Wii U - Nintendo's Next Console

[KingBroly]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news ... s-thq.html

Metro Last Light de-confirmed

Not surprising, since THQ is already dead.

[motherbra1n]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a384034/metro-last-light-no-longer-confirmed-for-wii-u-says-thq.html

Metro Last Light de-confirmed

Not surprising, since THQ is already dead.

ooh didn't see that one coming, hardly a loss for me, metro 2033 was BOOOOOOOORING! I suspect that ninja gaiden 3 will suffer the same fate.

Is it only a matter of time before darksiders 2 (another game I don't care about) gets the metro treatment?

[KingBroly]

ooh didn't see that one coming, hardly a loss for me, metro 2033 was BOOOOOOOORING! I suspect that ninja gaiden 3 will suffer the same fate.

Is it only a matter of time before darksiders 2 (another game I don't care about) gets the metro treatment?

I hope Ninja Gaiden 3 for Wii U gets canned. That'd boost the launch lineup's metacritic rating by a few...dozen points. Seriously, Sonic 2006 is worth playing over Ninja Gaiden 3. I don't think Darksiders 2 will suffer the same fate, but THQ might go under around then, which would make the Wii U version very rare.

[huupawel]

Expectation or not about UE4 running on Wii U there is no news, Keighley already said that he is only referencing what Mike Capps said in GDC in an interview he made back then. And Epic has yet to confirm what platforms are going to support or not UE4.

About Metro I never was interested in that game.

[varoennauraa]

Shame about the Metro. I didn't like the first one too much, but I liked many aspects in it, and the second looked much better, especially when I imagined how I would play it on Wii U.

[motherbra1n]

"Shane Satterfield ‏@Dinfire
Can't understand why everyone is so shocked that the Wii U won't run Unreal Engine 4. Known for a while it's basically equal to 360/PS3."

[ddddd]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.ph ... count=1006 (its from beyond3d)

From a source who actualy understand tech.


Also, good to see Shane going back to his real self with that jab at the end, I was getting worried journalist would change for once...

[motherbra1n]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38308019&postcount=1006 (its from beyond3d)

From a source who actualy understand tech.


Also, good to see Shane going back to his real self with that jab at the end, I was getting worried journalist would change for once...

what's he done wrong here, he's saying that there's not much wrong with the Wii U being comparable to the ps3/360 in terms of power (even though I think there is).

[KingBroly]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38308019&postcount=1006 (its from beyond3d)

From a source who actualy understand tech.


Also, good to see Shane going back to his real self with that jab at the end, I was getting worried journalist would change for once...

If 720 wasn't going to run UE4 before GDC, and PS4 is weaker than 720...the 720 and Epic are going to be in real trouble next generation.

And motherbra1n, he was high on Wii U before, him taking a jab at it again is basically going back to the same ol, same ol.

[gtt]

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1401272/epic_unreal_engine_4_platforms_unconfirmed_beyond_pc.html?

Please be quiet now, GTT.

And Sony already pissed off their base by dropping PS2 BC, and will do so again with PS4 by switching architecture, thus dropping PS3 and current PSN BC. Might as well go for the gold because the sheep will probably fall in line.

if UE4 doesn't end up on ps4/720 then no big games will be put out using the unreal engine next gen. and no one is going to make PC only games for an engine that can only run on 2 gtx680s(if that's what we take 'pc only confirmed to mean, because otherwise why wouldn't the consoles get it?). UE4 will be on the next gen consoles, as that is where the games are going to be. PC is pretty much only the target platform for blizzard and valve, and that's it. and they don't use unreal.

it'd be like ford building a car that is 20 feet wide and can't go under 240MPH. Sure, that's nice and all, but it would never see actual real use.

they can say 'oh we haven't confirmed anything yet' and people can go full retard and think that somehow means that it won't be on the next gen consoles, but what it actually means is they can't confirm versions for systems which don't yet exist and ms and sony would be pissed if epic announced their systems for them.

[KingBroly]

they can say 'oh we haven't confirmed anything yet' and people can go full retard and think that somehow means that it won't be on the next gen consoles, but what it actually means is they can't confirm versions for systems which don't yet exist and ms and sony would be pissed if epic announced their systems for them.

I think you're the on that mode right now, to be honest. UE4 sounded too high end for 720/PS4 pre-GDC, and it still sounds too high end for PS4. Epic may have gotten Microsoft to play their game, but Sony can't play Epic's financial game. And Epic's not stupid enough to only support the top end system, because as we all know the most powerful system ALWAYS loses.

And as mentioned in the Gaf thread, so you all can zip it, Wii U has the capable feature-set, will get Unreal Engine 4, just not in an official capacity until Epic decides 720 isn't enough for it.

[gtt]

they can say 'oh we haven't confirmed anything yet' and people can go full retard and think that somehow means that it won't be on the next gen consoles, but what it actually means is they can't confirm versions for systems which don't yet exist and ms and sony would be pissed if epic announced their systems for them.

I think you're the on that mode right now, to be honest. UE4 sounded too high end for 720/PS4 pre-GDC, and it still sounds too high end for PS4. Epic may have gotten Microsoft to play their game, but Sony can't play Epic's financial game. And Epic's not stupid enough to only support the top end system, because as we all know the most powerful system ALWAYS loses.

And as mentioned in the Gaf thread, so you all can zip it, Wii U has the capable feature-set, will get Unreal Engine 4, just not in an official capacity until Epic decides 720 isn't enough for it.

All I am saying is that if epic wants to keep making money, UE4 will run on ps4/720 period. everyone knows it, anyone who says 'well, they haven't confirmed it' might as well be saying that ms and sony haven't confirmed that their systems will run on electricty.

[KingBroly]

No, the reason Epic hasn't confirmed it yet is because it makes their Engine look terrible.

'Hey guys, we have this awesomely EPIC scaleable engine that runs on everything...except the thing that's releasing this year cuz we don't want it to even though it has the necessary feature set to.'

Epic also wants control over the marketplace, but the problem is that Epic isn't looking beyond their own noses at the moment. The worldwide economy sucks, and is marginally getting better (i.e. not much, and not in all places). Not only that, one of the big console manufacturers is in financial straights, and you expect them to bite the bullet to make sure your engine works even though they might go under because of it? That's bad business.

Why? You'd not only lose business with Sony going under, but you're failing to recognize that the marketplace cannot support your new and shiny new device because they don't have the money to do it. Epic overshot what the proposed specs of next gen consoles were going to be from MS and Sony, and now they're paying for it. Simple as that. That's why you have public posturing to get them to up their specs, even though it's a poor move financially for the market.

[gtt]

No, the reason Epic hasn't confirmed it yet is because it makes their Engine look terrible.

'Hey guys, we have this awesomely EPIC scaleable engine that runs on everything...except the thing that's releasing this year cuz we don't want it to even though it has the necessary feature set to.'

Epic also wants control over the marketplace, but the problem is that Epic isn't looking beyond their own noses at the moment. The worldwide economy sucks, and is marginally getting better (i.e. not much, and not in all places). Not only that, one of the big console manufacturers is in financial straights, and you expect them to bite the bullet to make sure your engine works even though they might go under because of it? That's bad business.

Why? You'd not only lose business with Sony going under, but you're failing to recognize that the marketplace cannot support your new and shiny new device because they don't have the money to do it. Epic overshot what the proposed specs of next gen consoles were going to be from MS and Sony, and now they're paying for it. Simple as that. That's why you have public posturing to get them to up their specs, even though it's a poor move financially for the market.

there are several true statements there.

[motherbra1n]

No, the reason Epic hasn't confirmed it yet is because it makes their Engine look terrible.

'Hey guys, we have this awesomely EPIC scaleable engine that runs on everything...except the thing that's releasing this year cuz we don't want it to even though it has the necessary feature set to.'

Epic also wants control over the marketplace, but the problem is that Epic isn't looking beyond their own noses at the moment. The worldwide economy sucks, and is marginally getting better (i.e. not much, and not in all places). Not only that, one of the big console manufacturers is in financial straights, and you expect them to bite the bullet to make sure your engine works even though they might go under because of it? That's bad business.

Why? You'd not only lose business with Sony going under, but you're failing to recognize that the marketplace cannot support your new and shiny new device because they don't have the money to do it. Epic overshot what the proposed specs of next gen consoles were going to be from MS and Sony, and now they're paying for it. Simple as that. That's why you have public posturing to get them to up their specs, even though it's a poor move financially for the market.

I really hope that you are right but I really really don't think you are.

Here's what I think will most likely happen. The Wii U is only slightly more powerful than the ps3/360, the ps4/720 are significantly more powerful than the ps3/360 (but the gap isn't quite as big as the gap from last gen to this gen) and epic will dumb down unreal 4 so that the ps4 and 720 can support it, they will not give a damn about the wii u unless it's at least as powerful as one or both of them which we know it won't be.

I see no reason why the ps3/360 won't be significantly more powerful than their predecessors, that's like the main thing xbox and playstation consoles have going for them, being significantly more powerful than the previous gen. What's going to make someone ditch their 360 and buy an xbox 720 if it isn't significantly more powerful than their 360? Because a kinect bundled in certainly won't (as pachter likes to imagine). What else can they do for their new consoles other than power if they aren't going to bother making them significantly more powerful.

I'm 1000000000% certain that unreal 4 (however dumbed down it is from it's current state) will be on both the ps4 and xbox 720. Epic simply don't care about nintendo even though they try pretending that they do.

[FelipeGonc]

I was wondering, were did people get the idea that the Wii U's power won't be comparable to the PS4/720's? Because it seems that they haven't realized we know very little about the Wii U and nothing about Sony and Microsoft's new consoles.

[motherbra1n]

I was wondering, were did people get the idea that the Wii U's power won't be comparable to the PS4/720's? Because it seems that they haven't realized we know very little about the Wii U and nothing about Sony and Microsoft's new consoles.

I get the idea because 95% of rumours range from less powerful than ps3/360 to slightly more powerful. the ps4/720 will not be slightly more powerful than their predecessors.

Also shane satterfield says the wii u probably won't be much more powerful and shane obviously knows quite a lot that we don't.

and no he's not a "nintendo hater" he's constantly praising the wii u's software lineup.

[ddddd]

Shane is as much a hater as most journalists are, he just doesnt hate the launch lineup.

I was wondering, were did people get the idea that the Wii U's power won't be comparable to the PS4/720's? Because it seems that they haven't realized we know very little about the Wii U and nothing about Sony and Microsoft's new consoles.

The idea comes from the strategy nintendo has embraced since the launch of the ds. The rumored specs of the wiiu. And the target specs of the other next gen consoles also stomp on wiiu's

[KingBroly]

Just stating my opinion here:

If there isn't a Metroid game announced next week, for either 3DS or Wii U, there probably won't be one for a long time. And by long time, I mean Kid Icarus long time.

Even though, when you look around, there's an artificial demand for one.

[Einar1025]

Just something I heard over the grapevine, I usually don't bother with such things. But this one seems very plausible if you ask me. So here it is.

Supposedly, to ensure that the Wii U has a proper Mario title at launch. Nintendo will be releasing Super Mario 64 HD. Which as the title suggests is an HD remake of Mario 64, not simply an upscaling. Remade from the ground up for the Wii U. Sadly it will NOT be a remake of the DS version, thus it won't have the extra characters or stages and even more depressing it will have a full retail price tag of $50.


Again, just a rumor I heard. But seemed very likely, I mean who here wouldn't put something like this past Nintendo?

[led-naruto]

That would be pretty depressing... Mario 64 may be nice and all to attract the audience, but it wouldn't be enough, and I don't think it would work.

It would be a Mario game that uses full capabilities of the Wii U tablet controller... or just New Super Mario Bros. Mii, which is more expected.

[CrispyGoomba]

Where did you hear the rumor from?

Anyways, I would enjoy a remake of Super Mario 64, especially since you said it would be built from the ground up. But seriously, I just can't see them doing this. A New Super Mario Bros. title seems like it would take its spot any day (Just cause of sales and that whole stuff).

[player value]

So now the WiiU is no more a DC but a box with a N64 inside?
They'd rather create a new Mario Collection, with all the Mario titles from the N64 to the Wii, like they did in the past, and sell it full price for the next 20 years. That would be awesome.

[gtt]

Just stating my opinion here:

If there isn't a Metroid game announced next week, for either 3DS or Wii U, there probably won't be one for a long time. And by long time, I mean Kid Icarus long time.

Even though, when you look around, there's an artificial demand for one.

I unfortunately agree. I see nintendo moving to a strategy of not doing anything they don't think will sell 20M+ units over system life.

NSMB2 is the probably the first game made with that thinking. cheap to make, will sell buckets.

[KingBroly]

Just stating my opinion here:

If there isn't a Metroid game announced next week, for either 3DS or Wii U, there probably won't be one for a long time. And by long time, I mean Kid Icarus long time.

Even though, when you look around, there's an artificial demand for one.

I unfortunately agree. I see nintendo moving to a strategy of not doing anything they don't think will sell 20M+ units over system life.

NSMB2 is the probably the first game made with that thinking. cheap to make, will sell buckets.

My opinion is not from a financial point of view. If Nintendo went by your way of thinking, they'd only make Mario and Pokemon games. I mean from a creative direction point of view. I've started thinking about it since that Crossover was rumored. The way how I've thought about it, as well as reading others opinions leads me to believe that, at least 1 of those franchises (Star Fox and/or Metroid) is in dire straights at the moment.

Also, I was thinking like...14 more years until another Metroid game, if one isn't announced soon.