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October 6, 2009 by The News Team
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Video games don't need to be like movies so these comparisons are trifling. I understand that this is a means of praising the Prime trilogy, and to that extent it's welcomed, but it's possible to heap praises upon these beautiful games without referencing an entirely different artistic medium. If someone creates an excellent song, would it make sense to compare it to a book? Apples and oranges.
And video games are art. They always have been.
And video games are art. They always have been.
I hate it when news anchors have to read videogame stuff, and they have no idea nor do they even care....
They're much better games then this out their (artistically) so why pick this?
Yes, games shouldn't really be compared to linear audio/visual medians.
And what I interpret from MPT comparisons to Citizen Kane, I thought of "Metroid Prime Trilogy is woefully boring and overrated but at least is a pioneer in film editing and cliffhangers?"
I could just feel Charlie Gibson's eye-rolling when he reports on this.
And what I interpret from MPT comparisons to Citizen Kane, I thought of "Metroid Prime Trilogy is woefully boring and overrated but at least is a pioneer in film editing and cliffhangers?"
I could just feel Charlie Gibson's eye-rolling when he reports on this.
@Traviswiifan
That's the beauty of holding an opinion over a subjective matter like art. You're never wrong, so saying that someone is wrong is pointless exercise.
That's the beauty of holding an opinion over a subjective matter like art. You're never wrong, so saying that someone is wrong is pointless exercise.
AND IT TURNED OUT ROSEBUD WAS WHAT SHE NAMED HER CHILDHOOD POWER ARMOR
WHAT A TWIST
WHAT A TWIST
@TripleWordScore
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I'm gonna get this compilation in the future. Don't know when though (I can say though that I'm not waiting for a price drop since Nintendo hasn't even lowered the price on Twilight Princess, a game that's three years old come next month).
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I'm gonna get this compilation in the future. Don't know when though (I can say though that I'm not waiting for a price drop since Nintendo hasn't even lowered the price on Twilight Princess, a game that's three years old come next month).
Yeah, I think this is a bit too subjective. And their comparisons are a bit too farfetched.
Regardless, the Metroid Prime series is really amazing when it comes to making one feel like they've lost something they really wanted, by discovering about the great ruined civilizations you feel you JUST missed saving. But everyone already knows that.
Regardless, the Metroid Prime series is really amazing when it comes to making one feel like they've lost something they really wanted, by discovering about the great ruined civilizations you feel you JUST missed saving. But everyone already knows that.
The Metroid Prime series was amazing, but in no way would I say it was "Citizen Kane" good.
I for one am happy to not only see a major news outpost acknowledging the legitimacy of games as an art form, but choosing a series of games which has, in my opinion, not received nearly enough acclaim from even gamers as it should, let alone the mass market.
Metroid Prime's brilliance is often overshadowed by the sheer commercial success of franchises that were born unto the same time period, like Halo, which while being an epic in their own rights, didn't have nearly the personal feel that the Prime games did (especially the first one).
Though, one could choose the glass half-full rather than half-empty; the Metroid franchise to me is really the only franchise Nintendo has left that I believe can become more than what it has been in the past, at least commercially. As great as Prime was, I do see even brighter days (or perhaps, "darker" days, when looking at it from a story perspective) ahead for Samus.
Metroid Prime's brilliance is often overshadowed by the sheer commercial success of franchises that were born unto the same time period, like Halo, which while being an epic in their own rights, didn't have nearly the personal feel that the Prime games did (especially the first one).
Though, one could choose the glass half-full rather than half-empty; the Metroid franchise to me is really the only franchise Nintendo has left that I believe can become more than what it has been in the past, at least commercially. As great as Prime was, I do see even brighter days (or perhaps, "darker" days, when looking at it from a story perspective) ahead for Samus.
I'd have to say it definitely deserves the praise, but I agree that it is apples to oranges.
well yeah i mean it's the only three full games in one. It's like if they combine halo 1+2+3 on a disc, the solo part . Most solo fps even combined won't match one of those titles game time length . And the (true) pointer control are just remarkable .
I don't know if that amount of praise is worth but i think people should agree that it's at least one of the top 10 wii game . So everyone should have it , especially since it's also one of the best SOLO fps game ever , or at the very least the longest one!
even hardcore gamer should get it , it's only 250bucks now! i'm sure tatsunoko vs capcom or that mickey game could be good for those hardcore gamer too.
I don't know if that amount of praise is worth but i think people should agree that it's at least one of the top 10 wii game . So everyone should have it , especially since it's also one of the best SOLO fps game ever , or at the very least the longest one!
even hardcore gamer should get it , it's only 250bucks now! i'm sure tatsunoko vs capcom or that mickey game could be good for those hardcore gamer too.
@Professor Layton
Seriously? You hate that? There are a lot more important things to worry about. Besides, that's how Charles Gibson ALWAYS reports. What makes you assume he didn't know/care other then the fact hes over 50?
Seriously? You hate that? There are a lot more important things to worry about. Besides, that's how Charles Gibson ALWAYS reports. What makes you assume he didn't know/care other then the fact hes over 50?
I like what Asad said, that it's almost impossible to compare products of two different forms of art.
This is why I don't like it when people compare a book to the movie it's based on. It's an unfair way to judge the movie. First off, it's unwise and nowadays just plain stupid to expect a movie to contain every enjoyable detail you read in a book. It's one man's (the director's) vision, not the entire audience's. But more importantly I find it a little degrading for the movie to see it only as a rehash of the original story. The movie version, all movies, should be judged on what you expect from a good movie, not a good retelling. I don't think there's a film critic, as unfair as they may be, out there who's graded his latest screening based on how it differentiated from the book. So just enjoy the book, and don't see the movie if you think it's gonna ruin it for you.
Back to Metroid Prime/Citizen Kane however, this video seems to have some pretty weak comparisons, such as a dark atmosphere and the feeling of isolation. There are far bigger differences. I have seen Citizen Kane, which is undoubtedly a fantastic film, and I've played Metroid Prime (and most of the Trilogy) and I can't say that the latter did more for gaming as the former did for movies.
Citizen Kane opened a new universe for mainstream storytelling, and its cinematography could not have been more original at the time. It was the first of its kind, and almost every movie since then has been inspired by it.
Metroid Prime changed the Metroid franchise forever. But that's just one franchise. With Citizen Kane, we're talking the whole f***' form of media. Granted, Metroid Prime had a certain amount of influence on future games today with its innovative atmosphere and (back then) detailed and beautiful graphics. As well as the whole idea of having a rapidly-expanding encyclopedia and an in-depth background story obtained only through scanning.
Comparing Citizen Kane to OoT might've been a little more fair. Because, like Citizen Kane, OoT made sure that it's form of media would never be the same again.
This is why I don't like it when people compare a book to the movie it's based on. It's an unfair way to judge the movie. First off, it's unwise and nowadays just plain stupid to expect a movie to contain every enjoyable detail you read in a book. It's one man's (the director's) vision, not the entire audience's. But more importantly I find it a little degrading for the movie to see it only as a rehash of the original story. The movie version, all movies, should be judged on what you expect from a good movie, not a good retelling. I don't think there's a film critic, as unfair as they may be, out there who's graded his latest screening based on how it differentiated from the book. So just enjoy the book, and don't see the movie if you think it's gonna ruin it for you.
Back to Metroid Prime/Citizen Kane however, this video seems to have some pretty weak comparisons, such as a dark atmosphere and the feeling of isolation. There are far bigger differences. I have seen Citizen Kane, which is undoubtedly a fantastic film, and I've played Metroid Prime (and most of the Trilogy) and I can't say that the latter did more for gaming as the former did for movies.
Citizen Kane opened a new universe for mainstream storytelling, and its cinematography could not have been more original at the time. It was the first of its kind, and almost every movie since then has been inspired by it.
Metroid Prime changed the Metroid franchise forever. But that's just one franchise. With Citizen Kane, we're talking the whole f***' form of media. Granted, Metroid Prime had a certain amount of influence on future games today with its innovative atmosphere and (back then) detailed and beautiful graphics. As well as the whole idea of having a rapidly-expanding encyclopedia and an in-depth background story obtained only through scanning.
Comparing Citizen Kane to OoT might've been a little more fair. Because, like Citizen Kane, OoT made sure that it's form of media would never be the same again.
Tetris is gaming's Citizen Kane.
Think about it. never improved, never bested, always good no matter what you play it on. Can't be a movie, can't be a book. Only a game.
Tetris.
Think about it. never improved, never bested, always good no matter what you play it on. Can't be a movie, can't be a book. Only a game.
Tetris.
If it were the Citizen Kane of gaming, it'd have to be pretty boring, and most of the world (Or the gaming community) would have been left scratching their heads, wondering who said it was great and why?
The Citizen Kane of gaming? Does that include Echoes? Puke. The games are good, but not THAT good.
@gojiguy
You win this comment section, gonintendo.com, and the internet. Simply a brilliant statement.
Metroid Prime Trilogy is more like a DVD compilation of Godfather 1, 2, and 3 if 3 was actually as good as the other two.
You win this comment section, gonintendo.com, and the internet. Simply a brilliant statement.
Metroid Prime Trilogy is more like a DVD compilation of Godfather 1, 2, and 3 if 3 was actually as good as the other two.
@Tendonin
i concur
so if that takes care of citizen kane and the godfather, what about life of brian? what game could possibly stand up to that masterpiece?
nothing. because nothing is as awesome as life of brian.
i concur
so if that takes care of citizen kane and the godfather, what about life of brian? what game could possibly stand up to that masterpiece?
nothing. because nothing is as awesome as life of brian.
@gojiguy
Eh, there are puzzle games I like a lot more than Tetris (Meteos), so I wouldn't say it was never bested.
Eh, there are puzzle games I like a lot more than Tetris (Meteos), so I wouldn't say it was never bested.
@Asad
It's not about it being like a movie, it's about it DOING for video games what the movie did for movies. What a dense remark.
It's not about it being like a movie, it's about it DOING for video games what the movie did for movies. What a dense remark.
Not even close. Metroid Prime Trilogy might be really, really good...but in terms of significance and meaning, Citizen Kane is something else entirely that is leagues beyond anything that Metroid Prime Trilogy could ever hope to be.
If ANY game is comparable to Citizen Kane, in terms of what it did for it's genre (in this case, setting the standard for film/game making for decades) and managing to hold up remarkably well, it's Ocarina of Time.
If ANY game is comparable to Citizen Kane, in terms of what it did for it's genre (in this case, setting the standard for film/game making for decades) and managing to hold up remarkably well, it's Ocarina of Time.
God. Who started this "it's the Citizen Kane of blank"?
When was this damn movie made, cause I've been hearing this my entire life it seems like.
When was this damn movie made, cause I've been hearing this my entire life it seems like.
I just can't see the comparison really. You just cannot compare a box set with anything other than similar box sets, the MP Trilogy is just like the Lord Of The Rings trilogy or Godfather as someone else said.
Even though the games (all of them, even Echoes) are masterpieces (which should not be touched...), they did not achieve all the things that Citizen Kane did, that being using revolutionary (narrative and practical) techniques only that medium could do, influencing others to some degree, and being kinda smart.
In fact I've just confused myself, Metroid Prime did use gameplay to achieve some amazing ends. The exploring of believable worlds and ruins at your own pace, the scanning of areas to unlock narrative and see the environment in different ways, and the awesome immersion itself.
Problem is that Citizen Kane had a bigger impact, and you can blame the industry and gamers themselves for that.
@gojiguy
As I see it Tetris is a simple game (itself based on a real game) that has just continued to do its own thing over the years, what separates it from something like Boom Blox aside from nostalgia?
Even though the games (all of them, even Echoes) are masterpieces (which should not be touched...), they did not achieve all the things that Citizen Kane did, that being using revolutionary (narrative and practical) techniques only that medium could do, influencing others to some degree, and being kinda smart.
In fact I've just confused myself, Metroid Prime did use gameplay to achieve some amazing ends. The exploring of believable worlds and ruins at your own pace, the scanning of areas to unlock narrative and see the environment in different ways, and the awesome immersion itself.
Problem is that Citizen Kane had a bigger impact, and you can blame the industry and gamers themselves for that.
@gojiguy
As I see it Tetris is a simple game (itself based on a real game) that has just continued to do its own thing over the years, what separates it from something like Boom Blox aside from nostalgia?
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Frotastic~
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PS: But seriously though, good for the Prime series, it may not be the best comparison, but hey, atleast it's out there.!