Why is NoA sucking SO MUCH with 3DS VC?

[Waluigi]

Seriously, it's not even funny at this point. When eShop started out, every region was on equal footing. Then, as time went on, Japan got the gold, with lots of quality 3DSWare games and a lot of VC games. And while translation took a while for the 3DS titles, VC was pretty consistent. Japan had a little more, but for the most part, it was equal footing.

Now? NA has around 28 GB games, with around 20 of those being mediocre games. Japan? 46 titles, of those another 10 I would instantly buy, plus a few games I don't know of, which may interest me.
NA has 2 GBC games, one being a colorized GB game, and the other an NES port (I think?). Japan has 7, including an updated version of a VC GB game which we won't get (Balloon Kid), a SMT RPG that released over here, and BOTH Wario Land 2 and 3. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE 1! WTF!!

At least I can credit Europe for trying. They have KI2, SML3: WL, Kirby Block Ball(which better come next week NoA. Please.), Dr. Mario, Trip World, and GBC Prince of Persia. Why is it that NoA finds it SO DIFFICULT to release some measly 4 dollar GB games? We haven't gotten a single VC game (bar Game Gear, which, btw, will probably suck for a good while as well) in 3 months. 3 FREAKING MONTHS!!

And yes, I know Europe is missing out on VVVVVV and Mutant Mudds, but there is a confirmation (almost) of VVVVVV for May 10, and Renegade Kid is working hard to release elsewhere. At least they're TRYING.

Japan is hitting it out of the park, with GB, GBC, GG, and NES releases in moderation. Europe gave a good amount of the GB goods already. 3 months without a release in North America.

I have no idea what NoA is doing, or planning, but they need to wake the f**k up, get off of their lazy asses and release some stupid rom dumps. I'm so done with this incompetent branch. How do you guys feel about it?

[CrispyGoomba]

This is some rant that you got going on. But I do agree with you. And has it really been 3 months since we have gotten a VC game? THAT'S CRAAAAAZZY!

I still cannot believe that there is no Pokemon games out yet. I can see why they didn't add Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2 on the Wii's VC because of the connectivity with the first and second gen of Pokemon games, but come'on...

Also, I know that I sound like a Pokemon fanboy right now (It's the only games that I remember from the GameBoy days atm) but I hoping for Pokemon Trading Card Game to make a release.

[Waluigi]

This is some rant that you got going on. But I do agree with you. And has it really been 3 months since we have gotten a VC game? THAT'S CRAAAAAZZY!

I still cannot believe that there is no Pokemon games out yet. I can see why they didn't add Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2 on the Wii's VC because of the connectivity with the first and second gen of Pokemon games, but come'on...

Also, I know that I sound like a Pokemon fanboy right now (It's the only games that I remember from the GameBoy days atm) but I hoping for Pokemon Trading Card Game to make a release.

Yeah, haha, I really want to play some of those games, and when they're denying my money, I get a little mad.

I've never played the TCG video game, but I always hear good things of it, so that would be cool to try out. Pokemon pinball, also would be cool. Mainline games may not come though, due to wifi issues and potential sales loss or whatever. It would be real nice if they all came out.

[Koopzilla]

I'm not sure what Japan has, but they could release some much better choices in games. I would like to see more 3rd party games too, like Castlevania, Ninja Gaiden, or Megaman (Rygar would be a dream come true for me). I really wish they would start releasing some SNES and GBA games. And some more NES 3D classics. It's also taking them an incredibly long time to update the Ambassador Program games. Doesn't seem like it should take that long just to implement save states, and change the icon on the menu.

[hakkai]

@Waluigi

No, it's freaking stupid we don't have a main line Poke'mon game. They haven't even released freaking Poke'mon Red and Blue and Yellow. I don't believe they've ever released RBY on anything before...

I also dsidn't know Nintendo had any Shin Megami Nocturne games. I didn't even know the series was that old. I'm just now getting into it...

@Koopzilla

I think Nintendo said before that they wouldn't be releasing any GBA games outside the Ambassador Program. Why, I don't know, maybe they hate money or are lying to us...

[waddledoodles]

Well, it wouldn't be Nocturne since that's a PS2 exclusive, but, yeah, it's pretty old. And awesome.

[Waluigi]

@ Koopzilla
Castlevania the Adventure was rated for Australia - http://www.computerandvideogames.com/34 ... -eu-eshop/
Which means a European release as well, eventually. Ninja Gaiden, no one said anything. And yeah, I'd love to see the GB and GBC Mega Man games get released eventually. And unless Nintendo bothers with Wii/U to 3DS VC compatibility, SNES would likely get the shaft as well, as cool as it would be. GBA will come, probably in about a year I assume, at least in Japan.

@hakkai
Mainline Pokemon games are unlikely due to the wireless nature of the series, and the fact that remakes exist and mechanics are outdated. I would still love to see them on the shop though, adding wireless shouldn't be that tough. And yes, Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible for GBC (Revelations: The Demon Slayer in NA) was released in Japan not too long ago: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/eshop/vc/qanj/index.html

[Koopzilla]

@Koopzilla

I think Nintendo said before that they wouldn't be releasing any GBA games outside the Ambassador Program. Why, I don't know, maybe they hate money or are lying to us...

Yeah they did say that. I think they will eventually anyway. Nintendo has a habit of denying stuff until they do it. But they could at least update the GBA Ambassador games, you can't even put them in sleep mode by closing the 3DS. I'd be happy if they just fixed that.

[hakkai]

@Waddledoodles

Sorry, I meant to say Tensei not Nocturne...

@Waluigi

You don't need to catch all 150 or anything, just a fun game to play. Or just rewrite the code so all pokemon are in 1 game and have the Trade Troop to evolve at a certain lv. I'm sure it would take GameFreak all of 1 week to do all that on such an old game...

@Koopzilla

My favorite game got the worst of it, Kirby. I don't even know how save in that game. I lost like 5 hours on my 1st play through, by not knowing how to save it...because a little pause save option is too hard for them...

[Olinad]

I really hope they'll release Mole Mania here in Europe... I played it once when I was a child and loved it

[Carbondog]

I have been waiting on pins and needles for a new VC game! Seriously I drive to the nearest WiFi location on lunch every Thursday to see what is available, lately its been nothing but disappointment . There are 812 original Gameboy games out there in the US even if they could only release 1/4 of that there would be more than enough games to last through the systems lifetime at 1 game release a week. I know Nintendo don't own them all but there should be no problem with them teaming up to re-release any of the games. There are at least a dozen first party games that I can think of off hand that they can release. I really don't think it would be that hard to update the Pokemon games to use wireless or even trade between RBY on one system, there are a lot of new Pokemon fans with 3DS's that would love to play the originals.

[Mirr0rR3flection]

I haven't a clue why its sucking so much. :\

I want to see more GBC (less GB) games released since the very few we have is rather disappointing. And I'd like all my Ambassador games to be updated. I refuse to continue playing them with their low lighting and poor ways to save a game.

[Ngamer01]

Well there are some reasons why there isn't a flood of VC games in America recently:
1) Licenses. If there are any licensing problems, likely the games affected will be blocked from re-release or pulled off the service if licensing problems arise some time after the re-release.

2) Legal issues. What may have flew in the past may not fly today which leads to the blocking of potential VC re-releases. EarthBound unfortunately is the top example of this problem.

3) Many 3rd parties see no market with the VC re-releases. If they don't provide the games, Nintendo has no service. People need to contact these 3rd parties and demand VC support.

We need an Operation VCfall to show there is a market for the classics. >.>;;

[OprahFTWinfrey]

Well there are some reasons why there isn't a flood of VC games in America recently:
1) Licenses. If there are any licensing problems, likely the games affected will be blocked from re-release or pulled off the service if licensing problems arise some time after the re-release.

2) Legal issues. What may have flew in the past may not fly today which leads to the blocking of potential VC re-releases. EarthBound unfortunately is the top example of this problem.

3) Many 3rd parties see no market with the VC re-releases. If they don't provide the games, Nintendo has no service. People need to contact these 3rd parties and demand VC support.

We need an Operation VCfall to show there is a market for the classics. >.>;;

Then explain why Europe has Wario Land, Kid Icarus, Dr. Mario, Kirby's Block Ball, and Prince of Persia while America doesn't. There is no explanation other than NOA's stupid policies. All of those games don't have any of those issues you listed, yet they're not over here. Why?

Maybe if they stopped with their idiotic policy of releasing only one game a week on eshop, we'd finally be getting VC games again.

[Carbondog]

I know why they usually do 1 game a week, it because if they release more than that they know people like us would only want more... I am very happy with 1 VC, 1 3DS Download, and 1 DSiWare game a week as long as at least one of them is good and at least 1 of each is released. I also want to give Nintendo my hard earned money but I sadly have not been able to do that...

[gtt]

I don't know why they don't drop 5 gb titles at a time. maybe there is behind the scenes work at unifying the VC. that would be tits.

but doesn't explain why japan gets love and we don't.

come on nintendo, bring us into the digital, crossplatform, reduced priced VC wonder land that I know you can do!

[Ngamer01]

There is no explanation other than NOA's stupid policies. All of those games don't have any of those issues you listed, yet they're not over here. Why?

Maybe if they stopped with their idiotic policy of releasing only one game a week on eshop, we'd finally be getting VC games again.

I knew I was forgetting something, but there's also:
>> Marketing. Games sometimes are delayed in America for marketing reasons. Also they got to make sure their VC re-releases don't cannibalize other releases.
>> Testing the ports. They gotta make sure the Wii/3DS can run these VC ports after all.

There could be other reasons, but don't get me wrong. I'm also annoyed at how the VC service is these days. But unfortunately, there's not alot users can do except wait or start advocating for more VC support.

[Mike_Intellivision]

I guess I have never been into playing old games on new systems, so I have not paid much attention to it (and the 3DS belongs to my son, the ambassador). [I prefer to play them on the original hardware.]

That being said, I would think NoA would be able to get first-party games out. But it may be holding them for when there is nothing else available to release since often "publishing rights" are by region.

Mike from Morgantown

[Waluigi]

So Europe is getting Game and Watch Gallery 2 for GBC this week, and will be getting Tumblepop, Sword of Hope 2, and Rayman soon. North America might get Kirby's Block Ball this week, and while I'm not complaining, Europe had this out way earlier in the year.

NoA!!!

[motherbra1n]

I think nintendo of america are sucking in a lot more ways than just 3DS VC, they are an absolute disgrace, seriously if this was nintendo of europe I would rally the troops and start a boycott.

[ZeroFlame16]

This is what I hate Licenses. It somehow always the issue with getting a game rereleased. Seriously? If you have released it before, you can do it again. I want to play Earthbound.

Also, VC has always gotten the hit whether it is the Wii or 3DS. Ever since Wiiware came out, the WIi VC has suffered. I really want to get some of the games that could be on the Wii VC since the potential games are expensive to hunt down (Earthbound) or I dont have that particular console anymore (SNES). 3DS VC has many games on the horizon, but NoA has said nothing about when they will be released. Why cant Nintendo put more/excellent games to both VCs in North America?

[Agent_Rad]

This is what I hate Licenses. It somehow always the issue with getting a game rereleased. Seriously? If you have released it before, you can do it again. I want to play Earthbound.

If you're begging for EarthBound, then there's about 500 pages of legal documentation that you still have to read through.
Don't even ask about it. Don't even THINK about it. Nintendo practically told fans to translate the GBA rom of Mother 3 because the legal tape around the series is layered several miles thick. Nintendo cannot legally release anything in the Earthbound series outside of Japan, since it makes so many references to famous American things that their lawyers are just waiting to jump all over Nintendo for, and just be thankful that those lawyers can't reach their claws into Japan or else the series may as well have been canned before it even released. As if there isn't enough bullcrap Nintendo's being jumped for already. SO just play whatever old version you had and be thankful that you were able to play it at all.

[Carbondog]

Hopefully Kirby's block ball will come out this week. As far as the last VC games the Game Gear Trio came out at the end of February so it has only been 2 months, but I do think it feels WAY longer. I love replaying a Gameboy game on my day off (since most only take a few short hours) I look forward to that little bit of classic joy every weekend. But hopefully NoA will get back on track soon!

[Waluigi]

Sorry for DP, but its been a week...

So NA is FINALLY getting it's first GB game since the middle of February (!!!) next week: Kirby's Block Ball. Wheee
I'm happy we're getting it, but this has been out in Europe since early February. Why the hell did it take NoA so freaking long to get this out? The Wii VC is in a much better position right now! The one Nintendo has all but forgotten about! (thank you SEGA...)

Europe is getting Kirby's Dream Land 2 next week, ALONG with Bird Mania 3D. Why couldn't NoA get this treatment? Why do they feel as if they need to showcase only one game per week? Europe has been fine... Europe got a new game for EVERY service this month so far, and are in a much better position. NoA got a billionth sudoku game and GOTY Pauls Shooting Adventure 2 this week. NoA needs a complete reconstruction, I think... they are SOO backwards compared to every other division. Everything they do is 1-UP'd by Japan and Europe. I bet the only reason we're even getting Block Ball is because there is no 3DSWare game. That is BULLSH*T. NoA needs to step up really badly...

And if anyone says "they don't owe us anything" there is NO excuse for being SO far behing Europe and Japan at this point. It's absolutely inexcusable.

/rant

[Carbondog]

Well said! I just really hope they learn to unleash the floodgates when most games are both digital and retail or there will REALLY be no digital sales!