines, unless Epic or Nintendo come out and confirm.

Only reason I bring it up is I missed those Tweets before, so now I'm a bit more interested in what Epic and/or Ninty has to show at GDC. Also, this.

[KingBroly]

all the games on PS720 will suck, so it doesnt matter how many games they get. 90% of third party games suck. Nintendo games all day

I've died and gone to YouTube.

So, this site seems convinced that it was Epic that made the Japanese Garden demo, though I think it was misinterpreted. Mark Rein posted a few tweets during E3 that make it seem like it was them who made it, but I'm inclined to believe he was referring to Arkham City & Colonial Marines unless Epic or Nintendo come out and confirm.

Only reason I bring it up is I missed those Tweets before, so now I'm a bit more interested in what Epic and/or Ninty has to show at GDC. Also, this.

I don't think Epic made that demo, but I think it was made using Unreal Engine 3.

[Broken_Cartridge]

I'm totally digging the patent that shows the controller manipulating things in 3D. It makes me want to be able to draw things and layer things based off of where the controller is.

[Serpent_Seed]

I'm still not to clear on that 3D thing. Sounds interesting though.

[motherbra1n]

the thing thats annoying me about the wii u at the moment is that there are a lot more rumours saying that it's around the same as the ps3/360 than rumours saying it's significantly more powerful than the ps3/360 and comparably the next xbox, but at the same time the rumours posted on ign seem to post the most reliable rumours and it seems before e3 last year it was rumoured (from igns sources) to be around the same as the ps3/360 and after the final devkits were sent out igns rumours said that it's comparable to the next xbox.

Damn it if this thing is underpowered it will be (dare I say it) DOOMED.

[KingBroly]

There are apparently two different dev kits out right now. One was a more recent one (from 3-4 weeks ago) while the other is from the beginning of November.

[LegendofZelda1996]

the thing thats annoying me about the wii u at the moment is that there are a lot more rumours saying that it's around the same as the ps3/360 than rumours saying it's significantly more powerful than the ps3/360 and comparably the next xbox, but at the same time the rumours posted on ign seem to post the most reliable rumours and it seems before e3 last year it was rumoured (from igns sources) to be around the same as the ps3/360 and after the final devkits were sent out igns rumours said that it's comparable to the next xbox.

Damn it if this thing is underpowered it will be (dare I say it) DOOMED.

I think those rumours that are from last year, but I could be wrong.

[Jack_Atlas]

the thing thats annoying me about the wii u at the moment is that there are a lot more rumours saying that it's around the same as the ps3/360 than rumours saying it's significantly more powerful than the ps3/360 and comparably the next xbox, but at the same time the rumours posted on ign seem to post the most reliable rumours and it seems before e3 last year it was rumoured (from igns sources) to be around the same as the ps3/360 and after the final devkits were sent out igns rumours said that it's comparable to the next xbox.

Damn it if this thing is underpowered it will be (dare I say it) DOOMED.

The funny thing about rumors is anybody can make them up and the Wii U power rumors aren't that bad when compared to the last few rumors I've heard about the Xbox 720 and from what I've heard it's going to be amazingly powerful,it will have a tablet controller and the last one I heard was Microsoft was going to implement something to make used games not work on the system and all i'm going to say is if Sony or Microsoft implement that kind of feature then the Wii U has nothing to worry about but to be honest the used game rumor sounds like something Microsoft would do and if a rumor comes out that Sony is considering this I'm gonna say it now it would not surprise me

Also,something tells me within a few months of E3 someone's going to say the same thing about Nintendo and the rumors we have now will look tiny when compared to the newer crap

[ddddd]

I think those rumours that are from last year, but I could be wrong.

Not the one I posted a few pages back

Mainly it's the whole "360/PS3 ports will have to be nerfed" thing that stinks. If he had said the system was more or less a repackaged 360, it would be considerably easier to swallow. The fact of the matter is that plenty of devs have stated no concessions will need to be made to port to the Wii U. Arkam claims very matter-of-fact-ly that these statements are lies.

I'm not saying anyone is lying. Maybe their software takes advantage of what the wiiu brings to the table. Our games do not. The only thing that I will say is untrue are the rumors of it being 5x the Xbox 360. It's much closer to 1x if anything. I think a lot of you guys on here oversanalyze things. Just because it isn't as powerful doesn't mean the games look bad... More that they won't look much better than what is currently out on 360/ps3. Ok I'll let you get back to flaming me for being nice and sharing some info.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=9066

There was a separated user there, also verified, that said their studio was quite disappointed with WiiU specs.

[Serpent_Seed]

I have absolutely no worries. But I'm wondering if I should get Wii U on launch day. It's mainly a ride thing but if it's Sunday I could go to church and get a ride afterwards.

[KingBroly]

Again: There's a difference between first-hand information and second-hand information. Also, there are multiple dev kits out there with different specs out there as well.

[ronnande]

I think those rumours that are from last year, but I could be wrong.

Not the one I posted a few pages back

Mainly it's the whole "360/PS3 ports will have to be nerfed" thing that stinks. If he had said the system was more or less a repackaged 360, it would be considerably easier to swallow. The fact of the matter is that plenty of devs have stated no concessions will need to be made to port to the Wii U. Arkam claims very matter-of-fact-ly that these statements are lies.

I'm not saying anyone is lying. Maybe their software takes advantage of what the wiiu brings to the table. Our games do not. The only thing that I will say is untrue are the rumors of it being 5x the Xbox 360. It's much closer to 1x if anything. I think a lot of you guys on here oversanalyze things. Just because it isn't as powerful doesn't mean the games look bad... More that they won't look much better than what is currently out on 360/ps3. Ok I'll let you get back to flaming me for being nice and sharing some info.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=9066

There was a separated user there, also verified, that said their studio was quite disappointed with WiiU specs.

That guy in that post is not a developer or anything like that, just a troll, believe me i know that.

All things that have leaked about the wiiu specs makes it quite easy to deduct its performance now.
Around 3-5x the x360 (simplified way to compare power i know). A significant step up, but not mindblowingly so.
It will support shader model 4.1 and has a tesselation unit (not a good one tho, but its there). So feature wise its quite a bit better than x360. Sold at a reasonable price I think this is good specs.

[ddddd]

He is not a troll, the mods there verified him as a developer, otherwise they would have banned him, he is just not working with the hardware. But his team may have one of the old kits that were just enough for hd games.

[KingBroly]

He is not a troll, the mods there verified him as a developer, otherwise they would have banned him, he is just not working with the hardware. But his team may have one of the old kits that were just enough for hd games.

Actually, no. He works for a Developer, but is in fact NOT a developer (and has said as much). This was verified by a Moderator at NeoGaf. Please keep your facts straight.

[ddddd]

The point is that the guy has/had access to real verified info and his claims were accepted as realistic since the numbers were similar as what has been said for awhile. So he is not a troll. Plus the new rumor kind off falls in line with his claims.

If anyone knows the true current specs from a more reliable source Im all ears since I would like to ease my fears.