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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 12 Mar 2012 20:39

Hey Mark Rein, what do you have to say?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012- ... nt-do-well?

Epic VP Mark Rein will be shocked if the Wii U isn't a hit for Nintendo when it launches later this year.

Sepaking to Eurogamer at GDC in San Francisco last week, Rein argued that parents are ready to upgrade their kid's Wii to Nintendo's new system.

"I like the Wii U. I think E3 will be a big eye-opener for people," he predicted.

"I played Batman: Arkham City on the Wii U and they are doing some really cool stuff with the controller.

"Do you remember the Zelda demo they had on it? Would you not buy a Wii U just to play that? Of course you would. That's what Nintendo is all about. Their hardware is the software delivery service for their great content. That Zelda demo was gorgeous and we can do even more than that with Unreal Engine 3. I think it will do great."

Rein added that Nintendo's brand recognition and beloved IP should see it fly off shelves, though he suggested that it might have been quicker off the mark with getting the machine to stores.

"It's a great brand that a lot of parents really trust and they're probably ready to buy their kids an HD Wii that does that much more than just being an HD Wii.

"I'd love it if they'd done it last year, but I'm excited for them to do it this year. I'd be shocked if it doesn't do well.

"Did you play that Battle Mii game? Two players would play with a Wii Remote and Nunchuk and one would play with the Wii U controller?

"I would buy a Wii U to play that game in a heartbeat. And I hope people make those kind of games with our technology. I think we've yet to really see what the Wii U can do and I think at E3 this year they're going to shock us."

Earlier this year Nintendo president Satoru Iwata suggested that, more than ever, the company will be looking to partner with third parties when developing high-spec core games that fall outside of its traditional comfort zone.

Might Epic step up to the plate with a new IP for the system, a la Gears of War on the Xbox 360?

"If I had 10 development teams I'd make a game for every single platform and make that the special game for that platform," replied Rein.

"If you're the special game on that platform you do really, really well. Gears was one of the special ones on Xbox 360. Infinity Blade is a special game on the iPhone and iPad. Shadow Complex was a special game on Xbox Live Arcade.

"But we don't have 10 development teams so it's just a matter of picking and choosing what we do and doing the best thing we can for the idea that we have."

Epic currently has two titles in development: Infinity Blade: Dungeons for iOS and Fortnite for as-yet unconfirmed platforms.


Keep in mind: He said that UE4 was still under embargo last week for some bloody reason.

EDIT:
I've done this a couple of times in reality, but I could never present it in the format I wanted to before. So without further ado, I present a link to my IP breakdown chart for (most) Nintendo franchises. It basically goes over when the last game in each series was released as well as presenting an argument on what their chances for Wii U's launch are. I even break it down by spin-offs!

http://kingbrolyblog.blogspot.com/2012/ ... tendo.html

Basically...
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on time alone, the likely candidates are F-Zero, Wario, Pikmin, Donkey Kong and Metroid, in addition to Wii U ____, which will most likely be a pack-in.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby J0RdAnN » 13 Mar 2012 09:02

KingBroly I read your list and you have one error The Legend of Zelda Series has 3 Spin offs Link's Crossbow Training and the 2 Tingle Games. Unless you count the Tingle games as a new franchise entirely, that takes place in the same world as The Legend of Zelda (Sort of like Final Fight and Street Fighter)
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 13 Mar 2012 09:21

I think the Tingle games are like Wario and Yoshi to Mario, basically. Wario and Yoshi started off as Mario games (Land 3 and World 2 respectively) but eventually became their own things. While in the Mario-verse, they're separate. There's also only been 2 Tingle games, only 1 of which made it to Europe.

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- Rhythm Heaven
- Punch-Out
- Brain Games
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby J0RdAnN » 13 Mar 2012 16:32

And Dr.Mario and Picross otherwise I think thats it... Game and Watch is a dead series so....yeah that covers it.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 13 Mar 2012 19:22

Picross is a Franchise? Really?

Also, I didn't really consider Dr. Mario. It would be a Downloadable Title if it came out at launch, though.


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GTA V to get polish and wait for Wii U's install base to be bigger, according to an analyst group.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby ddddd » 15 Mar 2012 18:09

^^ An analyst I hope is correct ^_^

Also, it seems that Nintendo will have E3 all for themselves, since not even Microsoft will unveil its new console.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 15 Mar 2012 18:13

Don't believe anything Microsoft or Sony says about them not announcing a new console. They just don't want sales to dip.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby motherbra1n » 15 Mar 2012 19:38

Im 99% sure that nintendo were denying that they were making a console this time last year, only at around april did they finally put out an official statement, or it might have been may, but there were constantly saying through out the year "no new console anytime soon"
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby ddddd » 15 Mar 2012 21:51

By this time before E3 2011, I cant remember nintendo denying the wiiu at E3, because I think they did not even talk about it, I cant remember (and I searched some) any kind of denial concerning the new console at all. All I remember is reggie's "until wii gets 45m no next gen talk", but that was nov 2010 and doesnt say much.
I think they never denied or confirmed anything until Iwata had to reveal it.

And Im closer to believe they will show its new console this year, but by this time shouldnt there be something? Will M$ have to tell investors about their new console as well?

Regardless, WiiU will probably have a year of head start, it depends on the competition if they will let it have it all or reveal their own consoles.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 15 Mar 2012 21:57

I believe they announced it in early April.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 15 Mar 2012 21:59

motherbra1n wrote:Im 99% sure that nintendo were denying that they were making a console this time last year, only at around april did they finally put out an official statement, or it might have been may, but there were constantly saying through out the year "no new console anytime soon"

If I remember correctly around holidays 2010 Reggie made a statement about them not talking about the next console until the wii sold 4 million (I could have this number wrong) more units in the US. I don't remember them denying the existence of a successor.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 15 Mar 2012 22:04

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motherbra1n wrote:Im 99% sure that nintendo were denying that they were making a console this time last year, only at around april did they finally put out an official statement, or it might have been may, but there were constantly saying through out the year "no new console anytime soon"

If I remember correctly around holidays 2010 Reggie made a statement about them not talking about the next console until the wii sold 4 million (I could have this number wrong) more units in the US. I don't remember them denying the existence of a successor.


No, he literally said 'not until 45 million.'

I'm still interested to see what Nintendo puts out for it this fall. I heard a while ago that Pikmin 3 wasn't the only game that got pushed from Wii to Wii U.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 16 Mar 2012 01:41

Ah, I completely forgot about Iwata's statement, and yeah now I remember why what Reggie said made me frustrated.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby J0RdAnN » 16 Mar 2012 12:29

well picross doesn't have to count, as its basically Handheld only. but the WiiU is perfect for a :angel: Layton HD :angel:
also anyone find it weird how all of Capcom fighters are skipping the 3DS?
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby LegendofZelda1996 » 17 Mar 2012 19:57

NeoGAF wrote:If both wsippel and IdeaMan's info is true, the final GPU may be heavily modified from the listed specs of a 5550/5570.


Did Nintendo decide to not use a modified Radeon HD 4870, but instead use either a modified Radeon HD 5550 or a modified Radeon HD 5570 as the GPU for the Wii U? Is it good news? Is it bad news? Or it is both?

According to what I read so far, it is both good news and bad news. The good news is that the Wii U can support DirectX 11 (or Direct3D 11) and OpenGL 4.1 without any problems. The bad news is that the Radeon HD 5550 or the Radeon HD 5570 has less raw processing power than the Radeon HD 4870.

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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby ddddd » 18 Mar 2012 15:07

Double posting for the upcoming rumor news ^_^

www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=361 ... count=4991

At the moment, multiplats with heavy use of the subscreen look like 360 games with more effects, true 720p and constant framerate.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 18 Mar 2012 23:44

I think the thing about Wii U isn't really what games now will do on Wii U/PS3/360, but what Wii U/PS4/720 games will do. As someone mentioned on NeoGaf, the revealing of the Tablet controller might've been a 'hey, follow us' nod to Sony/Microsoft. I don't know if Microsoft will bite, but considering Sony is chock full of their own, creative and unique ideas...they absolutely will copy it. I think Microsoft will keep with Kinect, but make it come with every box.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby ddddd » 20 Mar 2012 15:15

The NDAs that keep third parties shut apparently will be lifted monday 26 next week

http://www.gameblog.fr/forum/topic/9901 ... try1979609

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bon apparament certains NDA se termine a partir du 26 mars pour certains titre tiers.

Sinon j'ai osé donner la liste a mon insider, qui m'a semblé sourire de façon amusé

"Hum c'est une liste fort interressante, mais de toute facon les jeux du shop online wiiU ont en NDA très fort, donc que ca vous arrive en rumeur a bonne chance d'être des fake"

"Cependant certains jeux annoncé ici pourrait parfaitement exister"

Puis la question sur les multiples mmo/ jeux pc

"Avec la mablette et le online flexible c'est largement possible, après je peut pas en dire plus"

j'ai démandé si la memoire interne serai un soucis

"Celle de base est suffisante après pour le gros consommateur faudra passer par la case disque dur externe mais bon c'est déja un peu le cas dans le modèles les moins bien loti de xbox 360 je peut pas donner le chiffre désolé"

J'ai demandé si par exemple il aurait des jeux de gestion du genre anno, roller coster ou "theme"

"Bah roller coaster a un opus 3ds de prévu il me semble, la wiiU est capable d'en proposer un, mais après je sait pas, c'est une bonne idée, je vais en parler"

Puis après j'ai parlé des str "certains sont bien arrivé sur 360 alors sur wiiU console mieux adapté, c'est largement posible"


Patial neogaf summary:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=6323

So, it comes from the Gameblog forum where I used to post. Nothing big or really new but it could be interesting : according to a user source it seems some NDA for third party will end next monday (03/26). If it's true we can expect some announcements... The source also confirmed there is some storage capacity with the Wii U, enough to begin with the Eshop even if for bigger users an external storage solution will be needed, "like for the Xbox".


There is also a comment about the hard-to-believe e-shop list, but Im not sure if I can trust google translate.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 21 Mar 2012 23:52

If I were the people at NeoGaf right now I wouldn't count out Metroid for Wii U so easily. We'll have one way before a new Zelda game comes out.

And Retro's thing apparently isn't coming out this year.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 22 Mar 2012 08:59

KingBroly wrote:If I were the people at NeoGaf right now I wouldn't count out Metroid for Wii U so easily. We'll have one way before a new Zelda game comes out.

And Retro's thing apparently isn't coming out this year.

Have you heard what Retro could be working on? I know it's all rumor and speculation right now, but it would be pretty neat knowing what a possibility could be.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 22 Mar 2012 22:02

I have complete confidence in what I've been told is true. It's not coming out this year.

I also believe what I know what's going on with a certain IP that a lot of people give me a ton of crap about.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby Jack_Atlas » 22 Mar 2012 22:55

I'm not gonna lie but after the big world of warcraft rumor I pretty much got lost with every single rumor


KingBroly wrote:I have complete confidence in what I've been told is true. It's not coming out this year.

I also believe what I know what's going on with a certain IP that a lot of people give me a ton of crap about.


Which IP is that because knowing you it's Metroid, which I will agree needs a new game with a newly designed Samus I am kinda getting bored of the zero suit. Hell we need a good F-Zero game that's not so mind bogglingly hard and a Star fox game that has new ideas that make the game worth $60 dollars.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby KingBroly » 22 Mar 2012 23:40

I'm sorry that you've completely missed my point.
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Re: Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

Postby Jack_Atlas » 23 Mar 2012 01:30

KingBroly wrote:I'm sorry that you've completely missed my point.


Your point was what exactly?

Seeing as a discussion can switch on a dime in a matter of days and the NeoGaf forums grow pretty fast. Now I understand that you trust what i'm gonna say is an unknown source but just dropping a vague hint of "it's not coming out this year" when the term "it's" is used in this sentence it is obviously referring to the product,but because I don't know your unknown source, I don't know what they've told you, how many people they've told and so on and so on.That's how rumors end up starting,these guys could have told you one game and told two other people a completely different title.


Also if people are giving you a ton of crap about a certain IP,it depends on what was said in the info and the IP, you may have also been on a website that sucks for talking with people, but seeing as your mentioning it in the Wii U thread it sounds like pretty big news that I believe nobody on here would give you crap over.

Before I wrap this up if your source is a major developer, just say their tied up in NDAs.
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