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Sony starts off the next-gen wars with a coward's move



It's really hard for me to defend Sony when they make a move like that. I'd say the EXACT same thing if Nintendo did this to Sony. Now that Sony attacked, in my mind, Nintendo gets one defense. Make it good, Big N!

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18 Feb 2013 12:26

Faver wrote:How many Uncharted's and Resistance's did we get in this generation alone again? Please remind me.
How many Halos, Sonics, Marios in this generation alone again? Please remind me.
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18 Feb 2013 14:33

I'd forgotten what the atmosphere is like at the start of a new generation. These next two years are going to be fun...
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18 Feb 2013 14:46

MalikHalo wrote:I don't care what anyone says. I approve.


Agreed.
I cant blame them. Thats about what I said when I saw NSMBU. But angrier and with the F word.

god NSMB sucks.

Pikmin 3 cant get here soon enough.
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18 Feb 2013 14:56

godofrawr wrote:I expect the same from Microsoft later in the year.

Sony and Microsoft behave like small children, mostly because they have some much riding on this gen. For one, it's the future of the company, and the other it's the future of a division. Nintendo really has nothing to lose. They are gaming company and that's all. The majority of their top selling games are 1st party, they profit from hardware...

At one point Sony could have justified those comments, but now they are just spitting out God of War, Uncharted, and Killzone games. Their core franchises don't branch out at all... at least Mario plays a boardgame or some sports every once in a while.

To be fair Nintendo has put out more Mario games this gen than any of those franchises. 5 by my cou.t (4 if yoy dont count Super Mario 64 DS). Not to mention 2 on 3DS. And that is not counting RPGs, Mario Kart, or those god awful sports games. And personally I hate when they tack Mario onto crap just to help it sell. FortuneStreet and Mario Sports Mix were not good games. Not to mention Mario Hoops and Mario Tennis.
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18 Feb 2013 15:13

Sony and Microsoft has become like BIM from "The Apple"
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18 Feb 2013 18:22

Faver wrote:How many Uncharted's and Resistance's did we get in this generation alone again? Please remind me.

There are probably more Marios on a single console than those two franchises combined.
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18 Feb 2013 20:38

ddddd wrote:
Faver wrote:How many Uncharted's and Resistance's did we get in this generation alone again? Please remind me.

There are probably more Marios on a single console than those two franchises combined.

Big difference is that each "Mario" is it's own complete identity (with the exception of mario galaxy 1 and 2)

What I mean by this is that Mario Party, Mario Kart, New Super Mario Bros, and Mario Galaxy are all COMPLETELY different from each other. They should be considered separate entities in my opinion. Whereas each God of War, Uncharted, and Killzone game are completely identical to the other with some improvements (similar to how the relationship between galaxy 1 and 2 is)
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18 Feb 2013 21:59

@ddddd

Yeah and Mario Kart is the same thing as NSMB which is the same thing as Mario Galaxy. :roll:

Please.

A fairer question would be how many platformers have appeared this gen on Wii. The answer is three, and all three of them are exceptional, infinitely better than anything Sony has ever made. Plus NSMB is nothing like Galaxy 2, which itself is quite different from the first Galaxy.
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18 Feb 2013 22:04

MegaShock100 wrote: Galaxy 2, which itself is quite different from the first Galaxy.

When used with the rest of your point "different" isn't the right word here. "Improved" is.
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18 Feb 2013 22:06

Broken_Cartridge wrote:
ddddd wrote:
Faver wrote:How many Uncharted's and Resistance's did we get in this generation alone again? Please remind me.

There are probably more Marios on a single console than those two franchises combined.

Big difference is that each "Mario" is it's own complete identity (with the exception of mario galaxy 1 and 2)

What I mean by this is that Mario Party, Mario Kart, New Super Mario Bros, and Mario Galaxy are all COMPLETELY different from each other. They should be considered separate entities in my opinion. Whereas each God of War, Uncharted, and Killzone game are completely identical to the other with some improvements (similar to how the relationship between galaxy 1 and 2 is)

They are still the same franchise, with the same characters, same locales, same items, etc. And we all know why they are Mario games rather than original IPs. Other than the Party genre, Nintendo wont try these different concepts with AAA budget on non mario games.


@ MegaShock100

NSMBWii or Galaxy are better than "anything" Sony has ever made? For you perhaps.
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18 Feb 2013 22:22

@ddddd

"They are still the same franchise"

Franchise is not series! Mario sells and he has lots of fans, of course Nintendo will make spin-offs. But when it comes to what matters, his games are all different and therefore is not fair to say "oh look so many Mario game!". At least they are original and at the very least enjoyable.

"NSMBWii or Galaxy are better than "anything" Sony has ever made?"

Ya, I'd be hard-press to find a Sony game that I'd consider good.

That isn't to say their systems are bad. I have all the Sony platforms (early PS3 adopter and defended the PSP before it was cool), but I have them for third-party exclusives, not shallow, cinematic, artsy dreck that Sony is famous for. Well, I do admit PS3 was kind of lame. The number of worthwhile exclusive on that system, third OR first-party can be counter on one-hand. 360+Wii destroy it.
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18 Feb 2013 22:28

If the gameplay is what matters, then let Nintendo make original AAA games that are not Mario spinoffs based on those different concepts.
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18 Feb 2013 22:41

Why does it matter if it's Mario or another character? It's just a matter of aesthetics, and Mario-verse has a nice aesthetic that lends to plenty of other great games. Does it really make a difference to you if instead of a red shells, we were playing with, I dunno, generic rockets and missiles? Plus some of these games appeal to people for other reasons. I like playing Mario spinoffs because they're like a fanservice to me. I enjoy seeing lots of Mario characters and locales doing other activities.

As for new Nintendo IPs:

Wonderful 101
Pikmin
Xenoblade
Zangeki no Regenliev

and many more. And there classic series have plenty of fresh new ideas, enough to be a whole other game. I've never played anything like Galaxy or an up-to-4-player platformer like NSMB. "oh buy Sony has LBP!" Sorry, I mean *good* platformer with actual levels, not a GameMaker for consoles with limited choices and having to wade through hundreds of stupid gimmicky stages and World 1-1s to find a half-decent at best level.

And before you say those new IPs are not from Nintendo, yes they are. Doesn't matter is P* is making W101, it's being funded and published by Nintendo. In short: it's a new IP from Nintendo (a company that consist of several development houses). If you mean new IP, as in Mario Team or Zelda Team should do something new, well why? Let them do what they do best; make great Mario and Zelda games!
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18 Feb 2013 23:12

MegaShock100 wrote:I do admit PS3 was kind of lame. The number of worthwhile exclusive on that system, third OR first-party can be counter on one-hand. 360+Wii destroy it.

I'm sorry, but you lost me. While I do agree with you on the Mario situation, I do not agree with the mentality that the exclusives that the PS3 has is blown away by the 360 or Wii. That's just simply not true.

I guess in a way worthwhile is subjective, but I'm going to list off what I found worthwhile on those consoles.
(Disclaimer: If a game you like isn't listed, it's because it wasn't my cup of tea, or it wasn't exclusive)

PS3:
3D Dot Game Heroes
Demon Souls
Disgaea 4
Flower
God of War III
Heavy Rain
Infamous I & II
Metal Gear Solid 4
Ni No Kuni
Uncharted 2

360:
Blue Dragon
Gears of War 1 and 3
Halo Reach
Magna Carta II

Wii:
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Legend of Zelda TP and SS
Mario Galaxy 2
Super Smash Bros Brawl
Xenoblade


Again, it's all subjective. On my side of things I think PS3 had the best support for exclusives I've enjoyed, but I think a more fair statement would be that they all are about equal. It just depends on your view point.
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19 Feb 2013 00:49

Oops, double-post. Sorry, please delete this one because for some reason I can't.
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19 Feb 2013 00:54

@Broken_Cartridge

Ok let's see...

3D Dot Game Heroes -- Forgot about this one! I never got around to playing it, but thanks for remind me!

Demon's Souls -- Yes, very good game.

Disgaea 4 -- Repetitive grindfest with pointless complexity. Got over JRPGs a while ago after getting burned out by PS2 and DS library.

Flower -- LOL no. One of the worst games I played last year. Is such a stupid and pointless game.

GoWIII -- I'll stick to *real* action game like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta, which coincidentally are both better on 360.

Heavy Rain -- I thought we are talking about video *games* here?

Infamous -- Haven't checked these out, but they don't look all that interesting. You just fool around in an overworld, and when you are board of that, you complete some dumb missions.

MGS4 -- Agreed. Very good game, though not as good as predecessors or Peace Walker.

Ni no Kuni -- Only worth is for character art and OST, so just buy the special edition for the book and the soundtrack. The actual game is about as bland as JRPGs get.

Uncharted 2 -- Never played any of them, though apparently this one is amazing. Eh, don't see what's so great about simplistic combat, QTEs, scripted shooting and more QTEs.

I was one of the early adopters of PS3. I buy it for MGS4 and I greatly enjoyed a couple other games like Demon's Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, and I guess Yakuza 4. I appreciate for PSN Store policies which allowed for localization of Arcana Heart 3. And I'm looking forward to Gundam Extreme Vs. But otherwise, every game is available on other platforms and many of them are superior on 360.

When you list stuff like Gears, Halo and some JRPGs than is easy to say 360 doesn't compare. But you are forgetting NG2, superior version of Bayonetta, Ace Combat 6, Chromehounds, Culdcept Saga, EDF 2017, Namco Museum Virtual Arcade, Guilty Gear 2, a handful of XBLA/XNA games, as well as the ton of arcade ports include everything from Cave and G.Rev.

Wii had more than you are listing, and from my list only like 7 are published by Nintendo. It's subjective, I guess, but when it comes to comparing mechanics of these games, you can base it on objective values. I would like to see someone attempt to convince me that GoW is legitimate action game, lol.
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19 Feb 2013 01:01

@MegaShock100

Like I said, it's subjective. We could have a pissing contest all day long what we think is good and what isn't.

(Which, coincidentally, I forgot about Valkyria Chronicles)

I made a statement about your comment on exclusives "being blown away" by the other consoles, and your supporting claim is referencing 2 games that released on both consoles and ran better on the 360. I'm sorry, but that's not an exclusive. It's true that the 360 has better versions of those games (and many others). I wasn't trying to argue that. Your statement specifically mentioned exclusives, and that's what I was referring to.
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19 Feb 2013 01:31

MegaShock100 wrote:@Broken_Cartridge

Ok let's see...

3D Dot Game Heroes -- Forgot about this one! I never got around to playing it, but thanks for remind me!

Demon's Souls -- Yes, very good game.

Disgaea 4 -- Repetitive grindfest with pointless complexity. Got over JRPGs a while ago after getting burned out by PS2 and DS library.

Flower -- LOL no. One of the worst games I played last year. Is such a stupid and pointless game.

GoWIII -- I'll stick to *real* action game like Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta, which coincidentally are both better on 360.

Heavy Rain -- I thought we are talking about video *games* here?

Infamous -- Haven't checked these out, but they don't look all that interesting. You just fool around in an overworld, and when you are board of that, you complete some dumb missions.

MGS4 -- Agreed. Very good game, though not as good as predecessors or Peace Walker.

Ni no Kuni -- Only worth is for character art and OST, so just buy the special edition for the book and the soundtrack. The actual game is about as bland as JRPGs get.

Uncharted 2 -- Never played any of them, though apparently this one is amazing. Eh, don't see what's so great about simplistic combat, QTEs, scripted shooting and more QTEs.

I was one of the early adopters of PS3. I buy it for MGS4 and I greatly enjoyed a couple other games like Demon's Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, and I guess Yakuza 4. I appreciate for PSN Store policies which allowed for localization of Arcana Heart 3. And I'm looking forward to Gundam Extreme Vs. But otherwise, every game is available on other platforms and many of them are superior on 360.

When you list stuff like Gears, Halo and some JRPGs than is easy to say 360 doesn't compare. But you are forgetting NG2, superior version of Bayonetta, Ace Combat 6, Chromehounds, Culdcept Saga, EDF 2017, Namco Museum Virtual Arcade, Guilty Gear 2, a handful of XBLA/XNA games, as well as the ton of arcade ports include everything from Cave and G.Rev.

Wii had more than you are listing, and from my list only like 7 are published by Nintendo. It's subjective, I guess, but when it comes to comparing mechanics of these games, you can base it on objective values. I would like to see someone attempt to convince me that GoW is legitimate action game, lol.

Nice! Way to mention those 3rd party games that are in no way exclusive to the 360. Some of the PS3 games you are hating on you haven't even played. At least try the demos before talking about how a game is lame without even playing them. You're really stating your case.
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19 Feb 2013 05:08

BlueRangerVegeta wrote:
MalikHalo wrote:I don't care what anyone says. I approve.


Agreed.
I cant blame them. Thats about what I said when I saw NSMBU. But angrier and with the F word.

god NSMB sucks.

Pikmin 3 cant get here soon enough.



While I absolutely agree about Pikmin, I've been waiting for it for a long time, and had originally really wanted it for the Wii, I cannot agree with that attitude towards the NSMB games.

Granted, I've liked Wii and U better than 1 and 2 on the portables, but in general, 2D Mario is far preferable, to me and my gaming tastes, than well over half the crap that gets shat out on other consoles (not into 99% of FPS, 3rd person shooters, GTA clones, etc.). Not only that, but while I like NSMB Wii better, NSMB U is a fantastic game in it's own right.



@Broken_Cartridge

You're right, it is totally subjective, based on personal tastes and opinions (what isn't), but for this man, Wii had the far better exclusives at the end of the day, than the other two did, even combined.

PS3 did have little gems like 3D Dot Game Heroes, which is fantastic and I want to see more games like that. And I had REALLY REALLY been looking forward to The Last Guardian for the system, which makes me SUPER bummed if they do actually wind up shoveling it over onto PS4. Because quite frankly I have no intentions of buying a PS4. I am however (impatiently) awaiting one last PS3 "exclusive", Dragon's Crown. I'd be perfectly happy if it was on Wii U instead, but I love Vanillaware, and own a PS3, so I'll get it whenever they FINALLY release it.


But as for Wii exclusives, from my point of view:

Super Mario Galaxy (1 > 2)
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Skyward Sword
Excite Truck (Bots not so much)
Endless Ocean 2 (moreso than 1, which was decent)
Wario Land: Shake It
A Boy and His Blob
Zack & Wiki
de Blob
Arc Rise Fantasia
Mario Kart Wii
Punch Out
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Mushroom Men (flawed but charming, and fun)
Boom Blox (great puzzler)
Fragile Dreams
MadWorld
Muramasa
FFCC: The Crystal Bearers (should have been better, but still worth playing)
Rune Factory Frontier
Kirby Epic Yarn
Kirby Return to Dreamland
Little King's Story
Red Steel 2
Wii Sports (still the best of the "Wii" series, still good fun)
Monster Hunter Tri ("exclusive" in this last gen anyway)
The RE Chronicles games (before being ported much later to PS3)
No More Heroes 1 (originally exclusive) & 2
Tales of Symphonia 2
Battalion Wars II
DKCR
NSMB Wii
Sin & Punishment 2
Metroid Prime: Trilogy
Xenoblade
The Last Story


Mind you, I don't personally LOVE every single one of these games, but I like most of them, love many of them, and some are included just because I recognize that the general consensus was they were good exclusives. Given that, I would honestly say, in my personal opinion, while the Wii certainly got skimped on the multi-console port side of things, I think a solid argument can be made that it had the biggest/better lineup of purely EXCLUSIVE games for it.

And quite frankly, even considering several games not even on the list (such as Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon, or Mario Party 9, Conduit the first of which at least WAS decent, and the upcoming late entry Pandora's Tower), that's a pretty good list for any system. I honestly just hope that the Wii U provides that kind of exclusives list.
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19 Feb 2013 05:40

MegaShock100 wrote:Why does it matter if it's Mario or another character? It's just a matter of aesthetics, and Mario-verse has a nice aesthetic that lends to plenty of other great games. Does it really make a difference to you if instead of a red shells, we were playing with, I dunno, generic rockets and missiles? Plus some of these games appeal to people for other reasons. I like playing Mario spinoffs because they're like a fanservice to me. I enjoy seeing lots of Mario characters and locales doing other activities.

As for new Nintendo IPs:

Wonderful 101
Pikmin
Xenoblade
Zangeki no Regenliev

and many more. And there classic series have plenty of fresh new ideas, enough to be a whole other game. I've never played anything like Galaxy or an up-to-4-player platformer like NSMB. "oh buy Sony has LBP!" Sorry, I mean *good* platformer with actual levels, not a GameMaker for consoles with limited choices and having to wade through hundreds of stupid gimmicky stages and World 1-1s to find a half-decent at best level.

And before you say those new IPs are not from Nintendo, yes they are. Doesn't matter is P* is making W101, it's being funded and published by Nintendo. In short: it's a new IP from Nintendo (a company that consist of several development houses). If you mean new IP, as in Mario Team or Zelda Team should do something new, well why? Let them do what they do best; make great Mario and Zelda games!

If people can feel tired of Uncharted or Killzone (or the other fanboy targets like CoD, sport games, racing games, etc), they can get tired of seen Mario constantly too. The issue is the massive over reliance on the Mario appeal because Nintendo hasn't managed to make their other IPs as successful.
Also, its not a matter of aesthetics only. Mario games are set in a fantasy "modern" world. A non-Mario franchise will not be tied to that particular setting.
And much like Eternal Darkness, we have to see if Nintendo will continue to make W101 games so it can become a regular franchise or if they will be a one shot.
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19 Feb 2013 07:53

There's nothing wrong with one-shots, so long as more one-shots appear in the future.
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19 Feb 2013 11:27

Devil_Rising wrote:
BlueRangerVegeta wrote:
MalikHalo wrote:I don't care what anyone says. I approve.


Agreed.
I cant blame them. Thats about what I said when I saw NSMBU. But angrier and with the F word.

god NSMB sucks.

Pikmin 3 cant get here soon enough.



While I absolutely agree about Pikmin, I've been waiting for it for a long time, and had originally really wanted it for the Wii, I cannot agree with that attitude towards the NSMB games.

Granted, I've liked Wii and U better than 1 and 2 on the portables, but in general, 2D Mario is far preferable, to me and my gaming tastes, than well over half the crap that gets shat out on other consoles (not into 99% of FPS, 3rd person shooters, GTA clones, etc.). Not only that, but while I like NSMB Wii better, NSMB U is a fantastic game in it's own right.



@Broken_Cartridge

You're right, it is totally subjective, based on personal tastes and opinions (what isn't), but for this man, Wii had the far better exclusives at the end of the day, than the other two did, even combined.

PS3 did have little gems like 3D Dot Game Heroes, which is fantastic and I want to see more games like that. And I had REALLY REALLY been looking forward to The Last Guardian for the system, which makes me SUPER bummed if they do actually wind up shoveling it over onto PS4. Because quite frankly I have no intentions of buying a PS4. I am however (impatiently) awaiting one last PS3 "exclusive", Dragon's Crown. I'd be perfectly happy if it was on Wii U instead, but I love Vanillaware, and own a PS3, so I'll get it whenever they FINALLY release it.


But as for Wii exclusives, from my point of view:

Super Mario Galaxy (1 > 2)
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Skyward Sword
Excite Truck (Bots not so much)
Endless Ocean 2 (moreso than 1, which was decent)
Wario Land: Shake It
A Boy and His Blob
Zack & Wiki
de Blob
Arc Rise Fantasia
Mario Kart Wii
Punch Out
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Mushroom Men (flawed but charming, and fun)
Boom Blox (great puzzler)
Fragile Dreams
MadWorld
Muramasa
FFCC: The Crystal Bearers (should have been better, but still worth playing)
Rune Factory Frontier
Kirby Epic Yarn
Kirby Return to Dreamland
Little King's Story
Red Steel 2
Wii Sports (still the best of the "Wii" series, still good fun)
Monster Hunter Tri ("exclusive" in this last gen anyway)
The RE Chronicles games (before being ported much later to PS3)
No More Heroes 1 (originally exclusive) & 2
Tales of Symphonia 2
Battalion Wars II
DKCR
NSMB Wii
Sin & Punishment 2
Metroid Prime: Trilogy
Xenoblade
The Last Story


Mind you, I don't personally LOVE every single one of these games, but I like most of them, love many of them, and some are included just because I recognize that the general consensus was they were good exclusives. Given that, I would honestly say, in my personal opinion, while the Wii certainly got skimped on the multi-console port side of things, I think a solid argument can be made that it had the biggest/better lineup of purely EXCLUSIVE games for it.

And quite frankly, even considering several games not even on the list (such as Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon, or Mario Party 9, Conduit the first of which at least WAS decent, and the upcoming late entry Pandora's Tower), that's a pretty good list for any system. I honestly just hope that the Wii U provides that kind of exclusives list.

I have had fun with NSMB and NSMBW. They arent as good as SMB3 or SMW. Not by a long shot. But there is certainly fun to be had... as a $15 or $20 downloadable title. As a $50/$60 retail release, NSMBW/U is the embodiment of everything wrong with modern Nintendo. Lazy (dont argue this until you read the Iwata Asks detailing why Toads were used over Wario/Peach and why there was no online and why Yoshi is only available on a few select levels.). Uninspired. Overpriced. More concerned for nostalgia than innovation. games that spent barely half a year in development, they would make great budget titles. But as full priced retail releasea they are very bare bones a.d an insult to true AAA games like Skyward sword and Arkham City that took years to develop.
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19 Feb 2013 14:29

Devil_Rising wrote:
@Broken_Cartridge

You're right, it is totally subjective, based on personal tastes and opinions (what isn't), but for this man, Wii had the far better exclusives at the end of the day, than the other two did, even combined.

Nothing wrong with that. Everybody has different tastes.

If my statement came off as arrogant, or belittling, I apologize. (I tried to make it seem more open ended) I just get frustrated when people state their opinion as irrefutable fact.
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19 Feb 2013 21:48

Broken_Cartridge wrote:
If my statement came off as arrogant, or belittling, I apologize. (I tried to make it seem more open ended) I just get frustrated when people state their opinion as irrefutable fact.



Sadly, "Welcome to the Internet". :lol:

It's rare online to find people who DON'T present opinion as fact, even from "professional" outlets.



@BlueRangerVegeta

I'm sorry, but I can't abide by the concept that NSMB is evidence of Nintendo being "lazy". Personally, I kind of like the idea of only getting (big regular) Yoshi in certain levels. Just like only getting the gold glowing baby Yoshi in a couple undeground/ghost house levels. It makes getting him feel more special. I know you could use him in practically every level of SMW, but this isn't SMW. Yoshi was new then, and that fit that game perfectly. To me, at least, only getting Yoshi on certain levels fits NSMB just fine. And I honestly don't think NSMBU seems "lazy" at all. Like the Wii game, it had some great level designs, this iteration specifically takes the art style to the maximum with beautiful HD graphics. Some of the levels, like the painting ghost level particularly, I would even call inspired. My ONLY complaint about the entire NSMB series, is I agree that they should come up with some new music (or rather, at least, some new versions of tunes from older Mario games), instead of the same basic NSMB sounding tunes.

Outside of that ONE complaint though, the series is great, and quite frankly, you can't measure "what makes a game worth full price retail, based just on what is perceived by some as "AAA quality production". The very idea, to me, first off, that 2D games of any sort these days are not worth full price retail is absurd, as personally, I'd rather play a great 2D game over a great 3D game any day of the week. That is just my gaming taste. But furthermore, the fact of the matter is, the customer sets the market. If people like myself are absolutely willing to pay "Full price" for a 2D Mario game, because we feel the game is fun enough to warrant that, then it IS worth full retail. Hell, if Frontier would have made LostWinds retail, and combined the episodes (including a third act that actually finishes the story which they've never yet done), at least speaking for MYSELF, I'd absolutely pay full retail price for that, because the game was gorgeous. To me, what sets a game's worth, as far as price is concerned, is how much do I enjoy it? How often will I come back and play it? And to be honest, with a lot of these modern 3D games, I'll play through them once, and then rarely ever touch them again. That's just me. That's the way a lot of them seem to be designed, you play to see the story, maybe you play some more to collect/unlock everything. And then that's pretty much it. Whereas a classic styled 2D Mario game, is something I really enjoy playing, and actually feel like coming back to once in awhile, because it has something game magazines USED to refer to as "Fun Factor" and/or "RE-playability".

At least from my point of view, that's where it stands. I'd joyfully play $60 retail for a brand new 2D Metroid game (God I wish), but I'm honestly not that happy about spending the same price on many of these big "AAA Budget" 3D titles that come along, for the very reasons I stated, that I simply see more value in one over the other.
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20 Feb 2013 00:28

@Broken_Cartridge

When someone asks whether they should buy a 360 or PS3, one of the reasons I would put in favor of 360 is superior version of Bayonetta. It's not an exclusive, but it's a plus point for the 360.

Arcade games are technically not exclusive either cause they're originally arcade games, but 360 is the only reasonably way I can enjoy many of these games since arcades are basically dead outside Japan.

As for NG, well NG Sigma is a a pretty botched port job so you might as well disregard is entirely. Shoot, most people don't even consider it the same game! It's not just a question of running better, the game has a lot of different content to.

They are technically not exclusives, but they count as games that should encourage someone to buy 360 over PS3. Even if we remove NG, Bayonetta and Namco Museum and other arcade games, 360 still has a handful of more worthwhile exclusives. Of course neither compare to Wii, but anyways.

@cobaltorange

What are you even saying? I think you need to sit down for a bit. I played all those games except three, and I do plan on playing 3D Dot Heroes. As for Uncharted and Infamous, I plan on playing the first eventually and I played the demo of the latter and it wasn't interesting. I played enough games and extensively to make sound judgement based on videos and impressions.

@ddddd

You are tripping up. I said people can feel tired of GoW or Assasin Creed or (insert: billionth sequel in AAA franchise) in response to *SONY'S* petty little add. It's not the other way around, at least not in this case.

If people can feel tired or vastly different (and very good) Mario games, then they sure as hell can feel tired of pretentious artsy dreck, QTEfests and Hollywood wannabes.

"Mario games are set in a fantasy "modern" world. A non-Mario franchise will not be tied to that particular setting."

What's your point? That's still a matter of aesthetics.

@BlueRangerVegeta

"an insult to true AAA games like Arkham City that took years to develop."

lol

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