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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Autosaver » 14 Jun 2012 10:32

Hey guys! I got a rumor

RETRO is currently expanding to house multiple Wii U Projects
They are working on a sequel on DKCR
They are also working on Mario Kart Wii U Assets to help Nintendo finish it faster
Since RETRO is expanded, they will also be working on a Star Fox game at the same time.
This Star Fox game plays similar to Star Fox 64.
Star Fox Wii U will have online with achievements and leaderboards.
Donkey Kong Country Returns 2 will have DLC.
Donkey Kong Country Returns 2 will features achievements and online leaderboards.
Nintendo is expecting both titles to be in final stages by 2013 to be shown at E3 and released Holiday Season.
Mario Kart is also expected to be shown at E3
Mario Kart will feature a Donkey Kong stage
RETRO is still deciding if they should pursue in a Metroid Game or an original IP.

Someone send this in 100% real rumor totally.

Oh, and Emily. Where is our Super Smash Bros 4 Gameplay and Super Mario Galaxy 3? You said Pikmin 3 was going to be shown LAST year, not this year. And what about that new F-Zero?

Clearly, Emily Rogers has lied more than she has told the truth. Her truth are pure guesswork that ANY GoNintendo member could have thought of. Successor to Wii and DS.. OH MY GOD YOU ARE THE FUTURE!

Seriously, don't listen to this girl that has lied more than she has told the truth. What does this mean now? A new name to go by on the internet after everyone knows that she is a liar just trying to get attention?
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Emily Rogers » 14 Jun 2012 10:59

Autosaver wrote:Hey guys! I got a rumor

RETRO is currently expanding to house multiple Wii U Projects
They are working on a sequel on DKCR
They are also working on Mario Kart Wii U Assets to help Nintendo finish it faster
Since RETRO is expanded, they will also be working on a Star Fox game at the same time.
This Star Fox game plays similar to Star Fox 64.
Star Fox Wii U will have online with achievements and leaderboards.
Donkey Kong Country Returns 2 will have DLC.
Donkey Kong Country Returns 2 will features achievements and online leaderboards.
Nintendo is expecting both titles to be in final stages by 2013 to be shown at E3 and released Holiday Season.
Mario Kart is also expected to be shown at E3
Mario Kart will feature a Donkey Kong stage
RETRO is still deciding if they should pursue in a Metroid Game or an original IP.

Someone send this in 100% real rumor totally.

Oh, and Emily. Where is our Super Smash Bros 4 Gameplay and Super Mario Galaxy 3? You said Pikmin 3 was going to be shown LAST year, not this year. And what about that new F-Zero?

Clearly, Emily Rogers has lied more than she has told the truth. Her truth are pure guesswork that ANY GoNintendo member could have thought of. Successor to Wii and DS.. OH MY GOD YOU ARE THE FUTURE!

Seriously, don't listen to this girl that has lied more than she has told the truth. What does this mean now? A new name to go by on the internet after everyone knows that she is a liar just trying to get attention?


Okay kid. Never posted any articles like that at all.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Devil_Rising » 14 Jun 2012 11:58

Emily Rogers wrote:
Rezbit wrote:
You say Retro is a shell of their former self yet you fail to mention they still have a good foundation of roughly 25% of the original Prime team, almost half of the team from Echoes, and almost 75% of the team that worked on Corruption.



First of all, most would say Metroid Prime 1 was Retro's best Metroid Prime game. Metroid Prime 1 received a 9.8 on IGN while IGN gave both Metroid Prime 2 and Metroid Prime 3 a 9.5.

To say that only 25% of the team that made the best Prime in the trilogy (Metroid Prime 1) and only 50% of Metroid Prime 2 team are still around doesn't build much confidence about Retro's core team right now.

The 25 percent of the MP3 team that left were the biggest contributors to the game's development.

And the fact still remains that 2 out of 3 of Donkey Kong Country Return's lead designers (one of them who was in charge of level design) are gone.

Secondly, you're focusing too much on how many left, and not enough on who left. Majority of the people with the most responsibility over the Prime games are gone. That's the sad news. A huge amount of key guys responsible for the high quality in Retro's games are gone.

Thirdly, I'm not painting a gloom and doom scenario. I'm saying that Retro's Wii U game hit a few bumps along the road because they've been busy recruiting new employees, filling up empty positions, promoting lower level employees to higher positions, and restructuring the company.

Not saying that Retro's next game will suck. I'm saying the core of Retro's talent is deteriorating. Edit: But it's also in the process of rebuilding. Nintendo has enough talent to improve any studio's game.

When Nintendo is supervising any project, most likely it will NOT suck. Example: Eternal Darkness from Silicon Knights.




First of all...........quoting IGN's review ratings doesn't exactly make what you have to say the most credible to begin with. Second of all, while many can feel that MP1 was their best work, that is entirely up to subjective opinion. MINE is that MP3 was their masterpiece, where they really perfected the Prime "formula", if you will. Meaning, I enjoyed that game the most, and though it had the most to offer, even though MP1 WAS a fantastic game.

Third, I'd still like to know exactly who you are, and how precisely it is that you "know" all this "insider info", and if you DO really have any legit source that leaks this info to you (such as the claim I read somewhere in here that you're dating a Nintendo employee), well for one thing that employee is kind of a piece of trash to be airing private company s*** to his "girlfriend", and regardless, I still want to know exactly what your qualifications are for:

A) You to have access to all this "insider info" in the gaming industry and

B) Why people should/would listen to what you have to say as if it's the 100% God's Honest Truth?



Just asking. Legit questions. I'm curious, because as I said before, there are a LOT of people on the internet like you who not only write all kinds of speculation, but also propagate ALL kinds of rumors, claiming to have "inside access" to information. Call me crazy, but I'm skeptical. So do tell. :mrgreen:
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby internet » 14 Jun 2012 12:28

retro like any western studio is a revolving door house , let's be honest for a second and realize that guys at the right time at the right place could pull out massive unheard bonuses for their paygrades , good for them for sure , but still not really possible in any other industry . To be one of those lucky top 20 is a bonus card that i would play over and over again.
and as always let's not forget about those really talented and super proud and totally non professional guys at ARMATURE STUDIO . where are they now ? oh yeah they did subcontractor job for the mgs trilogy , duology re release .

so yeah they are probably going to see people go , i don't believe that person got any info . It's funny because those profiles and tweets discovered here and there surely hit a nerve with her so time to pull the old "nintendo's fault" trick .
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Postby Autosaver » 14 Jun 2012 12:46

@Emily Rogers
Someone else posted on another forum that you did in fact make predictions about SSB4 and Mario Galaxy 3 last year. I have a feeling you're throwing this out because you were wrong.

Reggie has denied claims about Retro and has said that they're perfectly fine. There is no reason to believe and it seems like you just came here for attention. One rumor pops up from you and you're defending it like crazy!

Just seems like someone begging for attention.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 14 Jun 2012 13:22

Back after doing a little research.

@Emily RogersYou did state that Super Smash Bros is being made by an entirely different team(which, if anything, so far evidence has pointed to it being Sakurai and his team again....but this time they'll have more people), you did say that Pikmin 3 was "gauranteed" to be at e3 last year, and you also said that last years e3 would feature over 20 playable demos for the system.

Other then those and Soul Calibur 5 (which I know you've explained it was a mix up with Tekken) everything else seemed to be spot on.....but then again there was nothing surprising. (though Rockstar has yet to show off anything for the Wii U, but then again that could come at a later date) And you've already addressed the fake screenshot business. There are a couple things that I found that make me believe that you do have some good sources, but their information may or may not get skewed a little bit by the time you get it.

To anyone who wanted to see some of her predictions from last e3. http://gameolosophy.com/consoles/lets-make-a-bet/2/
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Postby Autosaver » 14 Jun 2012 13:42

Cross post from another forum, I don't know how well it is going to transfer to here.
Since it seems like people are taking my posts as something I've made up, I'm going to explain it more.

EVIDENCE #1


Emily Rogers while not writing articles about it, has spouted rumors in the past.
Nintendoga, a member who has followed her rumors before, posted this message.


And there goes all credibility.

Last year she said that Nintendo would show Super Mario Galaxy 3 and Smash Bros.4 gameplay footage along with Pikmin 3 and a new F-Zero at E3 last year. If they didn't show, then she said she would never spread any rumors ever again. Guess what

They didn't.

Reggie said that Retro is getting along fine, but their project is not ready yet. Retro is one of Nintendo's best Developers, and they wouldn't be dumb enough to let anything happen to them. I certainly believe Reggie more then some girl who's lied more times then she's told the truth in the past.

Source: http://board.sonicstadium.org/topic/130 ... ntry499543"

EVIDENCE #2


She has been wrong in the past and has blamed it on her "people" confusing Soul Calibur and Tekken. Also, look at some of her previous "truths"
"I said Pikmin 3 was moving to Project Cafe before any site or Miyamoto said it was.
I said New Super Mario Bros was coming to 3DS.
I said a lot of 360/PS3 ports were coming.
I said Ubisoft is throwing a ton of support, with at least 2 games.
I said Project Cafe was getting a big FPS. Then you saw Killer Freaks/Zombie U.
I said Project Cafe was getting no harddrive."



1. Many people saw Pikmin 3 getting moved after a long development time.
2. Oh boy, NSMB on 3DS? You must be a psychic.
3. 360/PS3 Ports on hardware extremely similar to the 360? Wow, you must be a smart.
4. Ubisoft also threw a ton of support for the Wii.
5. A FPS? Man, a console in this age getting one? WOAH
6. Some people even said the same for the harddrive comment. Nintendo has never been big on storage and to keep prices down, this was the most logical to remove,

Evidence #3 -

She has given rumors to other sites before, and has been wrong. She vowed to never do it again (like all people who post rumors) and yet she continued to.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Devil_Rising » 14 Jun 2012 14:41

Maybe gamer geeks want to believe that someone like her knows what she's talking about because "she's hawt"? :lol:


You know how some gamers get about "cute gamer chicks". They flock to them like nerds on Cheetos. :roll:






I'd still appreciate her answering about her "credentials".
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Hamr » 14 Jun 2012 15:13

Rezbit wrote:I made a post a page or two back concerning who was still at Retro since MP1. Here is a more extensive list including who is still the since working on Echoes and Corruption as well. I did this research when DKCR came out because I was interested to see just how the Retro of new compared to the Retro of old (I have a slight obsession/fascination with Retro). I simply compared the different names credited in the instruction booklets. Note that it is entirely possible since the time that DKCR was released, more people may have left. I have taken into account the departures of the two leads on DKCR, as well as the names Emily mentioned in her article.

Still working at Retro since MP1: 15 people
Producer: Ryan Harris
Art: Ryan Powell, Elben Schafers, Chris Voellmann, Chuck Crist, Luis Ramierez
Animation: Dax Pallotta, Derek Bonikowski, Stephen Zafros
Engineering: Alex Quinones, Jim Gage, Akintunde Omitowoju
Sound: Frank Bry
Operations: Al Artus, George Thomas

Still working at Retro Since MP2: 25 people
Producers: Michael Kelbaugh, Ryan Harris
Senior Development Director: Bryan Walker
Design: Tom Ivey, Russle O'Henly
Art: Chuck Crist, Luis Ramierez, Elben Schafers, Ryan Powell, Chris Voellman, Teague Schultz, Sean Horton, Quinn Smith
Engineering: Jim Gage, Alex Quinones (Note - Akintunde Omitowoju is credited with engineering work on MP1 and DKCR, but not on Echoes or Corruption)
Animation: Dax Pallotta, Vince Joly (now the current art director), Stephen Zafros, Derek Bonikowski, Carlos Mendieta
Audio: Scott Petersen, Frank Bry
Operations: Al Artus, Kelly Johnson, George Thomas

Still working at Retro Since MP3: 42 People
Producers: Michael Kelbaugh, Ryan Harris, Bryan Walker
Design: Tom Ivey, Russle O'Henly, Bill Vandervoort, Jay Fuller, Brandon Salinas, Andy Schwalenberg, Jonathan Delange
Art: Elben Schafers, Ryan Powell, Luis Ramierez, Chris Voellmann, Chuck Crist, Sean Horton, Teague Schultz, Matt Manchester, Quinn Smith
Engineering: Aaron Walker, Alex Quinones, Andy Hanson, Eric Rehmeyer, Frank Maddin, Jesse Spears, Jim Gage, Rhys Lewis, Ryan Cornelius
Animation: Vince Joly, Derek Bonikowski, Dax Pallotta, Stephen Zafros, William Bate, Raphiel Perkins, Carlos Mendieta
Audio: Scott Petersen, Frank Bry
Operations: Al Artis, Ethan Mcdonald, Faith Casper, Kelly Prinz Johnson, George Thomas


Ah, thanks a ton for that. Looking at the list and glancing at the credits over on Moby Games, it seems like most of their current senior staff have been there since Echoes, which alays a lot of my concerns considering that Echoes was a much better game than Prime was.

(Also, love your username.)

The majority of the names Emily listed departed long before DKCR shipped. And you know what? It was still a hell of a game. Maybe she knows something we don't. Maybe there is serious trouble at Retro. But making a big list of names of people long gone from the company as evidence was pretty bogus. But this simple research I presented (that anyone could have done) kind of debunks what she said about Retro being a shadow of it's former self.

I agree, it does seem a little dubious to worry about Retro's developers 'forgetting how to develop like Nintendo' when most of their current upper management and a significant portion of the employees in general have been at the studio since MP2. Is the idea that those people did not learn anything about development from the 9+ years of experience and of working as part of the studio or something? That seems a rather unfair assumption.

Incidentally, does anyone know what Pacini and company have done since leaving Retro? It is kind of hard for me to swallow the idea that their singular input (and not that of the collective staff of the studio) was what made the Prime games so much of what they were when I cannot seem to find anything notable they have done since their exodus.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Emily Rogers » 14 Jun 2012 16:14

Autosaver wrote:Cross post from another forum, I don't know how well it is going to transfer to here.
Since it seems like people are taking my posts as something I've made up, I'm going to explain it more.

EVIDENCE #1


Emily Rogers while not writing articles about it, has spouted rumors in the past.
Nintendoga, a member who has followed her rumors before, posted this message.


And there goes all credibility.

Last year she said that Nintendo would show Super Mario Galaxy 3 and Smash Bros.4 gameplay footage along with Pikmin 3 and a new F-Zero at E3 last year. If they didn't show, then she said she would never spread any rumors ever again. Guess what

They didn't.

Reggie said that Retro is getting along fine, but their project is not ready yet. Retro is one of Nintendo's best Developers, and they wouldn't be dumb enough to let anything happen to them. I certainly believe Reggie more then some girl who's lied more times then she's told the truth in the past.

Source: http://board.sonicstadium.org/topic/130 ... ntry499543"

EVIDENCE #2


She has been wrong in the past and has blamed it on her "people" confusing Soul Calibur and Tekken. Also, look at some of her previous "truths"
"I said Pikmin 3 was moving to Project Cafe before any site or Miyamoto said it was.
I said New Super Mario Bros was coming to 3DS.
I said a lot of 360/PS3 ports were coming.
I said Ubisoft is throwing a ton of support, with at least 2 games.
I said Project Cafe was getting a big FPS. Then you saw Killer Freaks/Zombie U.
I said Project Cafe was getting no harddrive."



1. Many people saw Pikmin 3 getting moved after a long development time.
2. Oh boy, NSMB on 3DS? You must be a psychic.
3. 360/PS3 Ports on hardware extremely similar to the 360? Wow, you must be a smart.
4. Ubisoft also threw a ton of support for the Wii.
5. A FPS? Man, a console in this age getting one? WOAH
6. Some people even said the same for the harddrive comment. Nintendo has never been big on storage and to keep prices down, this was the most logical to remove,

Evidence #3 -

She has given rumors to other sites before, and has been wrong. She vowed to never do it again (like all people who post rumors) and yet she continued to.
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That guy on the SonicStadium board is insane. I have no articles (and you'll find no gaming sites) that reported anything about me saying F-Zero or Super Mario Galaxy 3 or Smash Bros 4 footage. If you're going to spread lies, post a link to either the article where I said (Mario Galaxy 3, Smash Bros 4 footage, FZero) or an actual gaming site article reporting me saying this. Not just some random forum post from a guy with amnesia. All of my rumors have been reported by multiple gaming news sites, so a forum post of some random guy claiming I said stuff doesn't wash with me. Actually, if anything, I've always bashed anyone who claims a F-Zero game is coming.

As for Soul Calibur, that turned out to be Tekken for Wii U. I talk to business people who don't know the difference between their fighting franchises. I don't talk to game developers. All I knew was it was a fighter from Namco, and he assumed Soul Calibur. So in that regards, yes, a Namco fighter did end up at Wii U's launch window. My source just got mixed up on the Namco fighter.

The Pikmin 3 going to Wii U instead of Wii I was right on. This wasn't confirmed until E3 2011. I was wrong on it being playable at E3 2011. I assumed it would because the games been in development for awhile. A lot of games did get announced at E3 2011. The only part I got wrong was saying there'd be playable demos because THERE were playable demos like Ghost Recon and the tech demos. And many companies were going to have playable demos at E3 2011 but Ninendo told them not to at the last moment. If you were shown a list of games, wouldn't you assume most would be playable?

I said Smash Bros was being worked on. Never ever have I written an article saying there would be footage at E3 2011.

There were around 16-17 things being shown off at E3 2011. So I was right about there be around 20 games. When you see a bunch of game names, you don't know what is a real game and what is a tech demo. You just see names on a list. When you combine the number of retail games announced + Tech demos at E3 2011, then yes, it comes around 20 games so I wasn't really off the mark at all. My only mistake was saying they'd be playable. But honestly, when you see a game list, you assume they'd be playable.

Games that were announced or shown at E3 2011.

Darksiders 2,
Metro Last Light,
Ghost Recon Online,
Killer Freaks from Outer Space
Raving Rabbids
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Ninja Gaiden 3
Lego City Stories
Alien Colonial Marines
Dirt
Batman Arkham City
Assassins Creed
Madden
New Super Mario Bros U
Pikmin 3 (This was announced at E3 2011)
Super Smash Bros (This was announced at E3 2011)
4-5 Tech demos (Many of which are now in Nintendo Land)


How about you list the stuff I got 100 percent right? You selectively chose not to post anything else from that article that you're selectively quoting my work from. That article about me making a bet, I got most of my stuff spot on. Any critic of me can be a cherry picker.

Or are you on a vendetta/agenda to destroy me at every chance that you have
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Postby Autosaver » 14 Jun 2012 17:24

So, any explanations for that very drastic assumption of SSB being worked on a new team?

My guess is that 100% of your statements are predictions based on previous evidence. I bet that you thought SSB was going to be off to another developer because of the whole "Brawl to End them All" statement going around.

I'm sure the whole Namco fighter was another "obvious prediction" by you. Soul Calibur 5 coming along and Wii U is getting ports? Must be an easy prediction to give me credibility. Oh crap, I'm wrong! Must give some crazy explanation for it.

Again, most of your truths seem like logical conclusions. Most of your "crap" seem like logical conclusions that went wrong.

And no, I'm not trying to destroy you at every chance I have. I don't like rumors, and most of them are bullcrap. I go to places where people purposely try to troll Nintendo and guess what? The people that troll came straight to your article and pasted it. I just easily copy + pasted my response over here so everyone can spot it.

I'm sorry, but I trust Reggie more than some random person on the internet. And also, you're supposed to be prepared for a lot of backlash. You're spouting a ton of information with your own "source" that can't be confirmed. What do you think is going to happen? Especially when some statements have been wrong in the past/and/or correct?
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Devil_Rising » 14 Jun 2012 20:06

She still hasn't bothered responding to my questions about her "Credentials". I'm going to assume it's because, as I would suspect, she doesn't really have any.
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Postby OmicronTurtle » 15 Jun 2012 15:28

@Emily Rogers
Wii hardware to a console that is 10x or more powerful (Wii U)

Aww how cute, you think the Wii U is 10 times more powerful that the Wii. And I fart rainbows.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby led-naruto » 16 Jun 2012 01:50

OmicronTurtle wrote:@Emily Rogers
Wii hardware to a console that is 10x or more powerful (Wii U)

Aww how cute, you think the Wii U is 10 times more powerful that the Wii. And I fart rainbows.


No one has specifically stated the components and features of the hardware, so no one knows how powerful the system is.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby OmicronTurtle » 16 Jun 2012 04:41

led-naruto wrote:
OmicronTurtle wrote:@Emily Rogers
Wii hardware to a console that is 10x or more powerful (Wii U)

Aww how cute, you think the Wii U is 10 times more powerful that the Wii. And I fart rainbows.


No one has specifically stated the components and features of the hardware, so no one knows how powerful the system is.


We know more than enough to know it's no where near 10x more powerful.
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Postby NeroSuferoth » 16 Jun 2012 11:41

Some people here seem way way too obsessed with attacking this woman. And all because she spreads rumors... Videogames rumors at that.

Something is worgn.
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Postby Mirr0rR3flection » 16 Jun 2012 12:08

You guys have to realize she can't be right all the time. Chill out and quit attacking her seriously I'm laughing my @ss off over here, this is too much. :lol:

And what happen to @Kingbroly watching this thread like a hawk?! XD
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 16 Jun 2012 13:14

OmicronTurtle wrote:
We know more than enough to know it's no where near 10x more powerful.

Really? Sounds a little subjective to me.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Devil_Rising » 16 Jun 2012 23:25

Mirr0rR3flection wrote:You guys have to realize she can't be right all the time. Chill out and quit attacking her seriously I'm laughing my @ss off over here, this is too much. :lol:

And what happen to @Kingbroly watching this thread like a hawk?! XD



I can't speak for anyone else. But as for myself, I have not "attacked" her at all. I have merely called into question her rumors, and have asked her directly, on this thread, to please share with us what credentials she has to back up her alleged "sources" and "knowledge" of all these rumors. A simple and valid question, and one she has continued to ignore.

Quite frankly, I don't see why RMC or Cort would let her come on here and waste time propagating her allegedly "legit information" in the first place. Speculation is one thing, but for someone to go around claiming to have "inside sources" on video game information......not only have I seen it before, but it's almost always complete BS.

So call me skeptic, but I don't really trust anyone who runs around saying "HEY GUYS, LOOK AT ME, I KNOW A SECRET!!!" :roll:
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby OmicronTurtle » 17 Jun 2012 04:33

Broken_Cartridge wrote:
OmicronTurtle wrote:
We know more than enough to know it's no where near 10x more powerful.

Really? Sounds a little subjective to me.


No. We know more than enough about the Wii U hardware to understand it is not 10x more powerful than the Wii hardware. We don't have exact specs, but we have enough. It's not subjective. Subjective would be me saying Mario Galaxy was a bad game. Subjective is an opinion.
Someone saying the Wii U hardware is 10x more powerful than the Wii and another person saying it isn't is not subjective. The hardware specs is mathematics, there's no personal interpretation of the power of a system. It either is X as powerful or it isn't.
It's simply one person is wrong and one person is right. In this case, the person who says Wii U is 10x more powerful than the Wii is wrong.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 17 Jun 2012 11:26

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Broken_Cartridge wrote:
OmicronTurtle wrote:
We know more than enough to know it's no where near 10x more powerful.

Really? Sounds a little subjective to me.


No. We know more than enough about the Wii U hardware to understand it is not 10x more powerful than the Wii hardware. We don't have exact specs, but we have enough. It's not subjective. Subjective would be me saying Mario Galaxy was a bad game. Subjective is an opinion.
Someone saying the Wii U hardware is 10x more powerful than the Wii and another person saying it isn't is not subjective. The hardware specs is mathematics, there's no personal interpretation of the power of a system. It either is X as powerful or it isn't.
It's simply one person is wrong and one person is right. In this case, the person who says Wii U is 10x more powerful than the Wii is wrong.

Ok, then if it is so cut and dry say how many times more powerful than the Wii it is. Because according to what you're saying, we would know.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby OmicronTurtle » 18 Jun 2012 13:36

Broken_Cartridge wrote:Ok, then if it is so cut and dry say how many times more powerful than the Wii it is. Because according to what you're saying, we would know.


About 3-4 times more powerful. Thats purely in terms of raw computing power. It looks to be about 2 twice as powerful as a 360. Don't expect graphics to be "twice" as good as 360 though.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Broken_Cartridge » 18 Jun 2012 13:53

OmicronTurtle wrote:
Broken_Cartridge wrote:Ok, then if it is so cut and dry say how many times more powerful than the Wii it is. Because according to what you're saying, we would know.


About 3-4 times more powerful. Thats purely in terms of raw computing power. It looks to be about 2 twice as powerful as a 360. Don't expect graphics to be "twice" as good as 360 though.

So you're telling me that the 360 is only 2x more powerful then the Wii? Give me a break. Whatever you're analyzing you aren't looking at the whole picture. Which depending who you talk to will be different with how much more powerful they say it is in terms of 3x, 4x, 5x, etc. Why? Because it's subjective.
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Re: RUMOR - Retro's Wii U title facing rocky development, Ni

Postby Devil_Rising » 18 Jun 2012 17:18

OmicronTurtle wrote:
Broken_Cartridge wrote:Ok, then if it is so cut and dry say how many times more powerful than the Wii it is. Because according to what you're saying, we would know.


About 3-4 times more powerful. Thats purely in terms of raw computing power. It looks to be about 2 twice as powerful as a 360. Don't expect graphics to be "twice" as good as 360 though.



The Wii U (confirmed) more powerful than the PS3, and the graphics power of the system is said to be more impressive than the processing power, meaning that being "twice" as powerful as the 360 isn't outside the realm of possibility for later generation games.

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Postby gwalms » 19 Jun 2012 01:11

So.. I checked back here.. and for some odd reason (as in I don't think she had anything intelligent to respond with) Emily Rogers did not respond to my reply to her. Neither did she respond to someone else who quoted me on the same page. Nope, right after a person quoted me, just a few posts away from my response.. she started getting in a back in forth with someone else. I see how it is.. Its not like I logically destroyed her whole argument about Skyward Sword and Pikmin 3..
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