Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

[LegendofZelda1996]

This may be news regarding the Wii U.

IBM is hosting the IBM Investor webcast at April 17, 2012 at 4:30PM (E.S.T.) and there might be an investor or an analyst who will ask questions about the Wii U.

This is where the official IBM Investor webcast website is: http://www.ibm.com/investor/1q12/index.phtml

And I think anyone can participate in the IBM's Annual Meeting for the stockholders on April 24, 2012, by asking a question (the question can be about what microprocessors is in the Wii U) here: http://www.ibm.com/investor/services/question-form.wss

More information about all of this is in here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=2878

[Mirr0rR3flection]

Why not send this news to @RMC?

tips@gonintendo.com

[LegendofZelda1996]

Here are some rumors regarding the CPU of the Wii U coming from IdeaMan in NeoGAF.

- The instructions set of the CPU (their "routine") is definitively even more advanced and targeted for gaming that the VMX128 included in the Xbox360 Xenon.
- Expect a noticeable lowering of the caches latency (fewer cycles), i assume L1 & L2.

If the rumors are true, the CPU of the Wii U is more modern, efficient, and powerful than the CPU of the XBOX 360.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=3192

[ddddd]

Its really nothing impressive, nor its something that no-one would have thought (seriously, the 360 is OLD, 6 years later and nintendo wouldnt deliver a cpu that isnt at least barely superior?). Sometimes I have doubts about that user, but is the only "source" there who doesn't seem disappointed by the numbers of the wiiu, so at least I hope he is legit but the system ends up a lot better than what he says.

[KingBroly]

I think it's because he understands specs more than most. It also doesn't sound like a Wii situation where it's like 'may or may not be more powerful than Xbox 1.'

[LegendofZelda1996]

It also doesn't sound like a Wii situation where it's like 'may or may not be more powerful than Xbox 1.'

Basically, it sounds like the power gap between the Wii U & the PlayStation 4/XBOX 720 will be as big as the power gap between the PlayStation 2 & the XBOX/Nintendo GameCube, right, KingBroly? Or no?

Edit: There are a lot of rumors and speculations about the CPU & the GPU on the Wii U here: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.ph ... 01&page=38
And here: http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.ph ... 01&page=39

[KingBroly]

I don't know how big the power gap is going to be considering it sounds like Microsoft is going off the deep end again, most likely in an effort to get Sony out of the market. But doing so would be dangerous for most third parties who couldn't afford to make games at that cost.

I have heard that Nintendo is creating a new internal development studio though. I imagine it'd be for a main franchise they have.

[gtt]

I don't know how big the power gap is going to be considering it sounds like Microsoft is going off the deep end again, most likely in an effort to get Sony out of the market. But doing so would be dangerous for most third parties who couldn't afford to make games at that cost.

I have heard that Nintendo is creating a new internal development studio though. I imagine it'd be for a main franchise they have.

Sony isn't going anywhere. the PS division is one of their best preforming divisions. If anything their recent restructuring will eventually end up with them doubling down on the playstation brand and products.

[KingBroly]

Can you see Sony making money on a $500-$600 at launch console? I sure can't. Especially not by cutting out backwards compatibility and probably making PSN a pay service.

[gtt]

Can you see Sony making money on a $500-$600 at launch console? I sure can't. Especially not by cutting out backwards compatibility and probably making PSN a pay service.

you, me, kaz, and the pope all know that sony isn't going to make that mistake twice. they are going with basically stock parts this time around. and the only way ps3 BC was going to be in the ps4 is if they threw a cell and rsx in the ps4. and that just isn't happening. it's just not that big a 'cell'-ing point(I crack myself up) to justify the hit they would take.

I see them doing better than the ps3's first year, easily. and as far as psn is concerned, I imagine they will stay with the PSN plus model. where basic online gaming and access to apps is free(seriously, having to pay for netflix twice on 360 is reason number 1 I personally won't be entering the xbox ecosystem anytime soon), you just get some extras if you pay.

[motherbra1n]

I don't know how big the power gap is going to be considering it sounds like Microsoft is going off the deep end again, most likely in an effort to get Sony out of the market. But doing so would be dangerous for most third parties who couldn't afford to make games at that cost.

I have heard that Nintendo is creating a new internal development studio though. I imagine it'd be for a main franchise they have.

the rumour that says the xbox 720 is 6x as powerful as the 360 also says that the xbox 720 is 20% more powerful than the Wii U, so that would suggest that nintendo are also looking to go into the deep end again like they did with the gamecube.

Given the fact that just about every single rumour either says "slightly weaker than ps3/360" "on par with ps3/360" or "slightly more powerful than ps3/360", I don't think that's a very reliable source.

[ddddd]

I don't know how big the power gap is going to be considering it sounds like Microsoft is going off the deep end again, most likely in an effort to get Sony out of the market. But doing so would be dangerous for most third parties who couldn't afford to make games at that cost.

I have heard that Nintendo is creating a new internal development studio though. I imagine it'd be for a main franchise they have.

the rumour that says the xbox 720 is 6x as powerful as the 360 also says that the xbox 720 is 20% more powerful than the Wii U, so that would suggest that nintendo are also looking to go into the deep end again like they did with the gamecube.

Given the fact that just about every single rumour either says "slightly weaker than ps3/360" "on par with ps3/360" or "slightly more powerful than ps3/360", I don't think that's a very reliable source.

The ign 5x rumor was only talking about gpus, and those 6x 20% 5x numbers are actually a comparison between the flops that those cards can do next to a 360 turned into a fake overall power comparison.

[LegendofZelda1996]

Here are news about the Wii U.

Tyrone Rodriguez from Nicalis said that the Wii U is by far the most powerful console Nintendo has made in the history of Nintendo. And he is confident that the Wii U will be on the market competing fiercely for a duration of 5-10 years.

http://blogocio.net/los-usuarios-pueden ... -no-52324/ (Yes, I used Google Translate to tell you these news. I am currently learning Spanish and Google Translate is pretty good when it comes to Spanish.)

[KingBroly]

That's not really saying much.

[TANK]

wasnt there a quote from gearbox Randy pitchford saying there is alot more ram in wiiu than the other consoles?

[ddddd]

wasnt there a quote from gearbox Randy pitchford saying there is alot more ram in wiiu than the other consoles?

Is still rumor but its pretty much accepted that the retail console will have twice or thrice more of main ram, big publishers (like SEGA) are supposed to have the latest dev kits. What they think is "a lot more" is unknown to me, but Im expecting them to have a clear idea of what the console will have.



EDIT: Look at these beauties

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/new-proje ... enshots-3/

While we’re waiting for Slightly Mad Studios to release their weekly community screenshots, we felt the need to share some more Project CARS screenshots from modder Gionight. Quite frankly, nothing can come close to the image fidelity of Project CARS and let’s keep in mind that everything you see is from its pre-alpha stage. And contrary to other games, the game does look this good when you’re gaming. These are not shots from photomode or anything like that. Enjoy!

http://www.dsogaming.com/wp-content/upl ... t29620.jpg
http://www.dsogaming.com/wp-content/upl ... 422778.jpg
(this picture fooled me before I looked it in full size, man, I want that pc)

[Devil_Rising]

wasnt there a quote from gearbox Randy pitchford saying there is alot more ram in wiiu than the other consoles?

That is likely true. It will need it, because of the whole "stream the game to your controller" thing, and the fact that you can potentially do that while someone else is playing something else (a downloadable title, whatever) on the TV at the same time. The system is supposed to be able to do things like that. That would require some serious RAM.

[KingBroly]

So...Nu Super Mario Bros., AM I RITE?

[motherbra1n]

So...Nu Super Mario Bros., AM I RITE?

I certainly hope not.

and if you are, it better be an eshop/shop channel title. Unless it's a 15 hour game excluding extras and side stuff, no side scroller well ever be worth more than £10-£15 to me, not in this day and age.

This also leads me to believe that most of the shovelware demo's shown at E3 are going to become actual launch title games.

[KingBroly]

If it had online multiplayer and a level creator/sharer it would probably be worth it. But that'd be giving Nintendo too much credit.

But I imagine it'll just be 1 on Utablet and 3 on Wiimotes for local play. Which still makes the game hilarious if it has screen switching technology.

[ddddd]

It was way too obvious that the mario demo was going to become a real game eventually. After all the money invested on the WiiU, this is a fool-proof to get some of that back.

Also I'd actually like those "experience" demos to become a minigame compilation like wiisports, but with some more content please and packed in!

[gtt]

If it had online multiplayer and a level creator/sharer it would probably be worth it. But that'd be giving Nintendo too much credit.

But I imagine it'll just be 1 on Utablet and 3 on Wiimotes for local play. Which still makes the game hilarious if it has screen switching technology.

I don't think nintendo will ever allow something where mario could interact with things that look like dongs.

[motherbra1n]

unless there is a very good lineup of games, I think that a new super mario bros wii u will give out all the wrong messages.

[ddddd]

unless there is a very good lineup of games, I think that a new super mario bros wii u will give out all the wrong messages.

Doesnt really matter what lineup it has. As long as it has that kind of mario game, and if outsells everything else (no need for the if actually), it will send those messages anyway.

[motherbra1n]

unless there is a very good lineup of games, I think that a new super mario bros wii u will give out all the wrong messages.

Doesnt really matter what lineup it has. As long as it has that kind of mario game, and if outsells everything else (no need for the if actually), it will send those messages anyway.

not if there is a really good line up of games alongside it.

I remember in E3 2010 they showed off wii party which looked like a shovelware piece of crap, but because the rest of the announcements were so good it went by unnoticed and no one cared, and even the idiot journalists who criticized nintendo for their poor E3 at 2010 didn't even bring up wii party, because it was so overshadowed by everything else.