Should nintendo censor third-party excessive casual titles?

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Re: Should nintendo censor third-party excessive casual titl

Postby ddddd » 16 Jun 2012 19:28

I would actualy try to encourage third parties to either make their own exclusive core games, or at least core multiplatforms.

One way I would do it would be with "free advertising", in addition to other ways of advertising:

Say, nintendo puts a banner with ads of existent and upcoming games on wiiu on a very visible place on the OS. This banner will be always visible and change everytime users go into the OS, the catch is that nintendo will decide which games to be featured on the banner, this way nintendo can reward third party studios/pubs who put their top/quality games on wiiu, studios wouldnt have to pay anything for this marketing move.

The game can be casual or hardcore, as long nintendo deems it important or of high quality, also developer "behavior" on the console could be taken into consideration for this program (devs who port or make games very often for the console, indie devs attempting a new ip or exclusive game, whatever).

Lastly, the banner would analyse the games, demos, and trailers that the user plays or watches and update accordingly (a similar code is already used on the nintendo channel for searching/rating games), nintendo would only have to update the system adding the game data and depending on the tastes of the user he/she would see the adds of their preffered game types.
Clicking on the banner for a game will open a window where users can see details, reviews, official trailers, user gameplay videos, download a demo (if available), buy/rent/preorder it, and anything else.

Actualy I hope they do this anyway for any game too, but it could be a way to get these devs more on nintendo's side, since one of the biggest gripes of third parties is their perceived small performance of their games on nintendo consoles.

There are plenty of other alternatives, like paying devs/studios for any reason they have for skipping a wiiu sku. If the reason is technical, but still within the realm of possibility, then nintendo may as well try to find a way to help these devs to make the porting/developing possible.

It is quite unfair that nintendo would have to do things like these when ms and sony dont need to, but maybe it could be done to lay down the foundations for future generations of steady support.

Still, I think doing anything to get certain third parties on board no matter HOW will be better than doing nothing and letting only casual and nintendo games sell millions. The Miiverse, NinNet, and the recent partnerships are definitely hints of forward thinking and encouragement from nintendo.

(I realise my idea is pretty much already done on the nintendo channel, but it would be more complete, it would be always visible in the OS and with access to all the info in just one click. Also I dont know how nintendo manages third party advertising on e-shop or nintendo channel)
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Re: Should nintendo censor third-party excessive casual titl

Postby player value » 18 Jun 2012 05:01

No, Nintendo makes family systems. Sony and Microsoft should do that 1st, they say to be made for idiot, homophobic and fascist (listen to the talks on xbla) core gamers only. It would perfectly suit their audience.

And the question are: Are hard core games good/better? Do you think Wii Sports clones are better than COD? Why so or why not? Do you think a japanese compagny that belongs to a society that once was nazi is going to ban an other japanese society? Why they do so? Based on what? What is good or not? Who say so? How do they ban? When in the process? Who decide? What happens to people who worked on a ban title? Is the money lost? And do you think ban is a step towards freedom? And what next? Ban firms because they are too tall, small, jewish? And them, kill people because they don't play well or not buy label games? And after that, alcohol again? Why this and not that? where does it end? And why? Is it in the Bible or not?

Are these talks from people whose ancestors were ban from Europe, mostly on religious purposes, on other words the what's good or not at a certain time because the strongest have decided so? You never heard of the prohibition and what happens when something is ban? Do you belong to the same contry as Thomas Jefferson? You should seriously be ashamed of yourself! I can't wait to see where this tread is gonna end! These communist people vs people talks are so awesome. :lol:
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Re: Should nintendo censor third-party excessive casual titl

Postby Gakdudes » 23 Jun 2012 11:41

@player value
your english is so bad it's impossible to understand your rant. And the Japanese weren't nazi's.
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Re: Should nintendo censor third-party excessive casual titl

Postby CM30 » 07 Jul 2012 16:08

I don't think Nintendo COULD censor third party titles in the sense of stopping them getting released. They tried that back in the NES days, all that happened were the third parties setting up fake companies to sell more games under or just bypassing the whole lock out chip and licensing thing altogether. They can't legally stop this by the way, I think the courts ruled Nintendo couldn't 'force' games to be licensed.

So even if they did have some blacklist, third parties wouldn't give a damn and would just find ways to release games anyway by 'hacking' the system.
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Re: Should nintendo censor third-party excessive casual titl

Postby Zanreo » 09 Jul 2012 22:21

Nope, but they should rather encourage developers to make "hardcore" (god I hate that word) games for their consoles. A better word would be "quality" or "good" games, I guess... But though there might and will probably be lots of crappy shovelware, and it's sad to see so much crap on the shelves, I don't really care about the existance of so-and-so game, since I don't have to buy and play it... and if someone judges a console on the fact that bad games for it exists (ignoring the good ones), well, they probably aren't too smart.
I think "blocking" will just hurt the system more than it will help.
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Re: Should nintendo censor third-party excessive casual titl

Postby hyperLink » 09 Jul 2012 23:49

I would hope Nintendo would allow casual third party titles in, as long as those same companies are also making deep engrossing software. Casual games are ever the more popular nowadays and I can actually imagine many GamePad centric games, that also would use the TV, as an extension. These would also bring in the crowd used to touchscreen games on other platforms (along with introducing them to the GamePad, sticks, buttons, etc.) However first Nintendo needs quality third party support, new ips and high quality if not refined ports for Wii U and beyond. Along with it's great first party titles, the third parties must bring a lot to the table, even indie devs along for the ride.

BUT it isn't necessary, Nintendo will go it's own route regardless, but I foresee more success with the inclusion of many third party titles, even the casual.
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Re: Should nintendo censor third-party excessive casual titl

Postby Phant0mG4m3r » 07 Oct 2012 16:29

If Nintendo had high standards like that, it would bring about a better industry. The reality is that sensitive 3rd parties would rage-quit and Nintendo likes money, so this won't happen.
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Re: Should nintendo censor third-party excessive casual titl

Postby jlatimer11 » 01 Nov 2012 13:28

Shovelware exists because it is cheap to make and they don't need to sell millions to make a profit.

Activision made the first Barbie game for the Wii in 2007. It sold 400,000 copies and probably cost a few hundred thousand to make.

I'm sure they were very happy with those returns and didn't care one bit about how the game came across.
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