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Raiden not appearing in Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS

Just like that, the rumor has been squashed. Our good friend Ishaan Sahdev over at Siliconera spoke to Reuben Langdon via email. Turns our Mr. Langdon was actually getting Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale confused with Smash Bros.. This direct quote comes to us via Sahdev.

"Oh, the all-stars battle Royale was the one I was in. Lol! Yep. Totally got them confused." - Reuben Langdon

That's quite a big mistake to make, but at least we have it all cleared up now! Also worth noting, Langdon was actually talking about mo-cap work and not voice work.

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03 Apr 2014 14:04

Sure, sure. Mistake. That's it.

:wink:
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03 Apr 2014 14:06

Original Game - don't steal!
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03 Apr 2014 14:06

He DID NOT voice Raiden in PSASBR, RMC. NeoGaf has seen the credits, and he's not listed for Raiden.
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03 Apr 2014 14:16

He didn't voice Raiden in Playstation Allstars
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03 Apr 2014 14:16

He does the mocap. Seems like there were some confusion about him doing the voiceovers or whatnot.

His IMDB profile had him doing mocap/stunts with a number of games.
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03 Apr 2014 14:18

Well Kojima said himself that Snake wasn't going to be in it so I doubt there will be any representation from the series at all.

inb4 they can add Snake in if they work out a deal like they did with Brawl.

No they can't, the game would have to be delayed for quite a bit if they wanted to add in another character (DLC maybe?).

inb4 KOJIMA IS JUST A TROLL HE'S LYING.

No he's not. Kojima can't give a definitive answer on if Snake is in the game or not if he is actually in the game, it's against the NDA.
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03 Apr 2014 14:18

BillNye wrote:Well Kojima said himself that Snake wasn't going to be in it so I doubt there will be any representation from the series at all.

inb4 they can add Snake in if they work out a deal like they did with Brawl.

No they can't, the game would have to be delayed for quite a bit if they wanted to add in another character (DLC maybe?).

inb4 KOJIMA IS JUST A TROLL HE'S LYING.

No he's not. Kojima can't give a definitive answer on if Snake is in the game or not if he is actually in the game, it's against the NDA.

Kojima never said Snake wasn't going to be in the game
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03 Apr 2014 14:19

@Ry
Is there any indication that all stars had mocap? And hes not listed in the credits or anything else either, i could understand if it was scrapped but i think he would know about that.
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03 Apr 2014 14:23

@HylianHeroLOZ

Hmm, it could be an uncredited thing or he let slip about Sony making another one. Or Like you said, something he did that was not in the final product.
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03 Apr 2014 14:26

bpc908 wrote:
BillNye wrote:Well Kojima said himself that Snake wasn't going to be in it so I doubt there will be any representation from the series at all.

inb4 they can add Snake in if they work out a deal like they did with Brawl.

No they can't, the game would have to be delayed for quite a bit if they wanted to add in another character (DLC maybe?).

inb4 KOJIMA IS JUST A TROLL HE'S LYING.

No he's not. Kojima can't give a definitive answer on if Snake is in the game or not if he is actually in the game, it's against the NDA.

Kojima never said Snake wasn't going to be in the game


Kojima made it clear that as of right now Snake is not going to be in the game as Sakurai has not asked to have him back. He can't just use Snake whenever he feels.

On the news itself, I am not surprised this was false information, because firstly, Raiden has never appeared on a Nintendo console (thus can't be in Smash Bros as that violates one of Sakurai's rules) and second, the Metal Hear franchise has yet to even appear on the Wii U and has had one game (a remake) on the 3DS. Metal Gear doesn't deserve to be represented in the next Smash Bros.
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03 Apr 2014 14:33

Hmm. Pretty strange.

If this is leading to Snake being back I don't mind. I always thought it was fun to see him in it! Besides, I'd rather see no cuts in the roster, only additions (or suitable replacements like Lucario to Mewtwo) so honestly I'd like to see him return.

Also I know Kojima said he doesn't think Snake would be back but honestly there's no point in listening to what developers say about unannounced things most of the time. If he is back you can bet Nintendo don't want anybody even hinting at it before they're ready to tell everyone themselves.
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03 Apr 2014 14:34

Aww, no RULES OF NATURE...
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03 Apr 2014 14:35

This whole thing feels like just another attempt at grabbing straws.

Hey, he didn't mean Raiden, he actually meant Ridley!
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03 Apr 2014 14:36

Backtracking and legally covering his ass, I say. :P
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03 Apr 2014 15:09

How do you get all stars battle royale mixed with smash bros...Battle royale was TERRIBLE.
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03 Apr 2014 15:22

who is sahdev? And where is a link to this quote RMC?

Edit: I guess i missed that first part mentioning siliconera
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03 Apr 2014 15:23

The problem is he wasn't in PSASBR. He didn't voice Raiden and all the animations were taken straight from Revengeance. And he's not credited for this game either. So there is a good chance he's lying.
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03 Apr 2014 15:30

Mamma Jynx wrote:
bpc908 wrote:
BillNye wrote:Well Kojima said himself that Snake wasn't going to be in it so I doubt there will be any representation from the series at all.

inb4 they can add Snake in if they work out a deal like they did with Brawl.

No they can't, the game would have to be delayed for quite a bit if they wanted to add in another character (DLC maybe?).

inb4 KOJIMA IS JUST A TROLL HE'S LYING.

No he's not. Kojima can't give a definitive answer on if Snake is in the game or not if he is actually in the game, it's against the NDA.

Kojima never said Snake wasn't going to be in the game


Kojima made it clear that as of right now Snake is not going to be in the game as Sakurai has not asked to have him back. He can't just use Snake whenever he feels.

On the news itself, I am not surprised this was false information, because firstly, Raiden has never appeared on a Nintendo console (thus can't be in Smash Bros as that violates one of Sakurai's rules) and second, the Metal Hear franchise has yet to even appear on the Wii U and has had one game (a remake) on the 3DS. Metal Gear doesn't deserve to be represented in the next Smash Bros.


You have no idea how big a troll Kojima is. He lies all the time. He said MGSV wasn't in development and Phantom Pain was a separate game. Guess what? A lie. He lies all the time so he can surprise.

Just imagine when Snake's announced he says: "Kept you waiting huh?
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03 Apr 2014 15:43

Goes to show how Sony described the game to their employees :P
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03 Apr 2014 16:19

i really want snake to stay in smash bros. come on people.
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03 Apr 2014 16:27

Snake?.. Snake??... Snaaaaaaake!!!
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03 Apr 2014 18:18

I am going to assume that he is also confusing Raiden for Dante.

And confusing himself for Tim Phillips.
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03 Apr 2014 18:23

UberPyro64 wrote:
You have no idea how big a troll Kojima is. He lies all the time. He said MGSV wasn't in development and Phantom Pain was a separate game. Guess what? A lie. He lies all the time so he can surprise.

Just imagine when Snake's announced he says: "Kept you waiting huh?


What you guys seem to don't understand is that Kojima can not legally say whether or not Snake is in the game if he is in fact in the game. It is against the rules in the NDA that Konami has to sign in order to put Snake in the game.
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03 Apr 2014 19:41

@grcpan

Not to mention the Smash Bros. tags they put for their videos on Youtube. That was hilarious.

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