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Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby KingBroly » 17 Mar 2012 03:07

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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby gtt » 17 Mar 2012 03:29

it is close, but not quite.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby TheLastBlade » 17 Mar 2012 03:29

Makes Other M look even more crap.

... Which is worth less than one would think.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby Jack_Atlas » 17 Mar 2012 05:25

Perfect? I wouldn't say that because I have the view point that every game is not perfect and if I did my entire comment would consist of me bashing super metroid because it doesn't stack up to Zelda ocarina of time-[when reading this paragraph read it carefully please because I know some people have a tendency to skip over words and will read my paragraph as me hating on metroid,which is the opposite in reality.]

I'm generally in the group of people maybe a minority? But I feel that Super Metroid falls in line with being treated like Ocarina of time 3D and Star Fox 64 3D and upgrading the graphics and leaving everything that made the game a classic untouched.I would even go as far to say instead of using the tired and true zero suit everyone expects now in a Metroid game be retired for this one remake and the developers use the black bikini that was in the original.

I'm also going to point out that to some it would seem like a better idea to make a 3D classics version,but I don't actually see the added value to buy a ROM with 3D effects added to it.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby ddddd » 17 Mar 2012 06:35

Not quite, but I do think it has the best backtracking and item hunt progression in the entire series, as well as having paved the road for every metroid game released afterwards.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 17 Mar 2012 08:35

Perfect? No, but it's pretty awesome.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby MasterofMonster » 17 Mar 2012 11:09

It's the best game i've ever played.

So, No, i don't think so. I doubt anything of anything can be Perfect~ ^^

Except for Zoidberg~<3
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby bellboy » 17 Mar 2012 11:31

Very good but not perfect. If it were perfect I would want to play it every day.
And also because of it we got Other M. So there's a big old conundrum for you. Do I love Super Metroid MORE than I hate Other M...
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby KingBroly » 17 Mar 2012 12:56

bellboy wrote:Very good but not perfect. If it were perfect I would want to play it every day.
And also because of it we got Other M. So there's a big old conundrum for you. Do I love Super Metroid MORE than I hate Other M...


Stay positive...for goodness sake.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby TheLastBlade » 17 Mar 2012 13:04

KingBroly wrote:
bellboy wrote:Very good but not perfect. If it were perfect I would want to play it every day.
And also because of it we got Other M. So there's a big old conundrum for you. Do I love Super Metroid MORE than I hate Other M...


Stay positive...for goodness sake.


If it was perfect, then it would lose major points for having lead to the creation of other m. LLLLLoOOOOOOLLLL.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby KingBroly » 17 Mar 2012 13:54

No, Fusion led to the creation of Other M.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby TheLastBlade » 17 Mar 2012 14:19

Which was based on previous iterations of metroid including super metroid.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby WesFX » 17 Mar 2012 15:01

Not in this person's opinion.
Future titles improved upon the controls, for one, so how can you call it perfect?
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby MAGNUS-8M » 17 Mar 2012 20:06

It's "unfortunately" still my favorite Metroid game.... unfortunate because I WANT games to get better over time, just like how I keep hoping the next Sonic game will be as good as Sonic 3 & Knuckles(but they never *quite* get there). It doesn't help that both GBA games HAD to be watered down because of lack of buttons, that DS never had a proper Metroid game to follow the actual-Metroid-gameplay that I wanted, and the other one also tried to 'improve' things by taking out the single-map/backtracking that I LIKE about Metroid games(even if the casual 'give me everything' CoD gaming crowd hates backtracking in Metroid, I just really like the idea of remembering past areas you couldn't access, and realizing on your own that now the new power you just got could possibly help you get there). Apart from those games, not including the 3D versions, side games, and the first two games, yeah, it's still the best out of them I'd say. If anything, wall-jumping is a little bit easier to pull off in the GBA versions, but I've gotten pretty good at doing it in Super Metroid anyway, so it's not as much of a factor.... and I *HATE* the hand-holding and forced-pathways that both GBA games forced onto you, especially when they did that to Metroid Zero Mission because of how open-world-ish the first game was.

Even with those things aside, I do think it's as close to perfect as any imperfect game could get. And honestly, since "it's not possible for any game to be perfect" and it would be redundant to label EVERY good game as 'close but not perfect'(unless you're 8.0 Game Trailers), the scale might as well be proportioned back out to 'perfect' anyway. At the very least, it's a top tier game that other devs of similar games should aspire to in terms of quality, and that's saying enough right there.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby motherbra1n » 17 Mar 2012 22:07

It's as close to perfect as any side scroller has gotten.

metroid fusion is vastly inferior to other m. Other M actually felt different, rather than being a poor mans version of super metroid.

To all the haters: did you really give metroid other m a try or did you just give up after half an hour of playing it because you thought the whole game would be about samus's past?
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby TheLastBlade » 17 Mar 2012 22:20

motherbra1n wrote:It's as close to perfect as any side scroller has gotten.

metroid fusion is vastly inferior to other m. Other M actually felt different, rather than being a poor mans version of super metroid.

To all the haters: did you really give metroid other m a try or did you just give up after half an hour of playing it because you thought the whole game would be about samus's past?


I dunno... Maybe it had to do with bad story, with bad lines, forgettable characters, no reason to go back to it, and contradicting itself without hiding it. It's gameplay is only decent because it had less than interesting level design and has a BAD control set up... Seriously? How is not playing with the joystick a bad thing and just playing it NES style a-ok?
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby motherbra1n » 17 Mar 2012 22:54

TheLastBlade wrote:
motherbra1n wrote:It's as close to perfect as any side scroller has gotten.

metroid fusion is vastly inferior to other m. Other M actually felt different, rather than being a poor mans version of super metroid.

To all the haters: did you really give metroid other m a try or did you just give up after half an hour of playing it because you thought the whole game would be about samus's past?


I dunno... Maybe it had to do with bad story, with bad lines, forgettable characters, no reason to go back to it, and contradicting itself without hiding it. It's gameplay is only decent because it had less than interesting level design and has a BAD control set up... Seriously? How is not playing with the joystick a bad thing and just playing it NES style a-ok?


the game was designed in such a way that made using the d-pad the best way to play it. And whilst were on the topic of controlling a character in a 3D environment, I don't see anyone complaining about keyboard controls for any game. Yes I know there's an option to use a gamepad but doesn't everyone always go on about how keyboard controls are superior in every way?

No reason to go back to it? What do reasons do you look for in a game to go back to?

The story could have been told better yes, but I still think it's good and think people should at least give it a chance rather than forming an opinion of the game from just a few clips and reviews. I don't think there was anything seriously wrong with the main story (nothing to do with samus's past)

"contradicting itself without hiding it" no idea what you're talking about here

As for the characters, that's down to personal taste I guess, personally I found MB to be the most interesting antagonist in any metroid game and I liked Anthony Higgs, Adam was quite badly done I'll admit that.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby TheLastBlade » 17 Mar 2012 23:15

Well when I played the thing, it felt like it needed analog control (admittedly though, I have no idea if that will change FPS mode much). Plus, it would easily give the game more options to do stuff than the limited buttons you get.

Well if you think that I'm hating the story because it had nothing to do with Samus' past, go hit yourself. It tries to be cool and dramatic so much it's stupid. Example: One cutscene involved Adam giving orders to investigate stuff and we get this weird briefing thing in which it details useless junk no one cares about since all the characters are told badly and are gonna DIE anyways. Another example is.... Every scene in which Samus talks in every useless detail. From piercing her sensitive heart with the word outsider to comparing herself to a flesh eating furry.

It contradicts itself by one thing alone... Samus being traumatized. Now the human mind is complex, but every time I ask this question they go "GO READ THE MANGAS!!!" .... Well, I read every single page and chapter and went through many games and came up with the thesis that compared to these, Samus already got over it and went though worse situations. How does a character who is forced to watch this die and get over it later break down over small things like Ridley even though she fought him over a BILLION times (and that's not counting the Prime series).

Well then if it's in personal taste, then I state it in facts: HOW IN THE WORLD IS MB MOTHER BRAIN A GOOD IDEA? And that's just one character. Seriously, only three stand out in the Protagonist section that is Samus, Adam, and Anthony and yet no one cares about the rest and STILL calls it good and inspiring.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby cortjezter » 17 Mar 2012 23:54

cough cough... double posting (ABABAB) and off-topic discussion is subject to removal. just saying.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby Star Luigi » 18 Mar 2012 00:17

Perfect? I don't know if that's possible, but I won't say whether or not gaming perfection is possible simply to remain open-minded. Anyway, I don't think it's perfect, but I do find it to be quite outstanding. The atmosphere it exudes is just excellent and the soundtrack plays to that in a way few games have done and done well. The gameplay and exploration was fun for me, but you may get annoyed if you don't like open endedness and don't get the map download of the area. It's my favorite SNES game, along with ALttP, Mega Man X, SMW and Chrono Trigger. :D

I don't want to get into too much off topic discussion, but come on. Other M had a number of problems, blatant ones at that.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby Jack_Atlas » 18 Mar 2012 01:49

Now here's where I have problems with fans.This is supposed to be a topic about Super Metroid but after Other M everyone can't help to take pot shots at that one game.First off the story was not that bad it could have been way worse and if two British guys on the internet that I know who believe that their god awful fan fiction should have been incorporated into the actual story had their way it seriously would have been.Because honestly we knew from the beginning that this game took place before fusion and Adam was dead and had to die or we would have major plotholes, but these dumb asses thought that Adam's death scene was too cheesy or did not make sense,so the best idea this guys could come up with is have Adam detach sector zero and have Samus get in her ship and save him and all the other stuff actually happening didn't matter.

Oh, and I'll never forget the compliant of Samus not killing the baby metroid how that opened up thousands of plotholes in Metroid 2 and Super Metroid because she clearly went against orders.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby Hamr » 18 Mar 2012 08:28

'Perfect' is a strong word.

-Like most SNES games, the framerate dies in the butt at various points, sometimes even in rooms where there is no discernible reason.
-Outside of SB/minimum percent/speed runs, the game falls on the easy side.
-The controls are a bit dated.
-The last fight will forever be marred by that whole 'Why am I still alive...The baby!!" thing. Also, Zehbez. :x
-Uhhh... I guess the Gravity Suit is ugly.

Still, one of the three Nintendo games that fights for possession of my soul, and easily one of the best things the industry has ever produced.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby chris_the_wing » 18 Mar 2012 13:28

That's kind of a silly questing, "Is Super Metroid Perfect?". To some people Other M is perfect, to them. To some people Glee is a "perfect" TV show, to me it's rubbish. It's subjective, but I'm not saying Other M is rubbish. Other M is what it is, a pretty good Brawler/Interactive movie with some upgrade and exploration elements.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby StarStabbedMoon » 18 Mar 2012 16:01

Yes, yes it is.

And I'd like to think that, if I had enough time for it, I would play Super Metroid every day.
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Re: Is Super Metroid Perfect?

Postby Mirr0rR3flection » 20 May 2012 12:37

Is it perfect? No since theres always room for improvement.

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