Not surprisingly, in-development Wii U games went unannou...

[metalpants]

I've quite enjoyed the news that have been popping up post E3 more than what was announced then. Looking forward to more .

[PEICanada7]

Like I said before, there's lots of gaming events to come over the summer. We have Comic-Con, GamesCom, PAX Prime, TGS, and Nintendo's own Wii U launch info press event coming in the next few months. Plus a Nintendo direct happens every two months now, so the next one should be in August. That's a lot of events, where a lot of Wii U games could be announced. Did Nintendo, and 3rd Party's intentionally hold back from E3? I think some games might of been intentional, but some was probably due to games not being quite ready to show yet. If the rumored Retro games was pulled at the last minute is true, than who knows what else was pulled at the last minute as well. We heard last year that Nintendo pulled a bunch of 3rd Party game demo's, because they didn't feel they were up to par.

So could that be the case here too? Maybe, who knows. But games like no DarkSiders 2, Dirt, Aliens:CM, Metro:Last Light, and Ghost Recon Online seemed oddly missing. All these games were announced last year, and GRO even had a demo last year, but it was nowhere to be seen this year. Games like AC3 had a demo, but it was with the new Pro controller, not even on the GamePad, so what gives? Why couldn't 3rd Party be ready with a proper demo at E3? Are they really saving things for other events, or could they just not be bothered making a Wii U only demo, of a multiplatform game? I hope its the first one, because the second option sound really bad for 3rd Party support, if they're thinking of the Wii U version of their games as just a quick port. Lets hope that's not the case!

[Artistic_Anarchy]

Eh, as long as something's coming down the pipe, I'll be happy. Is it wrong that I tend to see the bright side of everything? :/

No, it's not wrong. But then again, I'm sure many people were in the same position of thought like you when it came to Wii, and well...you know what happened. lol

[gtt]

Eh, as long as something's coming down the pipe, I'll be happy. Is it wrong that I tend to see the bright side of everything? :/

No, it's not wrong. But then again, I'm sure many people were in the same position of thought like you when it came to Wii, and well...you know what happened. lol

this. I've been on this ride twice before.

[ugemeistro]

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[cbbomb]

In fairness to Nintendo though, Rayman Legends and the controller changed was leaked. They were probably hoping some of that wouldn't have happened.

[The Jack Of Hearts]

This seems strange that Nintendo unveils a new console, speaks very little about it for a year, and then puts on a mixed E3 press conference.

Everything feels like they are leading up to a gigantic blow out a few months before the Wii U goes on sale. Just today COD BLOPS II was confirmed to be coming to Wii U by a Nintendo magazine.

[kernal]

i assume they showed launch games to insure that people buy those.. and most importanly, buy their third party games. if they wouldve shown off a bunch of titles in the distant future there is the chance of people saying "im going to hold off on buying these, and maybe this system, until 2013 or 2014 to buy THOSE games".

im fine with it now that i have had time to stew on it... E3 is just a hype machine.. im coming to realize this and understand why developers HATE it.

[cbbomb]

i assume they showed launch games to insure that people buy those.. and most importanly, buy their third party games. if they wouldve shown off a bunch of titles in the distant future there is the chance of people saying "im going to hold off on buying these, and maybe this system, until 2013 or 2014 to buy THOSE games".

im fine with it now that i have had time to stew on it... E3 is just a hype machine.. im coming to realize this and understand why developers HATE it.

As opposed to people saying they'll hold off from buying the console till they know it's going to be supported later on?

[delpiero]

If they did the sample of 2013 in E3 then people will complain that its a cheap tease and then in e3 2013 they'd say that Nintendo had no surprises and just showed the same games they inexplicably teased the previous year. Nintendo knew this. Patience pays up.

[Master Mo]

Is this the Shane from GT? If yes he also praised the launch lineup of the WiiU because it is said to be pretty amazing. he seems to have much inside on this matter strangely...

Also Nintendo has so much to reveal regarding WiiU (Price, releasedate, ...) that they'll defintely will have something conference like at a time when it's not this crowed with announcements!

[thorn-rock]

The strategy is pretty clear if you ask me. They release the console right before the holiday season, did what they had to do so that they have a good launch line up. Before that, they are going to have another WiiU conference, where they will be the only ones having a show and everybody will have their eyes on them, and where they will probably announce 1 or 2 more games.

Then, at E3 2013 they will need a strong line-up because Microsoft and Sony are coming with their new consoles. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear about the Retro game before E3 2013 for example.

Really unleashing the whole thing right now would have been a really bad idea. They know better.

[kernal]

i assume they showed launch games to insure that people buy those.. and most importanly, buy their third party games. if they wouldve shown off a bunch of titles in the distant future there is the chance of people saying "im going to hold off on buying these, and maybe this system, until 2013 or 2014 to buy THOSE games".

im fine with it now that i have had time to stew on it... E3 is just a hype machine.. im coming to realize this and understand why developers HATE it.

As opposed to people saying they'll hold off from buying the console till they know it's going to be supported later on?

i think having more third parties support it at launch, kind of implies it will have support later on. besides, i can think of several third party games that have been announced that werent at E3 but we still know they are coming. and i think everyone was upset that nintendo didnt show more at E3... and it would be pretty stupid to assume nintendo wont support their own console.

[cbbomb]

Is this the Shane from GT? If yes he also praised the launch lineup of the WiiU because it is said to be pretty amazing. he seems to have much inside on this matter strangely...

Also Nintendo has so much to reveal regarding WiiU (Price, releasedate, ...) that they'll defintely will have something conference like at a time when it's not this crowed with announcements!

Someone asked him on twitter if the E3 conference contradicted his statement about Wii U having a great launch lineup, and he replied that Pikmin 3 , Rayman etc qualified as a great lineup.

[MDX]

The WiiU hasn't launched yet.
They focused on what will be available for launch, which is a smart thing to do.
They focused on games that work with ONE gamepad.

Nintendo hasn't even announced the price, the online features, NFC, etc.
So, the next step for Nintendo is to show games that make use of online in a special way/
games that make use of the NFC
games that make use of two Gamepads
games that show off what the console can do graphically.

When will Nintendo show all this? Well they might use these announcements to steal thunder from
big releases like HALO4, etc. TGS for third parties like Capcom and other smaller events.

They have to maintain a steady flow of info to keep the hype and momentum going.
You might say that they have lost it, but no, the WiiU is getting a lot of attention.
And they haven't even rolled out their marketing campaign yet.

[bearded OTP]

Yeah, but you can wish in one hand and crap in the other, too. Bottom line: Nintendo tried to roll down the middle giving everyone a lil something and it sucked.

Look, you put your singing and dancing games on the show floor, but you don't waste time with them in an already jam packed press con. I'm telling you, the people who are interested in those games are NOT sitting around watching the Wiiu Facebook page for the doors to open. The people who like those games are Tweener sluts, or house moms who wish they were still tweener sluts. They are NOT waiting months for E3 thinking, "Boy I hope Reggie demos another $60 singing game!!" no, they are sitting around watching Day of Our Lives, eating Bon-Bons wishing their husbands would treat them with more respect! Know your audience Nintendo! Yes, those games have followings, but they are not sitting there at E3 waiting for any bit of news to post. This E for Everybody crap is what's killing the games industry!

[luigi_owns]

^this

[Chosenoneknuckles]

Yeah, but you can wish in one hand and crap in the other, too. Bottom line: Nintendo tried to roll down the middle giving everyone a lil something and it sucked.

Look, you put your singing and dancing games on the show floor, but you don't waste time with them in an already jam packed press con. I'm telling you, the people who are interested in those games are NOT sitting around watching the Wiiu Facebook page for the doors to open. The people who like those games are Tweener sluts, or house moms who wish they were still tweener sluts. They are NOT waiting months for E3 thinking, "Boy I hope Reggie demos another $60 singing game!!" no, they are sitting around watching Day of Our Lives, eating Bon-Bons wishing their husbands would treat them with more respect! Know your audience Nintendo! Yes, those games have followings, but they are not sitting there at E3 waiting for any bit of news to post. This E for Everybody crap is what's killing the games industry!

Agreed with everything you said but that last sentence.

[kernal]

Yeah, but you can wish in one hand and crap in the other, too. Bottom line: Nintendo tried to roll down the middle giving everyone a lil something and it sucked.

Look, you put your singing and dancing games on the show floor, but you don't waste time with them in an already jam packed press con. I'm telling you, the people who are interested in those games are NOT sitting around watching the Wiiu Facebook page for the doors to open. The people who like those games are Tweener sluts, or house moms who wish they were still tweener sluts. They are NOT waiting months for E3 thinking, "Boy I hope Reggie demos another $60 singing game!!" no, they are sitting around watching Day of Our Lives, eating Bon-Bons wishing their husbands would treat them with more respect! Know your audience Nintendo! Yes, those games have followings, but they are not sitting there at E3 waiting for any bit of news to post. This E for Everybody crap is what's killing the games industry!

huh.. there is so much wrong with this statement.. im just at a loss.. everything but the "those gamers arent watching E3" comment.. otherwise, so wrong. and when nintendo makes a point to show off several m rated games for their system, i think you can tell their focus is shifting to truly include EVERYONE.

and i think if there is anything killing the industry its the fact that the same 2 or 3 games sell ridiculous numbers every year and because of this everyone follows suit. that and the fact that gamers are becoming nose in the air snobs who are afraid to look too immature playing games that are fun instead of frustrating and exclusive. god forbid you play a game that maybe your little sister could kick your ass in. grow up gamers.. seriously, grow up and remember what its like to be a kid. once you do that, games become fun again.

[Devil_Rising]

But who cares about TGS? It is foolish of them to not announce their third party big games at E3 when all eyes we're on them. It is foolish to deliberately make people disappointed.

Ummmm..........what?

They DID announced "their third party big games at E3 when all eyes were on them". You know....Assassin's Creed? Batman? Aliens? Ninja Gaiden 3? Lego City? Scribblenauts? Zombi U? Tekken Tag Tournament 2? Mass Effect 3? Darksiders II? Rayman Legends?

Most of those were "Triple A" third party titles, almost all of which announced at launch (which is unprecedented). What else did you WANT them to announce from third parties? It was already an easily assumed fact that anything like Madden, FIFA, WWE, Call of Duty, etc., were also going to be coming to Wii U. And there's a good chance that certain games, like yes even Watch Dogs, may very well wind up on the system. So I'm not really sure what you mean by "they didn't show off third big third party games".



Unless, of course, what you meant to say, was that they didn't show off big FIRST party games. You know, Nintendo published titles. That's what most people have been bitching incessantly about ever since E3. And there's many reasons for that, honestly. For one thing, they obviously wanted the focus to be on Pikmin 3, Mario, and Nintendo Land. Also, I think if they had shown off more "Triple A" first party titles than they did, they probably felt like it would have taken away from/overshadowed the third party stuff they were showing off. And a big part of what they obviously wanted to accomplish with that E3 presentation, was to prove that they DID finally have really strong third party support, and that they were giving a lot of attention and spotlight to third parties, working with them more closely and trying to better make gamers aware of their games on a Nintendo console, etc. You know...something ELSE gamers have been bitching about for years.


I'm just saying. I absolutely wanted to see Star Fox unveiled. BUT, I also realize that they put their focus on third party stuff for a reason. A GOOD reason. And instead of most people (the same people who always criticized them for NOT focusing more on promoting third party content) actually bothering to recognize and PRAISE the fact that Nintendo finally did that? Nope. Instead people bitched about the EXACT thing they've always bitched against in the past: That Nintendo didn't steal the spotlight with their own games. You see how silly the gaming community can be?


Point is, of COURSE there's going to be a lot more first AND third party games for Wii U than just what we've heard about. Or, are some gamers actually that dumb, that they assume what's been shown is ALL we're ever going to get?


@cbbomb

Well it's true. It IS a rather great launch lineup, if you ask me. I'd say that while no, I don't personally want every single launch game that has been announced, the fact that I DO want 4-5 of the games announced is a pretty big deal. That was not the case on Gamecube. That was not the case on Wii.

[snowyday]

Cool I hope one of them is a Metal Gear Solid game and Nintendo will have a Europe USA and Japan Wii U Confrence in September like they did with the Wii

[Devil_Rising]

Eh, as long as something's coming down the pipe, I'll be happy. Is it wrong that I tend to see the bright side of everything? :/

No, it's not wrong. But then again, I'm sure many people were in the same position of thought like you when it came to Wii, and well...you know what happened. lol

Yeah. I do know what happened. Quite a lot of games "came down the pipeline" that I have really liked and enjoyed, both first and third party. While the Wii didn't have the third party support it should have, it was still decent, and either way, first or third, there was WAY more I wanted to actually play on Wii this gen than on my PS3.

Not to mention the fact that many of those games (Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, Muramasa, NSMBWii, Kirby, etc.), were some of the best games I've ever played, period.


But to each their own.