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Postby Darth Vader » 25 Feb 2012 21:27

Whoa. Pokemon news that's actually big. Shocking.

Why isn't this on 3DS, you ask?

Gamefreak eats, lives, and sleeps on its laurels, that's why (to be fair it's a much smarter business decision, though Nintendo certainly could turn out a 3DS-selling Pokemon game... if it weren't for the fact I just stated)

Not expecting much

Please surprise me Gamefreak, I've been buying your games for years but I'd really like to be genuinely excited for another one of your games again. A better looking game engine or battle engine would be a nice start, since it's a sequel I don't expect too many gameplay changes but that's cool.

All I know is that if the next Pokemon game, like the inevitable RSE remake, is on the DS rather than the 3DS, then I'm completely done with Pokemon

Also, I hate that legendary on the movie poster. It's like they combined all the cuteness of Mew with all the crappy fan design of some 15 year old's Deviantart account
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Postby Mirr0rR3flection » 25 Feb 2012 21:37

This sounds great and all but why the DS? :( I don't want to go back and play DS games, I want to play new games on newer hardware.

(I want no one telling me you can play it on the 3DS thanks to its backwards compatibility or I'll go psyhcopath on you 8| :evil: . . .mark my words. . .I'm not in a happy mood. . .)
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Postby flameking1087 » 25 Feb 2012 21:39

@uWaAvenger

we are asking because the 3DS has been out for a year, and by the time this comes out here (if it even does) it will be even older. white looks HORRIBLE on 3DS. i mean, fuzzy AND pixle-ated?!?!? come on...

we are sad that we are going to have to wait YEARS for a true Pokemon game on 3DS.




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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby cakeandpiemofo » 25 Feb 2012 21:42

The more I think about direct sequels the better I feel about it. Maybe Gamefreak will put in a feature that lets you transfer over your current B/W team, or you play as N.

Possibilities seem amazing.

Shame about it about being on DS but ah well.
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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby Radiant » 25 Feb 2012 21:42

So are they REALLY sequels?

Can we expect them to be like G/S/C were to R/B/Y, or are they just going to be Grey version 1 and Grey version 2? I'm really hoping they're real sequels. That would make this really exciting, but if they're just a third version split in two, then it will be really uncool.
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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 25 Feb 2012 21:47

I have a feeling that this is going to be more like a 3rd version but with 2 versions of that instead of just one.... Also, I am displeased that it's not on 3DS because of internet problems I have. My internet security is WPA, and DS games don't support WPA. Every time I switch it to WEP I have experience problems with my internet. I'm not looking forward to still having to find weird ways around this...I was hoping the 3rd (in this case 3rd and 4th) iterations would solve that by having it on the 3DS, but we'll see. Very smart move for Game Freak (assuming it gets the same momentum as the first 2)
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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby pokemaster515 » 25 Feb 2012 21:48

The only reason I would have wanted this on 3DS is because the DS online is awful and I've never been able to play any online games on it with people I actually know. I skipped Black and White anyways because the pokemon designs looked so uninspired and trashy, I doubt I'll get this either.

Looks like Broken Cartridge got to my internet concerns a tad faster than I did.
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Postby Darth Vader » 25 Feb 2012 21:57

Apparently the games aren't "Pokemon Black 2 and Pokemon White 2"...

they're "Pokemon Black Version 2 and Pokemon White Version 2"

god damn it, now I'm confused. Version 2 of B/W, ala Platinum except two of them? Or a sequel to B/W with 'Version' as part of the name (as if the originals were referred to as Black Version and White Version)?

The latter is far more likely but I just wanna be sure
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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby mock turtle » 25 Feb 2012 21:59

pokemaster515 wrote:I skipped Black and White anyways because the pokemon designs looked so uninspired and trashy, I doubt I'll get this either.


And yet your icon is Zekrom. The irony and hypocrisy is delicious.
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Postby 8bit101 » 25 Feb 2012 22:00

DS? LOOOOOL. Nice didn't expect that.
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Postby Mirr0rR3flection » 25 Feb 2012 22:01

mock turtle wrote:
pokemaster515 wrote:I skipped Black and White anyways because the pokemon designs looked so uninspired and trashy, I doubt I'll get this either.


And yet your icon is Zekrom. The irony and hypocrisy is delicious.

LOL :lol: reading this^^^ made me feel a bit better about all this. XD
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Postby Tackman » 25 Feb 2012 22:01

I thought they wouldn't announce the next main game so soon because announcing an updated version of the existing two games would hinder their sales. But announcing a sequel would actually BOOST the sales of B/W!

Darth Vader wrote:Apparently the games aren't "Pokemon Black 2 and Pokemon White 2"...

they're "Pokemon Black Version 2 and Pokemon White Version 2"

Yeeeeaaaaahhhh...
Source?
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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 25 Feb 2012 22:08

Tackman wrote:Yeeeeaaaaahhhh...
Source?

He's referring to what the English website calls them. http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video ... version-2/
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Postby Tackman » 25 Feb 2012 22:12

@Broken_Cartridge
Yeah, you are right, but I believe it is like "Pokémon Black Version - 2" rather than "Pokémon Black - Version 2" After all, the games were called Pokémon Black Version and Pokémon White Version in English.
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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby Darth Vader » 25 Feb 2012 22:13

Tackman wrote:@Broken_Cartridge
Yeah, you are right, but I believe it is like "Pokémon Black Version - 2" rather than "Pokémon Black - Version 2" After all, the games were called Pokémon Black Version and Pokémon White Version in English.

yeah, that's what I'm thinking too
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Postby mock turtle » 25 Feb 2012 22:16

Ah, English; such a lovely, confusing, broken language.
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Postby geozeldadude » 25 Feb 2012 22:19

a direct sequel would be pretty novel, but it's bizarre that they'd be releasing it for DS only. maybe they want to reuse the engine so that they can focus on an entirely new game for 3DS.
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Postby pokemaster515 » 25 Feb 2012 22:23

@mock turtle I actually like the 2 main legendary pokemon but I'm talking about the rest. One pokemon was literally a bag of trash. I don't dislike pokemon but I don't think having one new pokemon that I like/want is enough to get a new game.
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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 25 Feb 2012 22:28

Darth Vader wrote:
Tackman wrote:@Broken_Cartridge
Yeah, you are right, but I believe it is like "Pokémon Black Version - 2" rather than "Pokémon Black - Version 2" After all, the games were called Pokémon Black Version and Pokémon White Version in English.

yeah, that's what I'm thinking too

Probably what they are referring to, but I wouldn't be surprised if they felt like they were Version 2s

geozeldadude wrote:a direct sequel would be pretty novel, but it's bizarre that they'd be releasing it for DS only. maybe they want to reuse the engine so that they can focus on an entirely new game for 3DS.

See the beauty of releasing it on the DS is that 3DS users can also play it on the 3DS in 2D. So it's not only releasing on the DS, on the contrary, it is releasing in a format that can work on both. But I have stated what my problems with that are in a previous post.

Anyways, I've seen a couple posts that have said something along the lines of "DS only?" and that's why I brought attention to it. Sure there is no 3DS version, but having a DS version allows for both systems to play it, thus they are able to target people who haven't gotten a 3DS yet and people who have moved on from the DS and gotten a 3DS.
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Postby Darth Vader » 25 Feb 2012 22:31

You know what would be a real shocker?

If this game returned to previous region(s) and served as a sequel and a remake of sorts at the same time

Hmm... what region WILL this game take place in? I can't see them re-using Unova, unless it's a different area on the same continent
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Postby Since1776 » 25 Feb 2012 22:34

If these games are a sequel to B/W and not a rehash (perhaps even part of a trilogy as an earlier poster mentioned?!) then this is fantastic news.

More so because if this IS truly a sequel, then that means now and in the future there may be more time between generations. I know some will consider this a bad thing, but with 600+ Pokemon and new generations every 4ish (?) years, eventually there was going to be a point where it just became too much.

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If this is indeed true, and the in game story is a duology or trilogy, and that trend continues in future generations, the amount of Pokemon will grow to insane proportions as a slower rate, AND the excitement for new generations will be even greater as their frequency will decrease while still allowing 'main' games to be released at a regular rate.

Also allows for more new ideas and the possibility of 'catching them all' within one generation. One thing I loved about B/W was that pre-Elite 4 the only Pokemon were new Pokemon. However for B/W 2 and 3 (?) other Pokemon can be made accessible earlier and areas from previous games can even be made available, hopefully even tying into the storyline. A story that involved past legendary Pokemon being tied to the storyline of the new games would not only be compelling, but would be great for nostalgia as well, especially with the ability to travel to past locations. (The possibilities for a good story spanning three releases is virtually endless, come to think of it. Thinking on the fly, one important implementation I think would be an easy way to transfer all Pokemon from version 1 to 2 and then 3.)

Of course the opposite argument could be made as well, that the constant flow of new pokemon keeps the series as popular as it is.
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Postby Hawk » 25 Feb 2012 22:35

Wow.

I'll admit, I like this better than "Gray". Gray would have been the same game I just played, plus a little more. Sounds like I'll at least get a new story with this one.

Still, would have preferred a sixth generation game on the 3DS. Oh well. I'll watch this and see if I want to devote any more time and money to Pokemon.

And Vader's right, this is Gamefreak not being as ambitious as they could be. Hopefully it's still good.
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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby Caelum » 25 Feb 2012 22:38

Yeah, my friend and I have a crazy theory about these games if they end up being direct sequels of Black and White. We think that the reason Zekrom has a presence in Black 2 instead of White 2 (and the same with Reshiram) is because you'll either play as N (who obtained that dragon in the first version) or as a new character that eventually associates with N. This could even mean a new region (since N flew to a "distant land" at the end of B/W). At any rate, without major changes to Unova, it's hard to see how this wouldn't just be a retread. And I seriously doubt you'll be playing as the protagonists from Black and White. That'd cause some serious oddities from a story perspective.
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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby NormalGamer » 25 Feb 2012 22:43

Broken_Cartridge wrote:See the beauty of releasing it on the DS is that 3DS users can also play it on the 3DS in 2D. So it's not only releasing on the DS, on the contrary, it is releasing in a format that can work on both.


Yeah, pretty much like the DS coexisting with 3DS; Extending the life of the DS while supporting the 3DS at the same time.

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Re: Pokemon news revealed - Pokemon Black/White 2 heading to

Postby Elfteiroh » 25 Feb 2012 22:47

This is weird. I can't wait to get more information...
But I wonder... DS... Will I be able to play a DS game now that I've been spoiled by my 3DS? :/
I mean, I haven't even touched the first games (B/W) since I got my 3DS... :/
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