Facepalm wrote:LegendaryLarry wrote:But were does it stop. If someone wants to marry thier first cousin, why not let them. What about multiple spouses? etc. Is gay marraige a social issue or a perversion that some this generation has accepted and wants to make legal? What makes this generation better than every other generation? Were not also talking gay marraige. Making this legal also makes many other benefits legal that usually regarded to the traditional family made legal to them using tax payer's money. If that is true, why not let the tax payer decide if gay marraige should be made legal? Why should the government decide for us?
The reason why gay marriage is opposed is prejudice.
The reason why incestuous marriage is opposed is because it is a lifestyle choice that could lead to some very serious problems upon reproduction.
There is a reason why being gay has become much more acceptable over the centuries, and incest has become a much more immoral act since times where it was popular and actually encouraged.
RustyCage wrote:Well, I figure that if you're going to break free of some of the ignorance of society by embracing your own homosexuality, then you shouldn't need to huddle under another one of the umbrellas of ignorance to confirm it.
In other words, you don't have to get married to be united with your partner. Particularly considering that marriage in itself is typically a religious ceremony, and taken seriously mostly because of religion. And, of course, religions are notoriously homophobic. 2 + 2 = why bother with their nonsense? Just love who you love and be true to them.
Zidane wrote:The thing is, marriage really didn't start as a religious ceremony. You're father would talk to another person's father and you would be married for land, a cow, a mule, and a few chickens.
Eventually religion became part of that, but the most important thing was that the two people loved each other. They were both in love. So why try to stop an institution as old as love itself?
That said, homosexuality has been around far before the times of Greece. It's just that the Greeks were cool with it.
Zidane wrote:I agreed with you earlier. The Greeks were cool with it. Not sure they were allowed to wed or not. But that's how orgies began, right?
karkashan wrote:The more info I get about this 'issue', the more it seems many just want to be able to get married so that they can obtain the same rights two straight people who happen to love each other do when they decide to get married
Darth Vader wrote:karkashan wrote:The more info I get about this 'issue', the more it seems many just want to be able to get married so that they can get stuff in the divorce, which proves that they're just like many straight people in that regard.
hey bro, went in and fixed that for you
you can probably tell what my stance is. I don't give a hoot whether they get married or not. I also think that if people want to keep pushing this idea of marriage being a strictly religious thing, then it should stop having the legal benefits it has.
Darth Vader wrote:I do think that's far too cynical a view to take (that all marriage is founded on acquiring property or objects), and I can't see why anyone who doesn't see marriage as a religious institution wouldn't consider a homosexual union 'marriage', but whatever.
I don't think most gays would have a problem with something separate, like a civil union (so that the 'sanctity of marriage' - no such thing, IMO - could be protected), if they conveyed the same rights a same-sex marriage did. Would you have a problem with that, or do you just take issue with the concept of homosexuality as a whole?
And for me, it's not due to religious reasons, I just don't see a homosexual union as a "marriage".
As for homosexuality itself, I see it as a sin, but I know nobody's perfect so if they can live with themselves (or just don't care about it) I can live with it too.
Garfitor wrote:And for me, it's not due to religious reasons, I just don't see a homosexual union as a "marriage".As for homosexuality itself, I see it as a sin, but I know nobody's perfect so if they can live with themselves (or just don't care about it) I can live with it too.
cortjezter wrote:i find the marriage of two different kinds of peanut butter in one sandwich to be a perfectly acceptable thing.
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