Nintendo and delays

[alisdaa12321]

Well when i hear the word nintendo i also think of delays. Now we all know that nintendo is known for delaying there games, but do they have a reason (a good reason) for this. Well what do you guys think. Are these delays really needed or are they just for some demand or something. Of course most of us have probably also heard this...
"A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is forever." - Shigeru Miyamoto. Now do you think your beloved Shigeru is telling the truth?

[Clowns8me]

I hate delays. I had a $50 dollar best buy gift card, just i could buy metoid prime 3.
I got that at Christmas of '06.
Little did I know, that the game would be delayed about five more times, setting the release date to Aug. 28.

[Sinister Gaze]

Apparently, Ocarina of Time, one of my favorite games ever, wouldn't have turned out the same if it hadn't been delayed. How could I possibly argue against it? Of course, I'm sure sometimes Nintendo DOES try to aim for hype by delaying, but still, I don't mind waiting for a better final product.

[MalikHalo]

I think the only reason they get delayed so much is because of the ridiculous release dates.

Brawl's original release date was launch, and no one really expected that to happen. The delays from December to February, then to March, I think, were because the game just wasn't ready.

[Bjorna]

I think we all can agree that the delays have been for the best of the game, just look at brawl, mp3, and Zelda Twilight princess. I doubt the games would have been the same if they hadn't delayed 'em.

On the other hand I think you can blame the fans too, since they are the ones asking for a release date, and nintendo would then have to say something to make the fanboys shut up, if you get what I mean.

[AlexPuma]

Well, I've been a Nintendo fan since the NES days. For me to be angry for Nintendo for delaying a game would be useless since they've been delaying games like this for decades. The anti-Nintendo trolls like to use Nintendo's delays like its a new thing, and forget how games like GTA 4 is delayed just as badly as a Nintendo game.

Also, games like Spore, Too Human, and the now mythical Duke Nukem Forever seem to make Nintendo look like they're always on time in comparison.

[pissedcheese]

the problem with gamers is that they think a release date is a release date. In reality its just a date that the game designers believe the game will be finished by, but in the process of putting the game together.. problems come up... bugs.. new ideas... and tons of other crap.. that delay the game. So if the company has enough money and they feel the the game isnt finish.. they will delay it. Why release something that is crap when just another few months could make the game great.

[alisdaa12321]

adding on to pissed cheese's comment those same gamers (the ones that whine about delays) always whine about bugs and stuff. I only think delays are bad if the game turns out bad as well.

[Reed]

I think that, in some cases, they are needed.

My personal philospohy is that I'd rather wait 2-3 more months for an excellent game than to be stuck with a buggy game for the rest of my life.

[contra]

Nintendo has a main flaw in development that other developers are doing right.
Release dates. For a long time now I have been waiting for games like brawl, and my fire has all burnt out. I dont even care anymore, and i probably wont pick it up. This is not the first time it has happened either. Batilion Wars 2, and also a few other.

When i was looking around the net for up and coming games, I notices that games like GTA4 and Metal Gear 4, Devil May Cry 4, and a fair few other games has one major thing in common, they have been/will be released on pretty much the same date world wide. Everyone got to taist what they have been wating for at the same time as each other.
But Nintendo (as you can tell i am from a pal region) keeps Months between region releases.
I picked up Mario Kart and Wii Fit first day. All the hype was still buzzing around the net, it was all fresh in my mind and i couldnt wait. But SSBB, meh, it is pertty much gone for me and i dont care anymore.

I think a world date is vital to a games popularity (or at least within a month). The hype is so fresh for everyone. Everyones build up is the same, and also, we dont get to hear about all the disapointments of the game before we can even nearly try it out (SSBB online anyone?)

Why can other developers do it but nintendo cant?

/rant

[thresholdXCI]

I'm from a PAL region too (UK) and I agree. Smash isn't out until the 27th June and since watching the hype build up, explode and then slowly come down in America my excitement for the game has really taken a hit. I'm now more hyped for Okami and Mario Kart and despite every review I've read putting them both under Brawl I'm getting them first. I never got Battalion Wars either because of it's four month delay (despite being very excited for it at one point).

Seeing as how a lot of people I know haven't been following the Brawl release in Japan or America I can't see overall sales in PAL regions taking too big a hit - just because it's a huge franchise. I'm still going to pick up Brawl because I loved Melee and Wii's Smash has received very commendable reviews pretty much everywhere. Battalion Wars though - not so lucky. I guess it's just a case of the lesser titles suffering. Some games will attract and maintain hype a lot longer than others. Generally speaking, outside of big games like Brawl, I do think delayed release dates can start to hurt sales.

Maybe delays could be the reason games in PAL regions nearly always sell less than in America...

[Luma]

I completely agree 100% with the idea of delaying a game, and Miyamoto's philosophy is a great one. What I don't agree with is setting arbitrary release dates that they have no hope in fulfilling. The media and all of us gamers are always eager to have a set date for something, but it can really kill the hype when someone comes out and says "Just another couple of months" after getting up our expectations.

If someone says "We'll release it when it's done", you can remain hyped, but just not get so into anticipating it's release. Once you get into the anticipation stage, a delay is crushing to one's enthusiasm I think. In the future, I'd like to see Nintendo be better about keeping release schedules, and not set a date until they know they can meet it. That way, if it's delayed for quality assurance, we won't know about it, and thus won't be so let down. that's just my thought about it, anyways.

[alisdaa12321]

i find nintendo's situation to be very stupid in europe. I had no idea brawl wasn't out yet . i thought it came out but now i see you still have 27 days of waiting for a game that's hype (one of the main reasons for some delays) is gone and the game is already finished. NO langauge differences. Now i'm gonna thank god i got an NTSC wii , but still nintendo has to change this. How much are they expecting out of this game Now. Nintendo, you can't live with it, you can't live without it.

[contra]

Hmm, now my topic has been combined into this one, i have to give my other side of Nintendo and delays.

I feel that delaying a game to give touch ups and to make sure that the game is of very high quality is extremely important. I don't care if a game is delayed for a year so that they can actually make the game to standards that they think are acceptable. I am more than happy to wait for a AAA game rather than get a rush job like allot of 3rd party titles.

But, I hate Nintendo when they release a game in one territory (excluding japan due to translation) and then put months between the next.

Why is there months of delay between Brawl for Pal and NTSC? Its all English.
Why was there months between most of their other titles?

[Miss Moonlight]

I know i'm not the first person to post this quote, but:

"A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever"

- Shigeru Miyamoto

[alisdaa12321]

Okay i'm gonna end this post in saying that you guys think that Nintendo truly does (at least most of the time) have delays for a reason. Anybody wants to add a closing comment or two is free to do so

[wiiamputee]

considering nintendo new approach of not announcing a game intill it is almost ready to be released, i think your topic is void. if a delay makes for a better game so be it, but people can also lose interest if it is delayed for too long.

[Mcj Metroid]

I know i'm not the first person to post this quote, but:

"A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever"

- Shigeru Miyamoto

that quote makes no sense lol..it really doesn't..


did you know that sonic 2 was the first game ever to get a worldwide release. in 1992.. christ why does this barely happen anymore

[Mako]

I would rather have delays than have a bad game released, its as simple as that.

[D3stiny_Sm4sher]

I'm shocked no one else quoted that before you.
It sums it up right there. Simple as that.