Iridium077 wrote:
Aha, but if it were the United States and Canada being shafted, you'd be far more hesitant to say that in hopes that the problem might eventually be solved. I understand what you're getting at, but I think there are ways to say that without coming off as a jerk.
That having been said, while I do not support Nicalis under normal circumstances, they are hardly in the wrong in this one case. Wiiware has a terrible market, a terrible selection, and works... terribly. Do you know, for instance, that a game needs to meet certain sales quotas for the publisher to receive even a single cent of profit from the game?
It's not that I'm not sad about this - I am - but frankly, at this point and with this little effort from Nintendo to remedy the system, Nintendo doesn't deserve to have quality releases on Wiiware. If they want games like La-Mulana, they need to create a system that actually works...
...like, oh, say, the eShop. Nicalis, in case you were wondering, that was your cue.
Not really. How is it "being a jerk", to say screw ONE country, for the benefit of every other country, when it comes to getting a game? That has literally been the holdup for the better part of a year now. I don't really care if I "sound like a jerk" or not. I didn't realize the entire nation of Germany was "listening in" on this conversation. And besides, it's nothing against Germans personally, it's the fact that North America is a FAR bigger video game market than Germany anyway. It isn't even the entire EU that's the hold up, it was LITERALLY just Germany.
As for WiiWare "sucking" or "working terribly", I don't know about that either. Yes, it's had it's problems. But to tell you the truth, owning both a Wii and a PS3, there have been a LOT more WiiWare games I've actually wanted to bother checking out over the years than PSN, and that's a fact. There have been a few gems on PSN, to be sure. But WiiWare has had a LOT more quality games that I've downloaded and enjoyed, not the least of which being: Konami's "Rebirth" series (Gradius, Castlevania, Contra), Cave Story, the LostWinds games, Max and the Magic Marker, Bust a Move and Bubble Bobble Plus, Tetris, Dr. Mario, Fluidity, Toki Tori, Blast Master: Overdrive, World of Goo, the Art Style series, the Bit.Trip series, Excitebike: World Rally, FFIV: The After Years, Bomberman Blast, Adventure Island, Nyx Quest, etc. etc.
Point being, there's been plenty of quality games. The service itself may not be the best it could be, but to knock the games is a bit of a stretch. Sure, it's slowed down in the last year or so, but what do you expect, it's late in the console's life?
Linkstrikesback wrote:KingBroly wrote:You should be annoyed at Nicalis now. They didn't tell the game's developer before-hand that they were cancelling the WiiWare version in NA/EU
Because it's only just been decided. Do you own a time machine? No? Ah, well, then it's likely not many people do and therefore Nicalis probably did not know they were cancelling it...until they decided to.
Seriously though, the La Mulana guy has been giving nicalis builds that nintendo has been rejecting for almost two years now, what suddenly makes you people think the "final" version he gave them would have passed? Because he said so?
First off, you don't need to be so snide. Secondly, you don't need a time machine to know information you don't seem to be privy to. Third, Nigoro isn't a "he", it's a development team, and they DID have a complete build finished LAST YEAR. They submitted it, and it passed EVERY ratings board, except one. A German ratings board. It's never been an issue with NOA. Nicalis should have just pushed the damn thing through to North America. Europe has a history of getting things late, they could have waited again. But why keeps us in NA from getting it AT ALL, just because they wanted to wait and release it at the same time? It makes no sense, and for them to turn around and cancel the game without telling Nigoro that they are, is moronic and underhanded. Them throwing Nigoro under the bus and blaming it all on them, is also unprofessional and pretty immature.
Ever hear of NightSky? Nicalis has been "handling" the publishing of that game too. Yet it's MIA on WiiWare, it's original platform. It came out on Steam, and it's supposed to come to the eShop for 3DS, but no WiiWare version, even though it was announced in like 2009. Do you think it's THAT developer's fault too, and only a coincidence that Nicalis happens to be involved with both? I don't. In fact I know that's not the case, and that it's rather the other way around. NightSky will never see the light of day on WiiWare for the same reason that La-Mulana now never will: because Nicalis is a bad publisher, that doesn't show initiative and doesn't seem to communicate well with developers.
In fact, the blog for Nigoro was just updated recently. They sounded like the game was still coming out. Meaning they didn't yet know it was being cancelled. You'd think that the developer would be the FIRST person you told, not the media, that your game isn't being released through them. Now, Nigoro could always try and get it published through someone else, but who knows? Fact is, by the tone of their blogs over the last year or so, they've had the game finished, polished and out the door long before now, and that it's been a ridiculous ratings hold-up over in Germany of all places, along with ratings groups apparently also being terribly uncommunicative with them.
So just a word of advice: You might want to know what you're talking about, before you try to sound like you know what you're talking about.
